00s Band Mafia (Game Over!)

[DemonHybrid]

You're playing a town game this game. I know I'm going mostly off of meta, but you've done a lot of scumhunting in this game.

[C-Worl]

What about me DH I'm trollin. Don't you think it's a scum tell?

[Pine]

What crack are you on, Cam?

[C-Worl]

CRACK COCAINE!!!!!!!!!!111111oneoneoneone

[Parabollocks]

C-worl, quit slayer's gambiting, it's not working and it's an old gambit. >_>

[C-Worl]

C-worl, quit slayer's gambiting, it's not working and it's an old gambit. >_>

Ok. Time out. I'm not pretending to be dumb when I say this but I legitimately don't know what you're talking about.

What is Slayer's Gambiting?

[Parabollocks]

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... 27s_Gambit

[C-Worl]

There is controversy that Disciple Slayer's actions were not intentionally scummy, but were, in fact, bad play.

Why'd ya rule that out?

[Parabollocks]

bad play=/=scummy.

[Slaxx]

Vote Count 2.01

Not Voting

: Nicodemus, evilpacman18,

Tarsonisocelot (3)

: C-worl, Nintendoaddict1, Gorilla

Diddin

: Scumhunter

C-worl (2)

: Diddin, Tarsonisocelot

Gorilla (2)

: Chesskid3, Demonhybrid

Scumhunter (2)

: Gaoth, Parabollocks

Gaoth

: Pine

Nicodemus

: Regfan
Day 2 Deadline is in 12 days.
With 14 alive, 8 are needed to lynch.

Your mod is going to be gone until sunday afternoon. So is your back up mod. I apologize for the inconvenience, I will see what I can do.

[C-Worl]

Vote Count 2.01

Not Voting

: Gaoth, Nicodemus, diddin, Gorilla, evilpacman18, Parabollocks, Regfan, Hiraki, tarsonisoceot, scumhunter, Chesskid3, Demonhybrid, Pine, C-worl

Tarsonisocelot

: C-worl, Nintendoaddict1, Gorilla

Diddin

: Scumhunter

C-worl

: Diddin, Tarsonisocelot

Gorilla

: Chesskid3, Demonhybrid

Scumhunter

: Gaoth, Parabollocks

Gaoth

: Pine
Day 2 Deadline is in 12 days.
With 14 alive, 8 are needed to lynch.

Your mod is going to be gone until sunday afternoon. So is your back up mod. I apologize for the inconvenience, I will see what I can do.

So how can I not be voting but be on the tarson wagon at the same time. Back up mod sux. (<3)

[C-Worl]

EBWOP nvrmnd it was fixed

[diddin]

Vote: Parabollocks

I read the thread Gaoth. I just spaced that you had claimed. IIRC the only people yet to claim are hardcore lurker Nico and Scumhunter.

Para's wagon vote on Scumhunter is baaaaaaaaaaad.

[Parabollocks]

>implying wagon.

2 votes is not a wagon, and secondly, i'm tired of him pussyfooting around, maybe some pressure will get him to play serious.

[Pine]

Votes on Gaoth, please. Scumhunter or diddin votes are reasonable, but not optimal.

[diddin]

PRESSURE VOTES DO NOT WORK IF YOU SAY THEY ARE PRESSURE VOTES

Why are people voting Scumhunter? He's dumb, but obvious town.

[Scumhunter]

Diddin, I am not obvious town. Not in the slightest. You are scum. You are trying to gain town-cred for later when I flip town if I continued to troll.
Oh and by the way my main performance is No One Knows. I will not tell my encore song if I have one. It's fun to rile up those who aren't used to a healthy dose of trolling wifom.
For the record, my vote on Diddin is 100% serious and a very strong fos. My play has not been obvious town and yet to this point it hasn't been dumb in the way that someone would easily interpret as a town-sided player being dumb. Let's lynch him. Not trolling nor joking whatsoever.

[diddin]

I just need to stop listening to you<_<.

[Scumhunter]

I just need to stop listening to you<_<.

Scum translation: I hope no one else is listening to you.

[diddin]

NEWSFLASH: Nobody else IS listening to you.

[tarsonisocelot]

...this thread.

I'm leaving my vote on C-Worl because reading his posts is hurting my brain. Can't do more reads right now.

V/LA until Monday

[evilpacman18]

Tarson case time!
Tarson ISO

#0: Easy town reads are easy. Thing about ISOs are I can't see the context but I remember her coming in REALLY late so odds are several people already had gorilla and Regfan at least on some town lists. Chesskid is easy. Miller claim at the start. This guy doesn't post shite but his reads are usually pretty good. diddin town read is pretty given too though I'll admit, he could be scum fairly easily still. Her scumlist contradicts itself and she's fine with that. This nets town points. Scum know contradicting is bad. So they avoid it. If it happens it's usually in posts that are distant from each other yet this contradiction happens on the same line. It's WIFOMy but as a general rule I like to believe that people who are blatantly scummy are less likely to be scum. This is why Scumhunter or C-Worl haven't been quicklynched yet.

#1: "then I realised that you were probably better than to do something so obvious as scumbuddies and revised my read accordingly." This is a blatant lie. Lynchable offense.

