New York 131: Tricycle Mafia (Day 5)

[mastin2]

Haven't decided, yet. Considering you, Pine, but that's kinda a wasted result, in my opinion. Considered confirming Toon for ya, but that seems more like a way of spitefully saying "I told you so". Considering nhammen, since his reads this game seem good and I'd love to have him be confirmed town. Only concerning thing about him is that he's likely to get NK'd.

Yeah, probably nhammen.

[mastin2]

For the record:
Deity's our lynch for today, and then we vig Surye. I'll be telling the town what to do D3 depending on Surye's flip. (Since we still have confirmed town alive, and therefore I still will not die.)

[quadz08]

The Whoaaaaaa, Nelly! Votecount

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

jmurph3 (0) –
silverbullet999 (0) –
mastin2 (0) –
nhammen (0) –

L-1 --->

DeityKabuto (6) – Toon Fighter, mastin2, jmurph3, Pine, nhammen, Surye
Pine (0) –
MrZepher (0) -
Surye (0) -
Nobody Special (0) -
Uite (0) -
Toon Fighter (0) –
Maxous (0) –
Knight of Cydonia (0) –

Not Voting (7) – Nobody Special, Knight of Cydonia, MrZepher, Maxous, DeityKabuto, silverbullet999, Uite

[MrZepher]

You'll be giving the town a suggestion what to do D3.

Since DK's at L1 do we still wish to discuss more or should I hammer?

[Uite]

Holy shit @ this game! But seriously, this is looking good, and I'd be all for hammering DeityKabuto if it weren't so early in the Day. I'm glad to see my reads from yesterday all but confirmed. However, isn't a claim like that against site rules?

[Nobody Special]

I seem to recall some kerfluffle from outing your scumbuddies, but I'm not sure it's against site rules, per se.

I'd prefer that don't hammer until I finish re-reading Day 1, but that's going to take me a day or so.

[Nobody Special]

EBWOP: I also want to find the thing about Mastin's day power that someone just referenced. Also, Mastin, why haven't you mentioned that request?

[MrZepher]

The fact that DK hasn't been modkilled by now says that he's given the scum a gambit of sorts (if not, then I'm sure you know what I mean).
I think the assumption that one of the people DK claimed were his scum buddies is correct; should we randomly choose the right one then it increases the odds of a mislynch because we believe the obvious WIFOM.

With the Pine counterclaim, I'm inclined to believe he's either scum counterclaiming to put scum into a potentially game boosting gambit situation
or
He's confirmed town, and now at a higher likelihood of being NK'd

[quadz08]

I am consulting higher powers, site rules, etc. on the issue of DK's post. Please remove the twists from your collective panties.

[Uite]

I'd prefer that don't hammer until I finish re-reading Day 1, but that's going to take me a day or so.

I second this motion. I'm aware of what happened, but it's a lot to digest.

[Maxous]

The fact that DK hasn't been modkilled by now says that he's given the scum a gambit of sorts

*Sounding like a broken record

Ignore the list, I cannot stress that enough.
Caught mafia only do things like that to confuse the town and have them running around like headless chickens trying to double-guess them. Just play like normal and don't waste your time on it.

[Surye]

The fact that DK hasn't been modkilled by now says that he's given the scum a gambit of sorts

*Sounding like a broken record

Ignore the list, I cannot stress that enough.
Caught mafia only do things like that to confuse the town and have them running around like headless chickens trying to double-guess them. Just play like normal and don't waste your time on it.

Agreed. Like I said this is a null situation.

[mastin2]

Alright. I have a result. I'm not going to say on who, or what it is. That's for Day Three.

Once again, I'll stress that no protective role be on me, and dare the scum to kill me. Because if they don't, I'll be leading the town tomorrow to victory. Pure and simple.

[DeityKabuto]

Anyways, you guys should have come to the conclusion that we shouldn't hammer me yet, let's wait around and get more information for the town. ^^

[Toon Fighter]

- If DK flips scum, that confirms mastin town

[Pine]

Mastin is not a daycop. A real daycop wouldn't risk their result being lost. He's gambiting, but whether as Town or as scum, I'm not sure

PE: How, Toon?

[mastin2]

And who's to say my result would be lost?

[Toon Fighter]

overall towniness, being on both wagons that led to scum, scumhunting throughout the game, being 100% sure I am town.

I find it very very hard to believe that, if DK flips scum, mastin is scum. He could, theoretically, still be a SK, if DK really is a roleblocker, as he claims, and he blocked mastin, maybe that is why the SK death didn't go through. Or maybe he killed Wraith.

Also, he could be taunting scum to kill him because he, as a SK, is NK-immune. If this is true, then mastin may be pulling a huge gambit towards a win as a SK

[Toon Fighter]

And yeah, I started the post assuming he was town, but changed my mind as I was writing it. He is definitely not mafia, that's for sure

[Toon Fighter]

In this scenario, he would be pulling silver's result out of his arse. SB would obviously confirm him, and claiming town DayCop is an excellent way to keep leading town as he is doing

[Pine]

I'd like to see Mastin vig'd. He hardclaimed daycop, then just softclaimed something like Oracle. One of those is not true. Further, his hardclaimed daycop role just simply doesn't operate as he just implied.

[quadz08]

DK will not be modkilled. If you have any questions about my decision, please talk to me postgame / post-your-death.

[mastin2]

I did no such thing, Pine.

My results are real, but I'm confident they won't be lost. That does not automatically mean something like Oracle. Like I said. Scum are free to NK me if they choose to, since I'm specifically telling the protective roles to be off of me.

I'm just 90% sure the scum have better targets in mind.

And anything beyond what I've said right now will be explained Day Three.

'Sides. Our vig's busy. Let 'em do their work. They did an excellent job killing Wraith (who woulda been a real risk of being lynched today had they not). They don't need to waste time on me. Not yet, anyway. Not when they've got the best target they possibly could: Surye.

Really, there's only one way Surye could be town--and that way will wait until Day Three, when Surye has been vigged.

Honestly, though, I don't blame Deity for essentially giving up: Godfather lynch Day One, scum lynched day two (presumably their roleblocker, leaving night roles free to massacre them), many confirmed town alive...we really can't lose this game, right now. It's a guaranteed victory.

[MrZepher]

We can if you keep trying to put town on the chopping block.
Just saying.

[mastin2]

Sure. But I'm not going to.

With Deity's scumlynch today,
And Surye's flip overnight,

I'm quite confident I can win this game, regardless of what Surye DOES flip. If he's town, I know the scum. If he's scum, I still have a good idea who the last scum is.

Like I said. We can't lose this game, anymore. So if I end up dead some time within the next few phases, no big deal.

And I still maintain that it'll be by lynch, rather than kill, because the scum aren't going to kill me.
1: Better targets are alive.
2: There is interest (albeit extremely weak interest) in a mastin-lynch. Scum aren't going to kill someone who could be lynched.
3: They think I'm bluffing, though I'm not. Honestly, I think most people right now would think I am bluffing about being able to win the game Day Three. But I'm dead-serious, and I'm looking forward to the scum's horrified looks when they fail to NK me and realize I'm right.