Wizards at the Sorcerers' Den - Endgame

[WrathChild]

The above was a SB quote from the rules.

You're proving our point.

You're going to have to expand Pine, because apparently I'm not seeing your point. The quote says specifically you CAN claim, but he does not advise it.

The reason he does not advise it is that there are probably abilities/spells connected to specific properties of claims, hence why the plan by SGR is either stupid or role fishing.

[IceyCupcake]

If night phases benefit the town, then day phases benefit the scum.

This is unpossible. Town always benefit from day phases. ALWAYS. More lynches is more scum deaths is more wonderful goodness.

I'm thinking this is an Epic Mafia tell rather than a scumtell, but I'm not loving it.

Hmm, how about we have the next serious wagon that's going to be the lynch (I don't mean L-1, I mean intent to hammer and everything) claim and see what happens? If he instantly dies, we may be on to something, if he doesn't and he's scum, we may be on to something, if we don't and he's town, we're probably wrong.

[chesskid3]

see the thing is
in such an ability full game, FUCK EM

LET THEM FUCKING COME AT ME BRO

i'd rather take the two conftown for as long as we live because scum should be scared to try to kill us.

[SGRaaize]

Wrath, if we are fucking morons that are unable to scumhunt worth a shit and will lose 4 townies a day before finally killing one Mafia, we are gonna lose anyways, PR's or not.

[Beefster]

BunnyLover, there's really no way you can see his claim and still believe he's mafia, I suggest you move your vote now.

D: I don't see it.

@SGR: Claiming is usually bad if your role says that. Like last game, I was a third party healer, and if I claimed any part of my role I would be deducted points (needed 20 to win.). Actually I have no idea why I am been called town, nothing I have done this game (in all my 2 or 3 post?) should have shown that I am town :<. Although Regean(Soben), had a point about me been straight forward, I've only done it when I was a bulletproof Townie.

@Town:So I guess we can't claim. Their might be another way around claiming.

@Town: You guys are all crazy. Obviously the mod is in the game

Unvote, Vote: Snow_Bunny

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WUT?

Unvote

VOTE: Bunnylover

Unvote

VOTE: IceyCupcake

Unvote

VOTE: Mana_Ku

[chesskid3]

to clarify

I have 100% accurate mod given info that Mana is aligned with the sorcerers.

Have a nice day.

Pedit:
FUck off, asshole

[Mana_Ku]

-I'm from the generation who believes something is a joke when the signs are there. So yeah, I'm taking your explanation lightly.

The only other part that is interesting about these pages is LMP's change of opinion about SGR. SGR later admits that his 'plan' was actually a joke. Does this change your opinion on SGR and why?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

True fact: LMP and me aren't the same person. What applies to me, doesn't have to apply to him.

@Snake
Beefster for his weak attack on SGR, his weak attack against Amrun, his responses to Amrun and his bad vote against me.

Chess, you know you want to vote Beefster~

[WrathChild]

Okay. If N1 is going to give us SO much info, why are we lynching today? We should all switch to no lynch, right? Because we might mislynch today, but TOMORROW. We'll be SO much better off!

Hell no, we shouldn't no-lynch. I'm saying that:

A) We, under no circumstances, should assume it was Pine Role-Claim = Mod-kill.
B) By pushing that angle, I think SGR was role-fishing.

I had nothing to do with Pine's death, but based on some of my own abilities I could see how claiming the information Pine did, would leave him exposed to certain and possibly immediate abilities.

@Snow Bunny: Are you able to confirm or deny that Pine was Modkilled?

[SGRaaize]

I'm thinking this is an Epic Mafia tell rather than a scumtell

Yeah, same here, I love playing EpicMafia, I find guys with the same idiotic mentality as WrathChild in every game I play.

PEdit:

A) IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS A MODKILL, WHAT MATTERS IS THAT IT KILLS PEOPLE WHEN THEY CLAIM, WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

B) How am I role-fishing? What the hell are you talking about

[chesskid3]

unvote

vote: beefster

mana if you would be a doll and confirm that you have 100% mod provided that i'm with sorcerers blah blah blah that'd be great.

Stfu about it being a modkill GO READ FUCKIGN INVENTOR'S MAFIA IF YOU WANT TO SEE A SNOWBUNNY MODKILL

[Beefster]

Mana-Ku: Town. Period.

Zdenek: Null. I flip flop on him a little. Overall, he has said very little, and I dislike his "placeholder vote." He has no suspects besides the lurker, really? But I liked the things he saw in Pine that he found scummy - because I found those same things scummy. Pine wasn't scum, so this drops back to null since I dislike some other things he has said.

