Mini 1170: Nowhereville Mafia '11- Over!

[SleepyKrew]

Elf, based on the one game from on-site, I'd call scum. But I'm going to read the other site before jumping to conclusions.

[Supreme Overlord]

Sorry guys; I don't tend to get on over the weekends.

kks.

1. Do you prefer playing as Mafia/Town/3rd Party?
2. How often do you usually post?
3. What is your timezone?
4. What is your stance on gut reads?
5. Can I expect WoTs from you?

1. Town, so far; this is only my fourth game; the others have been newbies.
2. Couple of times a day during the week; rarely if at all on weekends.
3. AEST; GMT+10.
4. I don't particularly want to hear about them; use them to get a feel for the game, then make a case based on evidence.
5. I'll try to avoid it, but you'll probably get posts of quotes with responses from me.

Seeing as I have nothing else to do I am just going to follow espeonage
UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Kool

Or not.
VOTE: Kalofer

Contradictions are a big deal, but that particular one was excusable because elf is IMO newbtown. Unless, of course, you want to go ahead with the no mercy policy and lynch him for that which would be fine since he did contradict himself and that is scummy but I believe that if you are to lynch him he'll flip town.

I don't like this post. Elf may be a newb, but why clear him as newb

town

. At best, it's a null tell. You're blowing things out of proportion with the 'no mercy policy lynch' line. You also seem awful sure that Elf is town in this post. I don't like the way you seem to be copying straight from Espeonage.

[cloudocean]

@elfin

1.

At least tell us why(in YOUR words) that I am scum. Also, do you suspect any1 else?? you really havent said much, that was what I was pointing out, your lack of reasoning and posting

vote: Elfen

FoS: Necessary and Kalofer

2.

Thats not the point as some people have stated, sure

i understand your vote, but at least but some reasoning into it.

This doesn't make sense to me.

@sleepykrew

1.

You yourself never posted the logic

I

clarified

my reasoning - which you never refuted.

Clarification

: I [was / am still] using the same reasoning.

2. I'm fine with my vote for now - I don't buy the newb card. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[Supreme Overlord]

Cloudocean, please give three quick dot points as to why you think Elfen is scum.

[SleepyKrew]

Cloud, reread that first quote you posted. Now don't ignore the important part.

[cloudocean]

@supreme overlord

1. Avoiding responsibility

*Goes to random.org* *gets the number 12*
Randomvote:Espeonage

Well. I really don't like the RVS stage much, so Imma lay low till things start to pick up and all, past RVS

2. Contradiction #1

Well, one, when I played mafia games, the day was a week, so we really didn't have time for a RVS, but we still did. And it was always bad, cause it was sinless band wagoning. But this site is diff with the Day time.. And every time, I never voted, Cause I really did not like to be in a category with

pointless bandwagoners.

Thats why I am against it. I know what it is for, I know the concept of it, I know its good, but it can still be bad. But since here it is more than 1 week, I need to change my view a little since I have more time to speculate things. :/ sorry if that was confusing

But the reason

I really don't like RVS

casue it leads to a huge fight

, and blah blah, it also is usually*when I play) a senseless bw

I hate the idea of lynching some one(if the RVS is still on)

and it always end up town and the person always seems town but other people some how think they are suspicious, I always think they are town. But some reason they think the person is scum :/ That is why, on most of the games,

I don't vote on the first day, it is way easer to find scum on the second day, looking back on what people have said and all.

That is my style, waiting for information to pass by then go at it, not try to strive for it when I know I won't able to get it.

I dont give a flying shit if other people vote for other people

, that is fine by me, it gives me a chance to see why and what was the consequences in the action they had. I just don't want people to say that I am scum cause I don't vote and all. But for some reason they do.

Elfen, if you're anti-bw from RVS, then why'd you vote the same as my RVS

There you go contradicting yourself again. I'm anti-RVS but I random voted anyway. I'm anti-bw but I went on one anyway.

Don't have three, I so sorry .

[cloudocean]

@sleepykrew
I apologize for not paraphrasing things that have already been said sooner.

[SleepyKrew]

I forgive you, but only because of the picture <.<

[Elfen]

Elf, based on the one game from on-site, I'd call scum. But I'm going to read the other site before jumping to conclusions.

-Sweat drops-
I know Dx i can't help it

[SleepyKrew]

I read that as:
"I'm sorry, I'm obvscum, I'll get better."
Please tell me I'm wrong o.o

[Elfen]

I read that as:
"I'm sorry, I'm obvscum, I'll get better."
Please tell me I'm wrong o.o

I ment I know I can't help it. But I have tried to make it better. But i cant O^O and when i do try they say its suspicious of me to change my ways >_>

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Vote Count D-1 #3

(2) Elfen- LordChronos, cloudocean

(1) SleepyKrew- Necessary Evil

(2) Kalofer- Supreme Overlord, SleepyKrew

(3) The Kool- CooLskins, Espeonage, Kalofer

(1) Espeonage- Quinnster

(4) Not voting- WingDamage9001, Elfen, Panzerjager, The Kool

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is June 3rd, Midnight Central.

