Newbie 1104 -- Game over

[chkflip]

Chaos, I see you're one of us who's yet to place a completely serious vote. Why haven't you?

You seem to be putting a lot of thought into your posts for someone with very few weeks experience. Do you adapt quickly?

Do you think Raz lurking into replacement telling in any way?

If Frostbite doesn't answer in the next day, you said you'd think him more guilty. Do you stand by this statement?

Who's your top three as of this moment?

[[p.s. anyone can answer these if they so choose, but it's aimed toward Chaos.]]

[chkflip]

EBWOP: Do you see Raz' lurking into replacement as telling in any way?

[Twistedspoon]

Do you think Raz lurking into replacement telling in any way?

I've seen both scum and town lurk into replacement, but I've seen it more commonly with town

Who's your top three as of this moment?

top 3 scum?
I'll be surprised if none of CC, frosty or noragar are scum

You seem to be putting a lot of thought into your posts for someone with very few weeks experience. Do you adapt quickly?

he's either very adaptive or has a scumpartner who gave him a mafia lesson in the QT pre-game. That's what i did last time I was scum in a newbie game. Tell the newbie everything I know about mafia pre-game in the QT beforehand s they look like a pro

since this could only be espe by PofE (due to ragriz not being present and me knowing I'm not mafia) I'm going to side with very adaptive. I have no evidence to suggest either of espe or chaos are scum at this point

answers in bold

[gbevilchaos]

Answers in bold.

Chaos, I see you're one of us who's yet to place a completely serious vote. Why haven't you?

I've yet to see someone display behavior that is scummy enough to warrant a vote. I'm not a player who tends to throw around votes unless I think the person should be lynched (unless it's used for pressure, but everyone else has done a fine job of keeping the pressure on). I almost placed a vote on Frostbite but decided against it because I wished to wait for an explanation.

You seem to be putting a lot of thought into your posts for someone with very few weeks experience. Do you adapt quickly?

I'm playing 5 consecutive games (4 of which are on another site). I've gathered a decent amount of experience across all the games, and I read through a lot of the Wiki. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I do adapt rather quickly to new games. I've also played "The Thing" on Starcraft 1/2 before, which is a similar concept to mafia ("Townie" Marines vs. "Scummy" Alien). This gave me a basic grasp of how to detect scum, I believe.

Do you think Raz lurking into replacement telling in any way?

This isn't telling at all. If he replaced out, it's because he was absent/inactive. I'm not sure what this question means, exactly. If you're asking if I think it's scummy, then no, not really. I doubt any scum is nooby enough to lurk so badly as to replace out of the game.

If Frostbite doesn't answer in the next day, you said you'd think him more guilty. Do you stand by this statement?

He already answered, so no, I won't place my vote on him at this time. If he hadn't answered, I planned to place my vote on him to apply pressure.

Who's your top three as of this moment?

In no specific order, Frostbite, CC, and Lord of Graves have all struck me as slightly scummy. For CC and Frostbite, I've already stated what I saw off in past posts. For Lord of Graves, I have definitely seen a few off things, but I plan to keep them to myself for another day or two. If they form a pattern, I'll post my observations.

[gbevilchaos]

You seem to be putting a lot of thought into your posts for someone with very few weeks experience. Do you adapt quickly?

he's either very adaptive or has a scumpartner who gave him a mafia lesson in the QT pre-game. That's what i did last time I was scum in a newbie game. Tell the newbie everything I know about mafia pre-game in the QT beforehand s they look like a pro

since this could only be espe by PofE (due to ragriz not being present and me knowing I'm not mafia) I'm going to side with very adaptive. I have no evidence to suggest either of espe or chaos are scum at this point

I'm just adaptive. I wasn't around during the pre-game. I replaced in for someone who never confirmed.

[Twistedspoon]

I completely forgot about LoG

VOTE: Lord of Graves

always seems to be riding the biggest wagons. could be that he's trying to fit in and look unsuspicious by being on the wagons

[noragar]

Scum skimming detected. Easy town cred attempt detected.

FoS

: noragar

What is scum skimming? It wasn't in the glossary and I can't really respond to the accusation without knowing what it is.

As far as easy town cred, I assume you mean answering someone's question about what abbreviations meant? Really??? That's scummy??? Why single me out to FoS instead of also FoS'ing Twisted who said almost the exact same thing at the exact same time?

[gbevilchaos]

He's IC, you're not. I'm guessing that was his reasoning for it.

[forest_air]

I like that vote on TS you got there....

