Mini 1161 - Neruzian Era Mafia (Over!)

[Setael]

I'm not scum, i dont really know what to say to defend myself after that post as it was pretty convincing :\

well that one then not his last one.

How is that post town?

To be perfectly honest, I've put this off. Why? Because Setael's case is incredibly thorough, well-researched, and seemingly air-tight.

Similar, no?

[Faraday]

they're pretty much the sameeeee but i think town are more likely to post that. idk.

[Faraday]

anyway i'm still voting since you guys don't wanna lynch Vi. boo hiss and all that.

[Setael]

[quote="Faraday"]they're pretty much the sameeeee but i think town are more likely to post that. idk.[/quote]

I definitely disagree. If someone posted a wall of death on me when I was town I'd go ballistic and refute every point. Because I'm town so it's all garbage and can be refuted. Only scum would see a solid case on them and think/say something like that because they know it's all true, and therefore every thing they say in an attempt to refute it will be a lie.

[hiplop]

i tried to refute it?

[Zdenek]

POE mostly. He's not a town read.

Ok. After rereading, this is how I felt too. At least I couldn't write down a compelling case against him.

I think Setael is town.

If Hiplop is scum, you're almost certainly town, because you'd be bussing both your buddies simultaneously on D2 w/ the TS vote and the fake cop gambit. In my experience, scum more often just bus each other one at a time.

I disagree here. If Hiplop and Faraday are scum, then it means he was bussing one buddy while clearing Hiplop with the phony investigation result that they arranged during the night. However, that would mean that he is tying himself closely with his two scum-buddies, which isn't too likely either.

I agree with this last point made by Setael regarding Hiplop agreeing with the case against him.

I need to think about some things.

[Setael]

I disagree here. If Hiplop and Faraday are scum, then it means he was bussing one buddy while clearing Hiplop with the phony investigation result that they arranged during the night. However, that would mean that he is tying himself closely with his two scum-buddies, which isn't too likely either.

Don't you think that if they arranged it during the night, they'd have done it a little better? Do you think the plan was for faraday to fake a guilty and for hiplop to claim miller? And then, what? TS botched it up? So hiplop then decided not to claim miller? Read that interaction again. It makes no sense for faraday to be scum with both hiplop and TS.

[Zdenek]

I disagree here. If Hiplop and Faraday are scum, then it means he was bussing one buddy while clearing Hiplop with the phony investigation result that they arranged during the night. However, that would mean that he is tying himself closely with his two scum-buddies, which isn't too likely either.

Don't you think that if they arranged it during the night, they'd have done it a little better? Do you think the plan was for faraday to fake a guilty and for hiplop to claim miller? And then, what? TS botched it up? So hiplop then decided not to claim miller? Read that interaction again. It makes no sense for faraday to be scum with both hiplop and TS.

I'm not arguing that it makes sense for Faraday to be scum with Hiplop and TS, but that DY's reason for thinking it was wrong.

[Zdenek]

Oh I see what you might be getting at: that if he was doing it, then he had to be trying to bus them both, and they weren't expecting it.

I don't really care about this right now.

[Vi]

If hiplop claims Miller or yelps about a Framer, then Teaspoon is already in position to disbelieve it. If hiplop doesn't do any of the above, then clearly hiplop is the lynch du jour because lolguilty. No matter how hiplop responded, Teaspoon was going to park a vote on him.

That’s because TS knew hiplop was scum, clearly. How is Vi not seeing this? Oh wait, right. Scum buddies. Ok, that makes sense.

You've played with me (and everyone else) before; you know how I can see everything except what's in front of me.
As it stands, the explanation of Teaspoon knowing hiplop-scum does make sense, as does your response to the counterquestion of what TS-scum vs. hiplop-Town would look like. It's certainly enough to recant the too-dumb-for-scum defense I've given him so far.

Beyond that, though, my opinion hasn't changed. Setael's megapost has a noticeable lack of convincingly explaining why Sloth is Town, and it's not like Sloth has done anything better since I left. Faraday-Town isn't being contested, not after the gambit D2 AND knocking me out of fantasyland D3. DarthYoshi, if nothing else, isn't ACTING like scum Today, so that plus Tracker results are enough for me to lynch someone else. Zdenek is Zdenek. So, Sloth and one of {hiplop, Setael} for scum, and I'm more willing to lynch hiplop than Setael because :effort: .