#2: Is Nintendo a hydra? Because she calls Nintendo "them" several times in the second paragraph. *checks Nintendo iso* Nintendo isn't a hydra. Explain this.

#3: Notice how she's adamant on one of C-Worl and Pine being scum but that they can't be scum together and that C-Worl must be the scum. I'm thinking lynch Pine if she flips scum.

#4 and 5: Factual information. Great way to seem useful without being useful.

#6: That "some band called" really sticks out to me. Why did she feel the need to distance herself from prior knowledge of the band's existence in such a pseudo-subtle fashion. What I mean by "pseudo-subtle" is that it would have made more sense to say something more along the lines of "I'm Cage the Elephant. I've never heard of them." I'm thinking it's a bad attempt at sounding like she DIDN'T have to get on Wikipedia to find a song by them.

#7: Pass

#8: 3 of the 4 players she picks to read are already players she's made her opinion on well-aware.

This is a good vote.

vote: tarsonisocelot

Scum: tarson, one of chesskid/Scumhunter/C-Worl/Nicodemus (the fairly unreadable anti-town players), Pine, ???????? (Gaoth/Nintendo or diddin maybe).

[nintendoaddict1]

Umm, k. I seriously have miised about 4 or 5 pages cause I only get one e-mail since the last time I checked here, sooo, I'm off to catch up.

[Regfan]

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Post #396 by Parabollocks - Mafia generally avoid locking themselves in with 'unchangable town-reads' as it severely reduces the msylynh pool thus this is a town-tell. The reasoning you provide for it in your next post however is extremely poor. Can you explain your town-reads individually please.
Post #401 by Scumhunter - Calling someone town isn't a slip. You know this really well.

I've said it before, saying it again I want serious reads from you.

C-Worl, stop fluff posting and answer the question I directed towards you - What did you gain from the occurances of day one?

Post #446 by Gaoth - Can you explain Nico-Town and Diddin-Scum in more depth please, the rest I can understand to some extent.
Post #447 by Pine - He changed his day one reads, that's not a contradiction nor is it a scum-tell.
Post #465 by Diddin - I can agree pressure votes lose their value if you state that they're a pressure-vote however I don't see how Para doing so is a scum-tell.
Post #466 by Scumhunter - No. You better be joking here, him stating he believes you're town is nowhere near valid enough reasoning for believing he's mafia, if you believe that's the case you'd be voting and pushing on DH.

I don't exactly agree with Post #471 by Evilpacman18, there's several flaws in it:

#0 - Coming into the game late isn't exactly a scum-tell nor is having similar reads to other people. Put yourself in her shoes for a second, can you understand those reads coming from town-Taron? Yes. Can, you understand them coming from scum-taron? Yes. Therefore it's a null-tell.
#1 - Not a blatant lie. She reviewed his early conclusion and realized it was incorrect.
#2 - Calling someone a "them" isn't a scum-tell.
#3 - The only thing about this that I agree with is that her being adamant that one of Pine/C-Worl are scum reads as overconfident.
#4, #5 - Factual information is a null-tell, there's town and scum motivation behind doing so.
#6 - Interesting, I'll re-read into this post later when I have time but first thought is that it's a null-tell.
#8 - This is a good point.

Tarson, I want your thoughts on ALL players in the game if that's not too much to ask

All up the case is weak, it revolves around you going into t he anaylsis already believing that Taron is mafia rather than judging her posts objectively. I'm interested in you explanding on your thoughts on Scumhunter and Nicodemus though.

[C-Worl]

217 is really bad because Tarson is using the logic that X has contributed more than twice, when he has 3 posts.

3.

He hasn't given any to much content. This is my wagon mofos.

Vote: Tarsonalot

I'm a she. Who and what are you referring to with X? And did you read the post where I said that I'd only just realised the thread was open and was reading through as quickly as possible to give some reads? They're not necessarily very good, though I'm quite happy with chesstown, regtown and C-Worl/Pinescum (probably one but not both).


Talapus has just jumped into my scumlist majorly with that overdefensiveness.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Talapus

What over defensiveness?

You give a racist troll the hammer on a claim of a black person. And you expect quick hammers NOT to happen. Shame on all of you.

vote Talapus

What the fuck is this vote? Seriously what the fuck is it? I don't see any reasoning and it seemed he though it was the hammer. FUCK THIS AND THE MAGIC CARPET IT FLEW IN ON.

Unvote

Vote: Talapus

very successful day 1 guys this wagon will be great for analysis post flip (tbh i don't even care what the flip is)

This is a scum post I don't care what else he had going for. He hammered and he "didn't even care what the flip is" Really?

Successful wagon on obvscum was successful.

Keeps pushing the wagon even after the hammer and Talapus gaves a bah post saying go townies before this too. There was no need for this post from Diddin but he posted it anyway. My guess is to look more town. You all know what that means.

So to answer RegFan's question. What I learned from D1 (Well the Talapuswagon) is that Chesskid and Diddin are scum. And that Tarson and Scumhunter deserves FOSes.

FOS: Tarson & Scumhunter

Not sure where my vote is right now so...

Unvote; Vote: Diddin