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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:42 pm

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Prologue
Nachomamma8 wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote: (which is causing my brain to explode)

Surprise surprise, your reads sucked.
Now let's get back to what we should have done yesterday.
Vote: Zodiark

Concur.
But you need to shun, not vote.
thoughtsmy case against Zod hasn't been weakened by anything that has occurred, in my opinion.
Stefunny, I find your comments about the unicorns interesting. Can you point to anyone else who thought those roles would be scum
I have no clue what a reaper is, but perhaps like a vig? Or maybe a watcher that see whatever someone does only if they die?
Haylen, can you tell us? I doubt it, but thought I'd ask

Both Hiraki and Stef stayed on their one man wagons
rC never intend to switch vote to scummy Zod
Hiraki still hasn't confirmed lover role.

Epilogue

Shun: Zodiark
"If I had to label someone as dangerous, it'd be Pulindar. I have a feeling his scum game is very similar to his town game.... What I think is dangerous about Pulindar is that his scumreads feel so liquid. He can post a wall of questions and decide he doesn't like your answer to one of them and justify a vote on you." ~ Prawneater
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:47 pm

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Shun: Zodiark


Thanks buddy <3
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 5:04 pm

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I still think Zodiark is town.

Shun: Charlie


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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 5:07 pm

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ReaperCharlie wrote:I am gonna go back and re-read the thread with the knowledge that BOTH Umbrage AND tanstalas were town (which is causing my brain to explode). I suggest everyone else do the same.

So you reread the thread, and yet...

ReaperCharlie wrote:I still think Zodiark is town.

Shun: Charlie


Same reasons as yesterday.

...your rereads produced the same result as two players who haven't reread the thread at all?
RC, your obvscum is showing ;)
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 5:09 pm

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The obvdefending of your buddy means that you're distancing from the other.
So scumteam is Charlie-RC-Zodiark?
Interesting.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 5:15 pm

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Zodiark is ultra-town, so you're wrong.

Also, Rhinox still needs to die.

Umbrage wrote:Something is up with Rhinox. I can't put my finger on it, but his posts really bug my scumdar.


Umbrage wrote:although I will support a tans or Rhinox lynch.
(lol i killed tans so u could kill Rhi--

wait that makes no sense)
Tans wrote:Rhinox Listing his 'reads' on a bunch of people. He doesn't know what to think about a lot of people, but didn't give his thoughts on Zod who is the biggest wagon and then votes me - whom he said he didn't have a read on.


Tans wrote:Stefunny and Rhinox could very well be scum as well, (2 two man scum teams)


I'm done discussing anymore.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 5:20 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote:I am gonna go back and re-read the thread with the knowledge that BOTH Umbrage AND tanstalas were town (which is causing my brain to explode). I suggest everyone else do the same.

So you reread the thread, and yet...

ReaperCharlie wrote:I still think Zodiark is town.

Shun: Charlie


Same reasons as yesterday.

...your rereads produced the same result as two players who haven't reread the thread at all?
RC, your obvscum is showing ;)

Aw dang it, you caught me... I haven't re-read yet. :P

But I don't think things will change much when I do (which won't be until at least tomorrow).

Zodiark's posts don't read like scum to me. Problem is, so do yours, even though your predecessor's didn't.

I'm gonna have to re-read you and Doombunny carefully, Nacho. Beware my trained schnauz.

I am interested to see what Nobody Special thinks.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 2:56 am

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topic still says day 1 >.>

Since my top scum pick is dead, I'll take a look at Zod and see what all the fuss is about. I'm also interested in looking at doombunny.
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 5:59 am

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Nom nom nom!
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:01 am

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Charlie post #15 wrote:Silly!

It's obvious that Nobody Special holds the Charlie (Unicorn) role. Just look at his post above!
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:07 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:
I'm gonna have to re-read you and Doombunny carefully, Nacho.
Beware my trained schnauz.

What is this...?
After being wrong about your top two scum reads D1? After distracting town all day D1, without doing any actual scum hunting?

Hiraki, what do you think the chances are of 2 two man scum teams and only one NK?

I could see Zodiarks posts being interpreted as scummy, but I still see no confirmation or denial of the lovers claim from Hiraki.
Stop dodging questions and start responding to things directly related to you.

I don't think lynching Zod is a great idea at this point because possibly we could end up losing two townies. I'm not convinced Zod is scum yet.

Charlie's insane flailing back and forth between wagons at the end of D1 was scummy as all hell, and now he posts again without any content. Same as yesterday.
VOTE: Charlie

If there is support for an RC wagon I would consider that vote as well. He is simply distracting town and has admittedly not kept up with the thread.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:09 am

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I'm going to do a vote count and then I want to be relatively left alone for another two days. If I don't pass wednesdays exam I'm going to be chucked out of Uni (again) which will be devastating :cry: Contact me on my email accounts which I have posted if there's an emergency, I'll be popping my head in when procrastinating anyway.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:10 am

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I would be down with an RC lynch.

