Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[Juls]

Have you considered that he might be stupid?

Before I knew Kats alignment I read them as opposites. I still believe that. It's all I am saying.

[CrimpingNoofball]

why does this feel like cobbler knows ludi targetted someone night one?

@tajo: if Ludi = town (which is unlikely), AND benmage actually tracked him (which he did) then it stands to reason Ludi has a role that Targets.
If it were a town role, then he would have targeted someone Night 1, as well, RIGHT?!
T H U S
Cobb is setting Ludi up to fake-claim Cop or something. This is clear.

In other news, children, MamaDGB is gone, and Mamacamn is here... so lets have some rational discourse before we kill us some more scum.
Enough with the nonsense and the stupid memes. You especially, C-worl. I dont do well with incivility.

I agree with Juls' last post. We were expecting to be quite dead. We are a little suspicious of tajo. And AGM.
Luckily, we have a little treat prepared for anyone who might want to visit US in the night.
ALSO, we would apreciate it if Ludi would get in here and claim. We enjoy hearing the pathetic last ramblings of caught scum, as they try and bargain for their lives. But we will be laying down our vote before bed if he fails to do so.

[C-Worl]

You especially, C-worl. I dont do well with incivility.

Then you may want to avoid playing games with me in the future. Half my strategy is causing scumfrustration via ad hominem

[populartajo]

why does this feel like cobbler knows ludi targetted someone night one?

@tajo: if Ludi = town (which is unlikely), AND benmage actually tracked him (which he did) then it stands to reason Ludi has a role that Targets.
If it were a town role, then he would have targeted someone Night 1, as well, RIGHT?!
T H U S
Cobb is setting Ludi up to fake-claim Cop or something. This is clear.

this is exactly what I was thinking but tbh cworl also brought the possibility of a n1-n2 confussion, which I think its still possible...

i really doubt agm is scum.

[Juls]

Then you may want to avoid playing games with me in the future. Half my strategy is causing scumfrustration via ad hominem

In fairness, you are playing a game with them. You replaced in.

[populartajo]

juls ill answer you tomorrow, im going out now

[C-Worl]

Then you may want to avoid playing games with me in the future. Half my strategy is causing scumfrustration via ad hominem

In fairness, you are playing a game with them. You replaced in.

I have no problem playing with him. I like DGB. (Don't know Camn that well) I was just letting him know for future reference.

[Juls]

My updated list

Strongly Feel they are town

8) CrimpingNoofball - most obvious
14) SpyreX - aggressive scumhunting

Leaning Town

4) Benmage - based on claim, was town-neutral yesterday.
3) Amrun - reactions D1
17) Cobblerfone - based on Kats flip
10) xRECKONERx -
18) evilpacman18

Neutral

7) kanyeknowsbest - haven't really got a read on him

Leaning Scum

5) Lowell - lurky
2) populartajo - based on Mask death primarily
9) C-Worl (replacing WingDamage9001) - gut, Katsuki interactions, lack of scumhunting

Strongly Feel they are scum

11) Sathoris - gut, lack of scum hunting, iso #10 scummy looks like bussing
13) Magister Ludi - based on track, lurky
16) AlmasterGM - D1 interactions with Katsuki, general scummy read on him so far this game.

[Juls]

EBWOP, got distracted and skipped over explanation for Reck and pacman

Reck - only thing I didn't like was the hypo-claiming
pacman - had some town-tells D1 for me

[xRECKONERx]

AD HOMINEM IS NOT SCUMHUNTING C-WORL
YOU IGNORANT FUCKWAD

[CrimpingNoofball]

Then you may want to avoid playing games with me in the future. Half my strategy is causing scumfrustration via ad hominem

Or I could just kill/vig/lynch you immediately every game... starting with this one?

[evilpacman18]

Welp. 2 for 2. Start sheeping me.

vote:AGM

[Juls]

Have you missed ben's claim?

[Magister Ludi]

I am

Vanilla Town

.

I am not any power role. I am not mafia. I can make no night actions and have no night actions.

Benmage claimed to track me to the night kill obviously to fish for reactions.

Who would jump on the wagon.
Who would stay off because they knew he was lying.
Who would waffle around.

Its obviously the M.O. of several players to do that. It is quite possible he is in fact a tracker with a different result, in which case Benmage please claim that result. But dont say you tracked me anywhere, because that is impossible.

[Juls]

Interesting...

but thats an easy way to get himself lynched tomorrow. We test him today.

[Magister Ludi]

Ah, no, thats an incorrect way of thinking. You're pinning tomorrow's Benmages lynch on me should I be quickhammered in the next several posts.

Benmage's gambit would only come from town, as it would be a suicidal scum play.

But I am also town.

We are lynching neither of us. Several of the votes that have sprung up on this wagon need to be lynched, because they know for a fact that Benmage is lying and are more than happy to take the town lynch today and then again the town lynch tomorrow.

[Juls]

We are in a game of speed mafia, why would he target you as town gambitting when he saw how fast yesterday ended?

[Amrun]

I had a town read on Magistar Ludi before this, but I don't care. He dies today.

[Magister Ludi]

Juls, the only reason I could possibly think of was that he thought my vote on him yesterday was bad enough to think I was mafia and then tried this trick today to get reactions and the lynch.

I have seen this happen multiple times in games where people will claim results that are in no way shape or form feasible to get reactions and their desired way of thinking. Its silly and stupid, but It has clearly happened again.

If you had a town read on me before, and you are town don't let one man's attempt and oneliner statement to get a lynch essentially distort your way of thinking.

[Juls]

Link the games please.

(btw, you were low-neutral for me D1 and ben was high-town-leaning)

[Juls]

That should say ben was high-neutral/town leaning.

[Amrun]

I just don't think we can trust you now unless Benmage dies and flips not tracker / scum. Or if Benmage retracts the claim.

[Magister Ludi]

Most recent one I read that lead to a straight town loss.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 3#p2996973

There are many games where this is in the similar vein. Also, I would like to hear from Benmage again about his claimed 'result' on me.

[Magister Ludi]

The only way that scenario could happen was if benmage flips before me, whichwould mean we didn't go through with this misguided lynch, which would mean that the town realized I am town.

By proposing that scenario, it indicates to me you don't fully believe in this lynch but are hesitant to go against a claimed tracker with result.

I am town. You need to see this.

[CrimpingNoofball]

There is simply no way you live tonight, Ludo.
Benmage dies if Ludi flips town.
If benmage THEN flips town.. we have some serious busdriver-shit going on.

If you ARE town, Magister... give us your reads pronto. We dont have time to waste.

VOTE: MAGISTER LUDI