Looking for a replacement for Necessary Evil. Will give Panzerjager till Monday before I look for one for him as well.

[SleepyKrew]

@Mod
Umm... I never voted for Kool. My vote is on Kalofer...

Fixed.

-Midnight

[Espeonage]

ok back.
@ SK: I haven't. Haven't had an even leveled town before.
@ CoolHydra: I know you aren't. We have played before. Well one half.

@ Everyone, we need a wagon. Kalofer looks like who you guys want. He can be the next condemned or cleared. Not my favorite choice but whatevs.

Unvote, Vote: Kalofer

[The Kool]

A wagon, in this sense, being a general agreement to lynch the same person? Everyone may have differeing opinions on who is scummier, but as long as most of us can agree that one person is scum enough to lynch, then we can turn away from our primary targets for a bit and actually lynch someone.

[Kalofer]

OMG you too

Brutus

Espy? Ok so I guess we're not interested in The kool anymore are we? Fine
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Supreme Overlord

Seeing as I have nothing else to do I am just going to follow espeonage
UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Kool

Or not.
VOTE: Kalofer

Contradictions are a big deal, but that particular one was excusable because elf is IMO newbtown. Unless, of course, you want to go ahead with the no mercy policy and lynch him for that which would be fine since he did contradict himself and that is scummy but I believe that if you are to lynch him he'll flip town.

I don't like this post. Elf may be a newb, but why clear him as newb

town

. At best, it's a null tell. You're blowing things out of proportion with the 'no mercy policy lynch' line. You also seem awful sure that Elf is town in this post. I don't like the way you seem to be copying straight from Espeonage.

Espeonage looked like a man with a plan, I had no plan, he looks town to me, therefore I followed a townie who seemed to know what he was doing...problem?
You say null tell I say town, that one thing he said during RVS is IMO not scummy enough for a vote and I don't think the "no mercy" line is out of proportions, look at what cloud said:

@supreme overlord

1. Avoiding responsibility

*Goes to random.org* *gets the number 12*
Randomvote:Espeonage

Well. I really don't like the RVS stage much, so Imma lay low till things start to pick up and all, past RVS

2. Contradiction #1

Well, one, when I played mafia games, the day was a week, so we really didn't have time for a RVS, but we still did. And it was always bad, cause it was sinless band wagoning. But this site is diff with the Day time.. And every time, I never voted, Cause I really did not like to be in a category with

pointless bandwagoners.

Thats why I am against it. I know what it is for, I know the concept of it, I know its good, but it can still be bad. But since here it is more than 1 week, I need to change my view a little since I have more time to speculate things. :/ sorry if that was confusing

But the reason

I really don't like RVS

casue it leads to a huge fight

, and blah blah, it also is usually*when I play) a senseless bw

I hate the idea of lynching some one(if the RVS is still on)

and it always end up town and the person always seems town but other people some how think they are suspicious, I always think they are town. But some reason they think the person is scum :/ That is why, on most of the games,

I don't vote on the first day, it is way easer to find scum on the second day, looking back on what people have said and all.

That is my style, waiting for information to pass by then go at it, not try to strive for it when I know I won't able to get it.

I dont give a flying shit if other people vote for other people

, that is fine by me, it gives me a chance to see why and what was the consequences in the action they had. I just don't want people to say that I am scum cause I don't vote and all. But for some reason they do.

Elfen, if you're anti-bw from RVS, then why'd you vote the same as my RVS

There you go contradicting yourself again. I'm anti-RVS but I random voted anyway. I'm anti-bw but I went on one anyway.

Don't have three, I so sorry .

Avoiding responsibility...Really? Tell me you're joking, what responsibility is that? The responsibility of making up a good reason to vote for someone during RVS? And that's actually a reason to vote for someone? And then like I said the second point is not that much of a big deal IMO. Elf's openness and (what looks like) honesty is making me lean newbtown.

[LordChronos]

Kalofer, sheeping is not pro-town. Declaring that you are gonna lay low is not a town thing to do. Not voting on the first day isn't a town thing to do. Voting someone with a vote while professing anti-bandwagon views is not a town thing to do. You see openness and honesty, I see ducking and hiding and contradictions.

[Kalofer]

Yes, I agree but I'm saying that despite those anti town things, it is my opinion that he will flip town on account that I think the fit very well with newb town given the type of activity is (sorry this sentence is kind of badly worded). Of course that's just my opinion, we can easily test to see who's right by lynching elf right now, just say the word and I will immediately change my vote, the only problem with that being the "oh but then we won't have any info during day 2 and we'll be back where we started" argument.

[Kalofer]

of course, that's WIFOM, but I'm preferring my particular WIFOM to yours.

[LordChronos]

Change your vote.

[Kalofer]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elfin

did you do that just to see if I would?

[Kalofer]

dammit sorry I misspelt your name, I saw it in a quote somewhere.

[SleepyKrew]

If you're so sure he's town, then you should be defending him and NOT be voting him.

[Elfen]

Well, after walmart I shall vote

[Kalofer]

I'm not sure he's town, I'm leaning town on him and I was defending him but we'll never know what he is unless we lynch him. He could be scum for all I know and you could be right.