I have to see a couple things from D1 -- Charlie, specifically -- but RC is almost
always
a good lynch. :cool:
....what?



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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:15 am

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Shun Count
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Rhinox: Hiraki
Zodiark: Pulindar, Nachomamma
Charlie: Reapercharlie, Stefunny

Not being a shunning bastard:

Deadline:
Thursday 5th June 9pm BST
Votes to lynch:
6/10
Prods:

Notes:
Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.

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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:15 am

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In response to Pulindar:
No, I was not on a one man wagon end of D1. I had switched my vote to Tans in post#441.

I had stated my thoughts on the two unicorns were pure speculation, but at this point with a town flip of the Charlie the Unicorn role I think there is a good possibility the Pink and Blue Unicorn roles are mafia. The only problem with this theory is that it is too obvious for them to be lovers/siblings and a double maf lover/sibling combo would be silly. Therefore until I hear more from Hiraki about Zods claim I don't think they could both me maf. I don't know of anyone else who stated those roles may be scum, it was just a thought based on the webisodes. (CMON THEY STOLE HIS KIDNEY!)

RC refusing to switch is something I forgot to add to my last post. Part of the reason I would consider an RC wagon.

Also. I did it wrong.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:17 am

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Stefunny wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote:
I'm gonna have to re-read you and Doombunny carefully, Nacho.
Beware my trained schnauz.

What is this...?
After being wrong about your top two scum reads D1? After distracting town all day D1, without doing any actual scum hunting?

You can't deny that Umbrage and tanstalas were insanely scummy. Are you denying that?

And are you saying I didn't do any actual scumhunting? Are you kidding me? I scumhunted more than 3/4 of this town put together.

Stefunny wrote:Hiraki, what do you think the chances are of 2 two man scum teams and only one NK?

I take it by this that you believe there's a three-man scum team? Or do you think a doc or blocker got lucky, cause I can't tell.

Stefunny wrote:I could see Zodiarks posts being interpreted as scummy, but I still see no confirmation or denial of the lovers claim from Hiraki.

Yes, comment on that. NAO plzthx

Stefunny wrote:Stop dodging questions and start responding to things directly related to you.

QFT.

Stefunny wrote:I don't think lynching Zod is a great idea at this point because possibly we could end up losing two townies. I'm not convinced Zod is scum yet.

Charlie's insane flailing back and forth between wagons at the end of D1 was scummy as all hell, and now he posts again without any content. Same as yesterday.
VOTE: Charlie

Finally somebody with a bit of common sense.


Stefunny wrote:If there is support for an RC wagon I would consider that vote as well. He is simply distracting town and has admittedly not kept up with the thread.

Um, I'm not distracting town. You just sheeped my vote. That's the exact opposite of distracting town.

And not keeping up with the thread is not a scumtell, just FYI. Go read POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA. Thx.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:21 am

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Just read the flip again...
@Hayl: What's a Reaper role do?


LOL. Too many Reapers and Charlies and Unicorns in this game. :P

This is the game I was born to play. Now if only we can WIN... :D
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:26 am

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I was not implying that I thought anything about Role blockers or docs or 3 man scum team...I was asking HIRAKI what he thought since he was keeps saying he thinks there are 2 two man scum teams. If you're asking though, I highly doubt it. I would say one scum team most likely, but what I can't wrap my head around is why they would have killed Umbrage when he was as scummy as he was. My only thought is that RC suggested he was possibly jester and there was no confirmation or denial from mod (As should be expected) So they figured we wouldn't lynch him. Other option is there is a SK/Vig who was listening to RC as well. Either way RC has influenced 2 deaths that were town. Yes they played a slightly scummy game but I still think there were more obvious candidates D1. A no lynch however was not beneficial so we had to go somewhere.

ALSO! RC, please stop referring to OTHER games that have little relevance to the game at hand. You keep doing it and I'm not going to go back and read those games.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:37 am

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You say they were both "slightly" scummy. I beg to differ. And trying to pin both of those deaths solely on me is 100% LAUGHABLE. Yeah, I called for a tans lynch, but I was only one vote. And you saying that I'm responsible for Umbrage's death is LULZ territory. I'm losing my town read on you fast.