Wrathchild: Leaning town. He flip flopped on me and very quickly. He said something and then dropped it once he realized it was unfounded. I generally see this as a town tell, since scum are more interested in looking consistent.

Nice town reads. You got any scum reads?

[WrathChild]

to clarify

I have 100% accurate mod given info that Mana is aligned with the sorcerers.

Have a nice day.

Pedit:
FUck off, asshole

Seriously CK? Did this need to be done right now?

[SGRaaize]

How did we even get this discussion about Modkills? Who cares if it is a Modkill? The best part is WrathChild is arguing FOR me and not AGAINST me by saying its a Mod-Kill.
A mod-kill implies Town would lose by claiming, because this isn't a mod-kill, they don't lose nothing by claiming and dying that way. Which means we would lose nothing (if it wasn't for the fact its a game-breaking tactic) to follow that strategy.

Honestly, WrathChild, you are clueless. That's all I can tell you.

[SGRaaize]

by saying its not a Mod-Kill*

[Beefster]

to clarify

I have 100% accurate mod given info that Mana is aligned with the sorcerers.

Have a nice day.

Pedit:
FUck off, asshole

Hmm. Didn't know that. You look pretty legit this time, so I will

Unvote

VOTE: Bunnylover

I really should read ALL of the new stuff before posting.

[chesskid3]

to clarify

I have 100% accurate mod given info that Mana is aligned with the sorcerers.

Have a nice day.

Pedit:
FUck off, asshole

Seriously CK? Did this need to be done right now?

I see no reason it doesn't need to be done now, if it was going to be done at all.

FUCKING TRY TO KILL US

TRY IT.

WE'RE SAFER IN THE OPEN

[SGRaaize]

WrathChild, answer me, how the hell am I rolefishing, you have been busting my balls since the beginning of this day, and your reasoning as gotten shittier and shittier. Next up, you'l vote me because I have two a's in my name.

PEdit: Speaking of Bunnylover, over at my huge Wall-of-Text, I asked something I feel like I should ask again:

Everyone considered Bunnylover town based on his first two posts, what up with that? Not saying he's Mafia, just don't see how anyone would read town from those two posts.

[Mana_Ku]

unvote

vote: beefster

mana if you would be a doll and confirm that you have 100% mod provided that i'm with sorcerers blah blah blah that'd be great.

Stfu about it being a modkill GO READ FUCKIGN INVENTOR'S MAFIA IF YOU WANT TO SEE A SNOWBUNNY MODKILL

It should have been obv we're partners in

crime

~
And we have our reasons for not hiding it~

Also, does nobody find it interesting that Beefster comments about Amrun posting town reads, when that was a request?

[SGRaaize]

I don't even care about Beefster ATM, I want WrathChild to answer me, what the heck is he talking about, seriously?

[Mana_Ku]

Wrath is wrong about the term 'rolefishing', but he's town.

[WrathChild]

WrathChild, answer me, how the hell am I rolefishing, you have been busting my balls since the beginning of this day, and your reasoning as gotten shittier and shittier. Next up, you'l vote me because I have two a's in my name.

PEdit: Speaking of Bunnylover, over at my huge Wall-of-Text, I asked something I feel like I should ask again:

Everyone considered Bunnylover town based on his first two posts, what up with that? Not saying he's Mafia, just don't see how anyone would read town from those two posts.

Because you KNOW that Pine's death was NOT a Mod-kill so you were trying to play like it was for your shitty "game-breaking" plan just to force a claim/mislynch.

You seem to push that claiming=death when you know it does not. Your whole plan was based on that deception.

[Beefster]

Also, does nobody find it interesting that Beefster comments about Amrun posting town reads, when that was a request?

I don't like it when people make a post of only town and null reads. C'mon, there's got to be some scum reads to show the rest of the class...

[SGRaaize]

"Leave it to me!" one of them said. "Me, Andrius the Vamp-"

Though you can paraphrase your role pm and make a claim, it is not advised to do so. Really, listen to me this time.

"I'm a wight!" he exclaimed out loud. "I'm a wig-" his voice was suddenly silenced as a dim glow began to emerge out of his mouth and eyes. The glow started to grow stronger, blinding everyone for a mere second. When the light disappeared, they all stared at a lifeless shell.

How am I deceiving anyone?

[SGRaaize]

I am not outguessing Snow_Bunny when Snow_Bunny is basically making sure everyone knows CLAIMING MEANS DEATH.

[SGRaaize]

You seem to push that claiming=death when you know it does not. Your whole plan was based on that deception.

Not only that, but apparently I know Claiming does not equal Death.
WrathChild, if you know something we don't, just out it, please.