Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[C-Worl]

So your vote on Amrun, explain it a little bit because you are sheeping Spy mostly and then it appears a bit OMGUSy.

I'm voting Amrun bc she put me on a LURKER list. Not a scum list a LURKER list. LURKERS don't post 19+ times in the past 24 hours. They're called LURKERS because they don't post anything. So she's either stupid or trying to throw mud on me for something that I'm not doing. And how am I sheeping Spy?

[Juls]

Your previous post which said "Amrun this looks bad" or something like that. Also, most of your posts are jokes/content-less. So while you aren't lurking, you aren't really contributing all that much.

[C-Worl]

Your previous post which said "Amrun this looks bad" or something like that. Also, most of your posts are jokes/content-less. So while you aren't lurking, you aren't really contributing all that much.

First off, Spy had a good point but my reason for voting Amrun are reasons of my own.

Second off, A) They have content it's just not obvious. B) Posting fluff would actually hurt me worse than lurking. Lurkers get away with lurking all the time.

[Juls]

So cobbler is "lol scum" but amrun is "either stupid or trying to throw mud on [you]" so you are voting her over cobbler. Is that a correct assessment?

[Cobblerfone]

@Cobbler - This is the first time you have responded directly to me and I am the primary one making a case on you.

And what's your case? Check my ISO for my counterpoints that I've adressed to other players, and then post any evidence I haven't answered to yet.

And BTW, I simply don't see how Katsuki or I being town makes the other scum. Can't we both be town or scum? It sounds more like you're trying to set up the lynches.

[C-Worl]

So cobbler is "lol scum" but amrun is "either stupid or trying to throw mud on [you]" so you are voting her over cobbler. Is that a correct assessment?

Yep.

[Juls]

@Cobbler See my iso:
26,
27, and
32

The only accusations I see you respond to is tajo and his points are not the same as mine except maybe trying to be "too townie" and not even referencing the same evidence.

[Cobblerfone]

There's only one that's really any type of point against me is ISO 32. The other two are just variances on the same theme. And it mostly relies on Katsuki flipping town. And even then I don't see the logic behind them. If I'm town, I wouldn't know she was scum or town. If I'm scum, I'd wouldn't have taken my vote off of her.

Kanye posted an extension of this point by accusing me of asking permission and here's how I answered him:

I was typing to myself "out loud". I wasn't literally asking everyone whether I should or shouldn't. Did you not notice the part where I said I was going to take the third option?

I honestly don't know how to answer. I didn't want to just give in to peer pressure to vote Katsuki. But it looks like if the time comes I might have to do so to get a lynch at all. Requiring 10 people to vote to get a lynch is pretty intense. It makes me wish there was the option of whoever has the most votes gets lynched.

And, after thinking about it. Katuski as a hider might be really useful or completely useless. It depends on the set-up. And letting Kats live might somehow help us to find out the set-up. It depends. I have to think about it some more.

[Cobblerfone]

Actually, I still don't see how you think killing me will get info on three other people if I'm town. I think you're trying to set-up the lynches. But your points for defending Amrun seem townish.

[Katsuki]

Checking in, weekend activity will be low (today at least).

Update my list to what CNB posted.

Cobbler continually insisting

"hider useless due to godfather"

is starting to read to me as a slip.

Wish I had time to post more, leaving for picnic.

[Haylen]

@Cobbler See my iso:
26,
27, and
32

The only accusations I see you respond to is tajo and his points are not the same as mine except maybe trying to be "too townie" and not even referencing the same evidence.

Dunno about you, but recently, I've started to believe people who only answer the questions of one or two players in the game are actually scumbuddies with them.

So she's either stupid

Ad hom.

Noofball saying that Katsuki is town for being inconsistent is WIFOM. Inconsistency isn't pro-town.

It's called meta and is something that I will be looking at.

[Cobblerfone]

I thought meta was player-specific? And if kats is usually inconsistent as town, then fine. Because that wasn't the point Noofball made. Noofball's point was that inconsistency is a town tell. If I misread it, sobeit.

[C-Worl]

So she's either stupid

Ad hom.

Actually it's not. If I were actually calling her stupid my vote wouldn't be on her. It was an either or scenario. She was either stupid or scum. The fact that I'm voting for her shows that I don't think she's stupid.

[AlmasterGM]

@Sathoris - why am I scum?

Halyen is absolutely positively coasting scum right now. I can smell it. Her posts are not substantive and not related to the topics at hand.

In other news, I hate all of you and cannot believe Katsuki is going to get away with this crap, but the wagon is stalling out and we need to move.

Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, Katsuki, The Mask, populartajo

No thank you to this wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

EVERYBODY NOT ON A MAJOR WAGON NEEDS TO GET ON ONE NOW.

[Juls]

I would just like to say EVERYONE on the cobbler wagon save Katsuki I have on my town list. I cannot say the same about the Amrun wagon.

[AlmasterGM]

Okay, so discounting yourself and Katsuki, that's only two people (or 66%).

Amrun (5) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, CrimpingNoofball, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, AlmasterGM

Who on that list is town?

[Juls]

Crimp is now on the Cobbler wagon (on my town list)
Tajo was on the wagon (on my town list)
If Cobbler is scum then Kats is on my scum list.

People on the Amrun wagon that is on my townlist are Reck and Spy period.

[C-Worl]

Okay, so discounting yourself and Katsuki, that's only two people (or 66%).

Amrun (7) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, populartajo, C-Worl, AlmasterGM

Who on that list is town?

Fixed

[Juls]

Also, Mask is on my town list if not obvious from the above post.

[Juls]

kanye, evil, C-Worl, Almaster ---not on my town list.

[C-Worl]

Crimp is now on the Cobbler wagon (on my town list)
Tajo was on the wagon (on my town list)
If Cobbler is scum then Kats is on my scum list.

People on the Amrun wagon that is on my townlist are Reck and Spy period.

So basically you have 2 town reads on cobbler wagon (CNB & The Mask) and you have 3 town reads on the Amrun wagon (Spy, Reck, & tajo)?

[Juls]

What's important is I have

SCUM reads on the Amrun wagon

which I don't have on the Cobbler wagon.

For clarity this is kinda where I am at. Some of the middle could be in different order.

Town

Juls
CrimpingNoofball
SpyreX
xRECKONERx
populartajo
The Mask
Amrun
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell
Magister Ludi
AlmasterGM
Katsuki
kanyeknowsbest
Haylen
C-Worl (replacing WingDamage9001)
Sathoris
Cobblerfone

Scum

[Amrun]

C-Worl, you're not lurking, but I said "these people need to post more content." You were also lower on that list. You're posting, but not saying anything.

[Cobblerfone]

Cobbler continually insisting "hider useless due to godfather" is starting to read to me as a slip.

One post. ONE POST. The other reason you could be useless as hider is because there could be a roleblocker. But I guess you'll help us find that out. It could definitely help other roles more safely claim too I guess.

We're approaching deadline so I guess.

UNVOTE: Katsuki

VOTE: Amrun

C-Worl posting contentless stuff is noted. It was a scumtell for me in Cthulhu. But I can't remember if C-Worl acted similiarly in that or not. And why do you think I'm scum C-Worl?

[Cobblerfone]

Although, admittedly, I wasn't contentless in the same way.