So tell me, who would you have preferred to lynch yesterday? I see you stayed on Charlie for a very long time, without much asking of questions or anything. You seemed content to sit on his wagon (after *I* started it, I might add), and do nothing to influence or add anything to the conversation during the whole Umbrage/tanstalas/me/Zodiark threadsplosion. That is exactly what I call "sitting on a safe wagon". i.e. WHAT SCUM DO. And it's even more convenient, because you knew he wasn't going to be lynched, and now you can just hop on the same wagon again and say "lolz you guys were wrong. same wagon, same reasons. you guys shoulda listened to meeeee" and Pow, you look like you're being consistent. Which is exactly what scum try for.

Actually, I lost even more of my town read on you after I just realized that. You are next to Charlie on my scum list. Whether there are two scum teams or not, or just a scum team and third parties, I don't know. But I do know that if you ARE buddies with Charlie, that bussing him (and being consistently on him since Day 1) would be a perfect excuse to look more town after he flipped scum. After all, why would you sit on a wagon on your buddy for 95% of Day 1, and do little to nothing else?

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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 6:38 am

Post by ReaperCharlie »

And how can you tell me to stop referring to other games? METAING PEOPLE IS F*$KING IMPORTANT. Stop being LAZY.

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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 7:17 am

Post by Stefunny »

Actually I pointed out several times during D1 that I thought Charlie was scum, and continued to do so long after you had changed your vote. So you can say that the Charlie wagon was something *YOU* started and take credit for THAT, but you can't take credit for the Tans wagon that *YOU* also started?
Hmm, seems contradicting to me.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 7:23 am

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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 8:10 am

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No Stef. I'm not taking credit for you staying on Charlie all day when the play was obviously elsewhere. I'm saying that I was the one who initially started the Charlie wagon. Yes, I am also the one who started the tans wagon, but you can't pin his death solely on me. He was horribly scummy and I was only one of seven votes on him. Just because I was the first doesn't mean that his death is all my fault.

The entire point of me pointing out that you were on Charlie is that YOU STAYED THERE USELESSLY when there was obviously other stuff going on. Exactly what (in my experience) scum would do. And that is why you've gone up on my suspicions list. And you also failed to respond to my accusation saying that you trying to pin Umbrage's death on me is RIDICULOUS as well. So?

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Anyway, like I promised, Doom/Nacho analysis/ISO:

#0 (Doom): Pokemon song.
#1 (Doom): RVS.
#2 (Doom): Agrees with me, votes for Charlie.
#3 (Doom): Talks about Charlie being scummy, defends his use of smilies.
#4 (Doom): Small talk with Pulindar, asks NS why he wants to lynch me.
#5 (Doom): Criticizes NS for wanting to lynch me, criticizes policy lynching. Says it's too early for an Alliance.
#6 (Doom): Top 4 scum reads: Charlie, Nobody Special, Zodiark, me. Everyone else null.
#7 (Doom): Criticizes Charlie for using only gut, that far into the game. Criticizes my long Alliance discussion posts.
#8 (Doom): Criticizes Umbrage's criticism of ADS as useless, but doubts Alliance discussion will lead to catching scum.
#9 (Doom): Defends tans against faulty attack by Zodiark. Defends himself against Umbrage's accusations.
#10 (Doom): Makes an ambiguous statement about "why would town do this?" (referring to Charlie), but doesn't follow up. Fluffs to Hiraki. Questions Umbrage about walls being pro-town or not.
#11 (Doom): Criticizes Hiraki for deflecting accusation off himself, in the same way that Charlie did previously.
#12 (Doom): Reiterates questions to a number of people, pushes on Hiraki a little more.
#13 (Doom): Arguing petty things with Hiraki
#14 (Doom): Arguing petty things with Hiraki
#15 (Doom): Arguing petty things with Hiraki, criticizes my fluffposting
#16 (Doom): Asks for answers to questions again. Discussses with Zodiark the difference between no content and anti-content (?).
#17 (Doom): Questions Zod's attack on tanstalas for trying to "break the game", and defends tanstalas' actions.
#18 (Doom): Points out a glaring contradiction in Charlie's reads, where he has me as scum in one part of post #284, but in another part does not.
#19 (Doom): Thinks I'm null, but leaning scum because of my fluffposting. Scum reads on Charlie and Zodiark have gotten stronger.
#20 (Doom): Doesn't like my Superman poem. :( ...Also, explains why he thinks Charlie and Zodiark are scum.
#21 (Doom): Talks with me about Alliance (still opposed), Umbrage's scumminess, and Jesters (Hayl has never used any before).
#22 (Doom): Wants to wait until at least D2 for an Alliance. Reiterates a question of mine to Umbrage.
#23 (Doom): Discusses theory with Zodiark, among other things. Answers some questions.
#24 (Doom): Scoffs at Hiraki's nonsense-posts, asks questions to Hiraki and Charlie.
#25 (Doom): Replaces out while under no pressure, due to lack of time to devote to the game.