If someone posted a wall of death on me when I was town I'd go ballistic and refute every point. Because I'm town so it's all garbage and can be refuted.

I don't agree, but that's just me.

Three people, two scum, one mislynch allowed - I'm willing to hammer hiplop and see what happens. Any last words, hippilopstocking?

[Faraday]

Hiplop's got the worst luck if he's scum here. Poor guy.


-----------------------[] I guess. We have his reads (lol reading dead player suspicions, who does that)

[Faraday]

also; I'm more likely to refute stuff as scum, I know they're wrong when I'm town I feel like I should prove them wrong as scum. it's player dependant I guess, though I'd never say 'lol good case on me bro' as town either.

[Vi]

-----------------------[] I guess. We have his reads (lol reading dead player suspicions, who does that)

I didn't ask for reads so much as a last chance to see squirming. Besides, frankly I wouldn't put a lot of faith in hiplop's reads.

Then again, I don't need to see any more and I don't think anyone except the silent Sloth has considered objecting to the hiplop lynch, so

Vote to Hammer: hiplop

though I'd never say 'lol good case on me bro' as town either.

I've done it before in the same game that won charter his revenge not-quite-vote. That was one of many low points in my career.~

[hiplop]

[Setael]

Please be scum, hiplop. I'd like to continue believing that the wall of death is never wrong.

[Neruz]

Doom Prophecy

Vi

( 1 )

- Zdenek

DarthYoshi

( 1 )

- Sloth

hiplop

(

4

)

- Setael, DarthYoshi, Faraday, Vi

Not Voting -

hiplop,

With 7 alive, it is 4 votes to lynch

The hammer falls, it falls on

hiplop

! Poor hiplop is too busy making a sad face to dodge the crushing blow and swiftly pummeled into a fine paste. The town gathers around his squashed remains and notices that his blood is

red

! Only one kind of person would dare be associated with such a colour!

hiplop (Mafia Goon)

has been hammered into the ground!

It is now Night 3, Night 3 will end around 00:00 GMT+0 on Wednesday the 25th, or when all night actions are recieved, whichever comes first.

[Neruz]

Oh the humanity!

Zdenek

, poor

Zdenek

, he's just

gone

, it's like he was never even there, like he was just an auditory illusion; a reflection of other people and not a unique person himself!
As it so happens, that is in fact exactly what he was. How amazing is that!

Zdenek (Town Echo)

died Night 3.

You are a

Town Echo

You channel the echoes of dead players, temporarily reliving their lives.

Abilities:

[Passive] - Echo:

When a Power Role dies you gain the ability to use the actions of the dying PR. You do not learn any information about the dying PR's prior actions.

Special:

Should another PR die you gain it's abilities and lose the abilities of the previous PR.

[Day]

- 1 Vote

Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated or nothing can prevent the same.

5 people remain alive, it is 3 votes to lynch.

It is now Day 4, Day 4 will end around 00:00 GMT+0 on Tuesday the 7th.

[Faraday]

So like. It's Vi/Sloth?

DY is cleared unless we think 3 goons is likely.

Really no reason for Zdenek NOT to shoot someone scummy, sure it loses a mislynch if he's wrong but that...doesn't really matter so I'm going to guess he was roleblocked and thus it clears DY fully?

[Faraday]

wheeeeeee it was a super back-up >_>

[Faraday]

oh right he was a tracker wasn't he, i'm a retard.

[Faraday]

Funny thing, Sloth's last post on site was in this game on the 20th.

Want me to poke him?

[DarthYoshi]

Town probably has this in the bag. For all practical purposes, Faraday and I are both cleared, and if Setael is scum, then I'll eat my hat. We have presumably just one scum left, and a mislynch available.

Let's lynch either Sloth or Vi. If one flips town, we'll lynch the other tomorrow. Good game.

[Faraday]

vote Vi

?

[Setael]

If it's Vi, why was Zdenek the NK? Just for WIFOM purposes?

It's making me second guess my reads, so I guess it worked... ?

I'm going to sleep on it.

[Faraday]

...he was the claimed vig >_>