Mini 1170: Nowhereville Mafia '11- Over!

[CooLskins]

^but that isn't what you said. You said that you base most of your opinions on other people's. Re-reads are good though.

[SleepyKrew]

You got that right, when do we lynch...wait what?

...?

Esp, can you link a time when you actually used townhunting? All I can find is how you say scumhunting is so important.

On to NeEvil.

[The Kool]

Sorry, it would be better phrased that I take other peoples' opinions into account when formulating my own. This does not mean that I follow them.

Alright, I'll try rereading. I have other things I need to do today, such as moving to day in the game I'm modding (other forum, haven't been here long enough), but I can scrape up the time.

[Kalofer]

Ok that's twice you've said I'm scum, mind explaining why?

[SleepyKrew]

I've explained plenty.

NeEvil is also scum. Yay metas

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kalofer
I'm still a bit iffy on Esp.
Scumteam is Kalofer+NeEvil+Esp/Elf/oneofthemdamnunconfirmedplayers

[Kalofer]

Nope you haven't and are you going to make up your mind already.

[SleepyKrew]

Epic proof in a bit.
But I've already made up my mind... l2r?

[SleepyKrew]

There you go contradicting yourself again. I'm anti-RVS but I random voted anyway. I'm anti-bw but I went on one anyway.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SleepyKrew

I too think you're making a big deal out of nothing much in particular.

Kalofer, if you think my logic is scummy, what sets me apart from the rest that are using it? Just ISO Elfen.

Nothing sets you apart, it's just that NEvil had already voted for you and I like bandwagons.

Seeing as I have nothing else to do I am just going to follow espeonage
UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Kool

What's wrong with liking bandwagons? What's wrong with espeonage town hunting? And my explanation is that the kool seems like a good place to start with. I agree with espy's strategy so far and as far as I'm concerned we're not fully out of RVS yet, sure people are voting based on "reasons" but the majority of those are for a person who I am fairly certain is newbtown.

You got that right, when do we lynch...wait what?

Okay, so this was a joke, still a scummy joke :p

All this coupled with my metaread.

[The Kool]

That is a situation where posts have been quoted and it makes sense to me, but since I have agreed to reread the thread, I won't vote until I have confirmed that for myself.

[SleepyKrew]

Kool, are you saying that you agree with me but want to ascertain yourself?

[Kalofer]

Nope that still doesn't say why I'm scum, IMO you were making a big deal out of nothing and you still are and then I voted for you mainly because you were the most aggressive person when criticising elf, and because a 2 man wagon means more than a 1 man wagon, big deal it's not as if I lynched you or anything. I also like espy's theory and actions so far and I really did not have anything better to do.

[The Kool]

I am saying that given the evidence you provided, I believe you, but I want to look and see if there is any other evidence that you maybe 'overlooked', which would quite certainly say something. There probably isn't, but I want to check to make sure.

[Elfen]

OMFG WTF?!?!?! I was gone for 2 hours and all this, ugh. I will read on it later

@SK here are all teh games i have played on the other forum
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthrea ... astlevania
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthrea ... post262501 This one, but I had to get out of it, They really go alot off of meta style >_>
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthrea ... ia-Round-2 Ok this, please don't read... this is how i got my meta as scummy and pulling an Elfen.. Ok i was hyper and wired on sugar it was summer can you blame me?
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthrea ... all-Island This is where i got modkilled, it was themed, and i copied and pasted directly from my PM and i didn't paraphrase it.

[Quinnster]

Oh, shit, elfen. NEVER quote the mod's pm. That is grounds for a modkill.

[Quinnster]

I also want to say that now that I've thought it over, I can see how townhunting CAN be useful, but not at this point. The ratio of town to mafia makes it an impossibly large process of elimination. I think it's much better to start with scumhunting.

[cloudocean]

@quinnster

I disagree. Town reads are important at any time.

@kalofer

Can you explain to me how contradictions "aren't a big deal?"

@elfin

I clarified my reasoning - which you never refuted. Seems like you're strawmanning.

[Quinnster]

Oh I have my own town reads right now. I think Sleepykrew is town, based on the fact that he's been on the same train of thought I have. What I don't agree with is townhunting as an alternative to scumhunting. We need to be doing both, all the time.

[Kalofer]

Contradictions are a big deal, but that particular one was excusable because elf is IMO newbtown. Unless, of course, you want to go ahead with the no mercy policy and lynch him for that which would be fine since he did contradict himself and that is scummy but I believe that if you are to lynch him he'll flip town.

[The Kool]

Most definitely, both simultaneously, you have no excuse to ever not be actively looking for scum.

[SleepyKrew]

@cloud
Actually, you never gave your reasoning. I've been covering your ass saying that it was the same as everyone else. Please, enlighten us.
@Kool
Okay, just making sure I didn't misunderstand your post.
@Elf
Tyvm, I'll get straight to work.
@Hunting
Honestly, idc as long as we lynch scum. And we've got several prime candidates.

[cloudocean]

Well, like I said, it wasw mostly the band wagoning I hated it about it >_> thats when I hate it >_> cause it goes out of hand and there is really no suspicion, but here is different. But I have been forcing my self to change my ways D: even though a part of me hates it

Assuming 3 scums (as is normal for mini's these days) they can get the 3/7 it takes to lynch, that means you need 4 townies to "get out of control" in order to lynch. But, you also have to get a bandwagon on guy to l-1 without people noticing, which is a very very difficult. I just don't see (and have never seen) how an rvs wagon could go to a lynch or get out of control.

Well one, I did use Random.org ._.

Why do you have to justify your vote? And why are RVS bandwagons bad. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that the reason for RVS? I know this most likely belongs in theory discussion but I want to know why you are anti-rvs. Tip: "I'm anti-rvs" is not a valid reason .

Well, like i said, I am trying to to change my ways, which I know are bad ways, but some things don't die easly >_> and the reason I justified my answer was cause of this

Elfen, if you're anti-bw from RVS, then why'd you vote the same as my RVS? Stop contradicting yourself

But the reason I really don't like RVS casue it leads to a huge fight, and blah blah, it also is usually*when I play) a senseless bw. But Since this place is different, I am trying to convey my thoughts some :/ and when i played it was like a 4/20 ratio of scum to town. Its just a pingto me when there is only a week to discuss and some things don't go past it and people vote for you cause of something stupid >_>. but meh

Unvote

[cloudocean]

Clarification: I [was / am still] using the same reasoning.

[SleepyKrew]

Cloud, you're missing the point. You yourself never posted the logic. Thank you for clarifying that you were going along with everyone else though. Now please, vote Kalofer.

[Elfen]

@SK
Umm you said you had some sort of meta for me before?? can you tell me what it was, and what you think it is now??

@ Cloud
Thats not the point as some people have stated, sure i understand your vote, but at least but some reasoning into it. At least tell us why(in

YOUR

words) that I am scum. Also, do you suspect any1 else?? you really havent said much, that was what I was pointing out, your lack of reasoning and posting.