Mini 1161 - Neruzian Era Mafia (Over!)

Faraday · Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 3:50 pm

you found charter's breadcrumb pretty quick. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

Vi · Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 3:50 pm

Faraday wrote:what

Faraday wrote:VIG AND SK AND MAFIA

Faraday wrote:someone look for a charter breadcrumb thing or something.

wait, the most probable set-up is 8/3/1 isn't it so we've got like fucking 3 scum left mad.

All of the above. I didn't think three-kill games were allowed in the Mini queue, and I review them. We can probably also bank on three Mafia instead of two if there are three kills - otherwise the entire Mafia can be wiped out in one Night. If nothing else, it's better to prepare for the worst.

I don't see anything in charter's posts that would suggest anything useful.

What this game needs right now is some NK psychology. Please hold...

Faraday 570 wrote:so like this was me wondering why the fuck Vi isn't dead yet.

I'm sure it has to do with my ridiculously awesome performance right now. 8)
Or my comic relief powahs.
...or that I've been spinning my wheels all game. Though toward the end of D2 that was deliberate.

Re: massclaim - With two Town power roles down, there can't be much left to claim. On the other hand there's probably not much we can do.

Cut by DarthYoshi starting what I'm sure is going to be a fun Day for me... and... geez let me post.

Faraday · Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 3:51 pm

actually i'm thinking something. it'd be weird, but make more sense. i'm not gonna say anything for a bit though.

Faraday · Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 3:52 pm

eh you're funny, but probably not funny enough to stop myself wetting myself as scum with all them scummies at the same time.

Faraday · Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 3:53 pm

and i think people would be like OMG Vi too.

oh i'm liking my theory a lot more last night now. cute, if true.

DarthYoshi · Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 3:54 pm

Faraday--if I were scum, WHY would I be so quick to point it out? I'd trust others to find it first before I'd point to it with my very first post.

Also, if you re-read Charter's ISO, it is pretty quick. He actually didn't say a ton on D2.

Vi--I actually disagree re: massclaim and town PRs. With two kill factions (presumably) plus a vig, there's gotta be 1-2 protective/RB roles in the setup methinks.

Actually...I thought about the way Charter and Scott died...

Neruz, is the kill flavor purely for entertainment purposes?

Vi · Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:00 pm

DarthYoshi wrote:Vi--I actually disagree re: massclaim and town PRs. With two kill factions (presumably) plus a vig, there's gotta be 1-2 protective/RB roles in the setup methinks.

There's a point and you're missing it.

Faraday 579 wrote:and i think people would be like OMG Vi too.

That's pretty much NOT the response I've gotten in my last few games, please and thank you. (and I played about as well in them as I have in this one)

Vi · Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:02 pm

DarthYoshi 572 wrote:BTW, FWIW, charter opened D2 with saying that he "re-read" me and found me to be less scummy. That might be as close to a breadcrumb as we're going to get.

Is that so.

This is the part where you claim.

DarthYoshi · Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:02 pm

Vi wrote:There's a point and you're missing it.

I'm pretty dumb. What point am I missing?

PEdit: Fine. I'm VT.

Faraday · Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:02 pm

OOH. hahaha this is fun.

Quilford · Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:03 pm

Are we popcorning?

Faraday · Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:04 pm

hold up, let's not spoil the fun >_>

Vi · Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:06 pm

DarthYoshi 583 wrote:
Vi wrote:There's a point and you're missing it.
I'm pretty dumb. What point am I missing?

PEdit: Fine. I'm VT.

Then... a Track on you wouldn't clear you of anything at all. There would be no point in breadcrumbing that kind of investigation.

Faraday · Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:09 pm

oh now, it lowers his odds of being scum as scum have a roleblocker and guy that commits a nightkill.. i thought you had something juicy.

DarthYoshi · Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:11 pm

@Vi: Not really. With a typical scumteam of 1 PR, 2 goons, there's a 33% chance of tracking ScumMe as the inactive goon that night. But given how the flips have gone, the chances of having an inactive scum/anti-town player at night are *relatively* slim.