After reading that again, I don't remember why I thought Doombunny was scummy. In reflection, maybe it was the "too town to be a townie" thing, or perhaps I was getting scummy vibes from him in context, that I don't get just from a pure ISO. Either way, after re-reading him, I'm ready to slot him as strongly town. And now onto Nacho.

#0 (Nacho): Fluff to Pulindar (<3333 etc)
#1 (Nacho): Introduction post to the whole game and not just Pul.
#2 (Nacho): Krypt is prob-town. Pul is town. My persona is typical and chances of me being scum are "less-than-random". Hiraki looks like a scumbag. "<3 Google translate makes Pul say dirty things." Wait, never mind about scumHiraki, I think. Shuns Zodiark. Calls Hiraki town. Surprised the game isn't longer. Says he'll make a more serious vote later.
#3 (Nacho): Question about why the existence of VT's matters.
#4 (Nacho): Criticizes Zod for saying the Doom/Nacho slot has been "steadily slipping toward scum", even though Nacho's only made one post when Zod posted that.
#5 (Nacho): kryptinen = "obvtown". Likes NS's play, says it reads like NS town-meta. Asks NS to vote Zodiark with him. Umbrage = "scum scum scum", Charlie = "SCUM", ReaperCharlie = "town" (by virtue of the fact that I'd be playing a better scum game if I was scum), Pulindar = "unlynchable, bulletproof innocent-child vigilante-cop-doctor", tans = "smoking some serious, serious crack. and probably town because of it", Hiraki = "town" because of "lazy SERIOUS MODE", Stefunny = suggesting things that are too ridiculous for her to be scum.
#6 (Nacho): Calls for tanstalas to lynch Zodiark. Implies pulindar is town and monologues about a glorious victory.
#7 (Nacho): Defends himself against Zodiark, criticizes/mocks Zodiark.
#8 (Nacho): big Zod case.
#9 (Nacho): Calls out Zod for rolefishing
#10 (Nacho): ebwop
#11 (Nacho): Asks Stefunny to fix a votecount.. (?)
#12 (Nacho): RC's town (because I pushed Alliance thing far past what would be beneficial for scum), and for jester thing. But I'm an ok buddy to Zod if Zod's scum, because I ignored him for a lot of yesterday. Tentative town read on Rhinox, but not sure; keeping an eye on him. Disagrees with Umbrage about tanstalas and Zodiark.
#13 (Nacho): Thinks Umbrage+Zodiark (and NOT tans) as scum, is more likely than Umbrage+tans (and NOT Zodiark). More WIFOM about the doc protecting him, defends NS's succinct vote on Zodiark because "NS would not pull that with me as town or scum."
#14 (Nacho): Implores Stefunny not to push a lynch because of annoyance. Wants to lynch Zodiark REGARDLESS OF HIRAKI'S CONFIRMATION OF THE LOVER CLAIM? (wtf?!??!!)
#15 (Nacho): Imparts that self-voting has mostly been done by town, in his experience.
#16 (Nacho): Implores tans not to self-hammer, and to get back on the Zod wagon so the Unicorn Brethren can hammer (heh).
#17 (Nacho): Apology to Stef for being a jerk.

-- Day 2 --

#18 (Nacho): Says my reads sucked, and votes Zodiark again.
#19 (Nacho): *SHUNS Zodiark.
#20 (Nacho): Thinks it's obvscum of me not to want to vote Zodiark.
#21 (Nacho): Calls a Charlie/ReaperCharlie/Zodiark scumteam.

Interesting. I don't see any attempt to verify whether or not Hiraki can confirm Zodiark's lovers-claim. I see that he wanted Zodiark lynched yesterday IN SPITE OF THAT, and what's even worse is that in his Charlie/RC/Zod scumteam call, he fails to mention Hiraki at all. Even though they are claimed lovers together. Not sure if he's reaction-fishing or what, but... Nacho is just being dumbtown right now.

Now, a Charlie/RC scumteam in a Charlie the Unicorn game would be awesome and lulzy, but sadly it wasn't meant to be. Interestingly enough, I am actually thinking Charlie and Stefunny are scum together, with a possible Rhinox as the third buddy. One kill and one kill only last night suggest that there's no SK, but you never know what with doc protections and possible roleblocks and whatnot. *shrug*

Moar later.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 9:52 am

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FFS.

WHEN BOTH DEAD TOWN SUSPECT ONE PLAYER, SOMETHING IS UP.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 10:13 am

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Obviously
that was the WIFOM that scum were going for. It doesn't make sense to kill Umbrage otherwise.
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