Awww...I was kind of hoping for some sort of response, not fluff. Makes you seem more suspicious(if it weren't so early in the day I would consider voting for you, but lynch time would be too early)

In the meantime, I'm gonna come up with a crazy theory that proves that CC and TS are actually working together. But since this is entirely subjunctive, so it's probably wrong. Instead I'm gonna suspect the chkflip for being new. I'm gonna sit back and observe for a while before I make another vote.

Unvote: TwistedSpoon

For anyone who cares, I suspect chkflip, TS and CC, in no particular order. (Don't take my suspicion for chkflip too seriously as that's also mostly out of bias.)

[Twistedspoon]

I'm gonna sit back and observe for a while before I make another vote.

if we all 'sat back and observed' the game would come to a standstill. not good

For anyone who cares, I suspect chkflip, TS and CC, in no particular order. (Don't take my suspicion for chkflip too seriously as that's also mostly out of bias.)

let's hear you explain them then

also, talk about Lord of graves and frosty (who has been similar to CC in L-1'ing)

[gbevilchaos]

How do you suspect TS and chkflip? I haven't seen any major scum tells from either of them.

[Twistedspoon]

major scum tells?

[Twistedspoon]

i mean it assumes you have minor ones. I'm interested now

[198Frostbite]

Now that I (hopefully) understand what's going on and I feel that I'll have to
watch for a bit longer to get a sense of what's going on.
Except for LoG who seems be a bit of a distractor by focusing the blame on me?

BTW Boarding school is just as you imagine it. Minus the Quiddich and the magic
and elves who cook our food. But there

is

one dwarf

[gbevilchaos]

i mean it assumes you have minor ones. I'm interested now

Not really. That was just how I like to word it. Practically everything can be a tell if you look at it hard enough, so I just refer to ones that are significant as "major" scum tells. As opposed to "minor" tells which are more WIFOM-y in nature.

[CaptainCuddles]

I refuse to conform to your avatar culture.

@forest_air: Suspicious of TS yet you cancel your vote as I bring it up?

[gbevilchaos]

I refuse to conform to your avatar culture.

@forest_air: Suspicious of TS yet you cancel your vote as I bring it up?

He unvoted because he had no evidence.

[CaptainCuddles]

Then why is he suspicious of TS?

[gbevilchaos]

I don't know to be honest. I asked that a few posts earlier.

[forest_air]

Okay, sorry TS, by that I meant I wasn't going to make another vote until I had enough evidence. I was really tired when I typed that.

I don't really suspect Frostbite, as he retracted his vote once he noticed what was wrong. As for Lord of Graves, aside from the L-1ing, I haven't really noticed anything scummy about him. But I will keep my eye on him because of that. Since it's happened a few times already, and after what was said about L-1 as a means of pressure and getting out info, it doesn't seem as suspicious to do it anymore. Instead, the real person to suspect would be the person who take the hammer if the lynchie ends up being a townie.

It's day one, I don't exactly have enough to give an objective analysis, which is why I unvoted, CC. So far, none of the things that you've said have really been enough to influence who I suspect or decide to vote for. If you keep making comments like that I will have even more reason to believe you're scum.

As for the reason I suspect TS, I'm just being cautious, because he may end up being scum. It's just a feeling, at this point in the game, the odds of me being correct are pretty low. Another reason why I withdrew my vote. I mostly voted for him to see what kind of reactions I got and wondering if anyone would actually decide to bandwagon.

And by the way, I'm a she.

[Twistedspoon]

As for the reason I suspect TS, I'm just being cautious, because he may end up being scum.

that's true for all of us

As for Lord of Graves, aside from the L-1ing,

Lord of graves never put anyone at L-1, only frosty and CC did that

Since it's happened a few times already, and after what was said about L-1 as a means of pressure and getting out info, it doesn't seem as suspicious to do it anymore.

so what info were you hoping for?

[gbevilchaos]

L-2 = pressure
L-1 = scummy

It is unlikely that someone who is a smart townie would put someone at L-1. Most would recognize that real scum could hammer for a quick lynch. The ones that have happened thus far are likely results of the players being new to the game.

[Twistedspoon]

wow, gb does learn fast

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.05

198Frostbite - 2 - CaptainCuddles, Lord of Graves
Lord of Graves - 1 - Twistedspoon

Not Voting: chkflip, gbevilchaos, Espeonage, noragar, 198Frostbite, forest_air

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: June 3.

V/LA: ...

Lord of Graves has been prodded.

[Twistedspoon]

anyways, I still want to know why everyone's being so conservative with their vote