Faraday · Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:12 pm

actually if we masslcaim we can probably confirm someone as town, except I don't think this is lylo. or mylo. maybe i;m being fucking conspiracytheoryist though.

Vi · Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:15 pm

Faraday wrote:oh now, it lowers his odds of being scum as scum have a roleblocker and guy that commits a nightkill.. i thought you had something juicy.

Somewhat, yes.

I'm not confident that it's a breadcrumb to begin with, but then who reads things overNight?~

@Faraday: We're at seven players. Either 4-2-1 or 5-1-1. Or knowing my luck there's something else I'm overlooking. In the former case we're actually in trouble. In the latter case we're one worst-case from Prisoner's Dilemma. Either way if we miss Today we're pretty much reliant on crosskills.

Vi · Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:17 pm

Actually, reading through isos, there's something bothering me.

Faraday. Reads. Now.

Faraday · Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:17 pm

Vi wrote:
@Faraday: We're at seven players. Either 4-2-1 or 5-1-1. Or knowing my luck there's something else I'm overlooking. In the former case we're actually in trouble. In the latter case we're one worst-case from Prisoner's Dilemma. Either way if we miss Today we're pretty much reliant on crosskills.

what if I told you I thought the set-up was 5/2 still. do I sound insane? is it likely?

Faraday · Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:21 pm

Vi wrote:Actually, reading through isos, there's something bothering me.

Faraday. Reads. Now.

hiplop is town. actually leaning towards dy town now after his vanilla claim when it looked like you were claiming role based info on him.

I guess quilford is town via the vanilla claim barring scum daytalk as I said earlier (twisted would probably know I'd try to whiteknight a vanilla claim I think hmm)

so it's probably you and one of zdenek/sloth maybe.

Vi · Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:24 pm

Faraday wrote:
Vi wrote:@Faraday: We're at seven players. Either 4-2-1 or 5-1-1. Or knowing my luck there's something else I'm overlooking. In the former case we're actually in trouble. In the latter case we're one worst-case from Prisoner's Dilemma. Either way if we miss Today we're pretty much reliant on crosskills.
what if I told you I thought the set-up was 5/2 still. do I sound insane? is it likely?

Penn and Teller would disapprove of me saying "impossible" but that's the general idea. An extra killing role on top of a full Vigilante wouldn't be allowed.

Vi · Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:25 pm

Vi wrote:
Faraday wrote:
Vi wrote:@Faraday: We're at seven players. Either 4-2-1 or 5-1-1. Or knowing my luck there's something else I'm overlooking. In the former case we're actually in trouble. In the latter case we're one worst-case from Prisoner's Dilemma. Either way if we miss Today we're pretty much reliant on crosskills.
what if I told you I thought the set-up was 5/2 still. do I sound insane? is it likely?
Penn and Teller would disapprove of me saying "impossible" but that's the general idea. An extra killing role on top of a full Vigilante wouldn't be allowed.

Wait a minute, that just brings me back to where I started.

...on second thought, maybe it's not implausible.

Okay, I'm lost. *gives you a hint coin*

Faraday · Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:26 pm

K we should probs massclaim. WCS we know we're in LOLCROSSKILLS set-up.

Faraday · Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:28 pm

quilford's iso is still very scummy.

Faraday · Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sat May 14, 2011 4:37 pm

Faraday wrote:
Vi wrote:Actually, reading through isos, there's something bothering me.

Faraday. Reads. Now.

hiplop is town. actually leaning towards dy town now after his vanilla claim when it looked like you were claiming role based info on him.

I guess quilford is town via the vanilla claim barring scum daytalk as I said earlier (twisted would probably know I'd try to whiteknight a vanilla claim I think hmm)

so it's probably you and one of zdenek/sloth maybe.

actually these reads are probably all wrong considering i'm retarded so yeah.