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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:16 pm

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hiphop wrote:
vote hiplop
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Then again, I already caught him with a lie. He ripped off my name, and not the other way around, like he claimes. How can I rip off his, unless I could see in the future?


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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:36 pm

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hiphop wrote:

mod will the colors(yes "colors" not "colours") be revealed upon death?




Yes.

For what it's worth, I'll continue to use Colo
u
r but I have no problem with either being used.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:42 pm

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@Hiphop
What is the purpose of asking that question?
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:46 pm

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Glass wrote:@Hiphop
What is the purpose of asking that question?

It's not obvious from context?
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:46 pm

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No, care to explain?
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:50 pm

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hiphop wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:And no color claiming. That gives scum info as to the color breakdown.

Fyi, it is not the above that is the reason why we are not claiming, but the fact that the more one color dies the more the other's of that color gain powers. If one were to claim a color that is already dead, then mafia would know that person has a power.

Therefore, if colors are revealed upon death, any individual who claims to be the same color as some number of corpses paints a bullseye on their head. If colors are not, individual color claims offer little or no additional information to scum.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:52 pm

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There are other effects of color revelation on death which are even more important: for example, if colors were not revealed on death, a color massclaim would immediately reveal to scum the true census without aiding town much in IDing scum (although some effectively-counterclaim things could be done, if a player gained two powers but scum claimed to be their color).
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:53 pm

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Vote count 1.1


Voidedmafia (2) -
StrangerCoug, Glass

Jedo the Jedi (1) -
Packbat

hiphop (1) -
hiplop

hiplop (1) -
hiphop


Not Voting (8) - Leiskyrie, Meransiel, Rhinocke, xvart, HotDogs, Ghostlin, Jedo the Jedi, Voidedmafia


With 13 alive 7 are needed for a lynch.

Deadline can be found here


Attention:

It has become clear at this point that I have botched a bunch of the Role PMs. Yay Seacore! Apologies for this.
To rectify this with as little damage to the game as possible the two points below apply.

1. Your dots of colour gain powers as their dots of the same colour die. Some PMs will suggest that others dots of other colours do too. That's a copy/paste error, ignore it.

2. To limit the amount of damage done, I will make the mistake available to everybody


Example of botched Role PM wrote:
Welcome to Colour Concentration Mafia, XXX.

You are a drop of colour. A
drop of khaki
. You know there are other
drops of khaki
out there, diluting your essence. There are other colours out there too. And then there is the
colourless
... dark grey blobs of murk, looking to destroy your world. Eliminate them.

You currently have no powers, except for voting.

If one of your fellow
drops of khaki
is eliminated, you and the other
drop of red
will gain a weak power.

If the other
drop of khaki
is also eliminated, you will gain a stronger power.

You win when all the
colourless
have been eliminated.


Notice the big bold underlined bit? That should read whatever colour you are.

Be careful if you choose to discuss this, as it will likely border on quoting the PMs which is verboten.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 3:54 pm

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In the situation that actually pertains, what a color massclaim will do is (in all likelihood) reveal which colors scum has fakeclaimed, possibly making a few of the remaining players conftown.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:08 pm

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packbat wrote:
Therefore, if colors are revealed upon death, any individual who claims to be the same color as some number of corpses paints a bullseye on their head. If colors are not, individual color claims offer little or no additional information to scum.

There are other effects of color revelation on death which are even more important: for example, if colors were not revealed on death, a color massclaim would immediately reveal to scum the true census without aiding town much in IDing scum (although some effectively-counterclaim things could be done, if a player gained two powers but scum claimed to be their color).

None of this is relevant at all, we are not massclaiming colour at this point and whether colour is revealed or not at death does not change this. By the time claiming does become viable we will know if colour is revealed on death anyways.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:08 pm

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EBWOP:
Hence it seemed like a useless question to me.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:10 pm

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That's reasonable.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:12 pm

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We still haven't heard from 6/7 people (since Rhinocke is a hydra, I guessing there might be 7 more who haven't), and we need your input.

Though, I've only answered RQS, and not done RQS, so I'm not entirely sure what to ask.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:17 pm

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Thread's only been open four hours - I'd say if posting hasn't picked up in another twenty, it might be time to start throwing out queries to break the ice.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:23 pm

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I guess I'm just used to Newbie games that open up faster than this, or seem to.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:27 pm

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Glass wrote:None of this is relevant at all, we are not massclaiming colour at this point and whether colour is revealed or not at death does not change this. By the time claiming does become viable we will know if colour is revealed on death anyways.

On the contrary, I could fake color claim before I die(getting lynched<---Ask me how i am so sure, if you are curious), and scum wouldn't know the difference. However, being upon death I am revealed, it doesn't make a difference.

And the reason for the question was because it would have made this void. I thought it was a good idea, and still do for that matter, and therefore I asked the question.

Voidedmafia wrote:I guess I'm just used to Newbie games that open up faster than this, or seem to.

This isn't fast? Only my second post and have been ninja'd 4 times. Including the quoted.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 4:39 pm

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Colour claiming out. Common sense. I don't usually find a bunch of mechanic speculation helpful, so I'm already through with all this. Anyway,
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because of grading and attending a wedding. And for future, I typically don't post on weekends.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 8:01 pm

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2011 11:18 pm

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Uh, mhi guys, what's cookin'?

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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 9:47 am

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Oh yes. I'm really looking forward to this game. I haven't played a mini since before the 13 rule was applied. Happy hunting.

Personally, I hope the first town death is someone in my color group, because I want some powerz.

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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 11:15 am

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xvart wrote:Oh yes. I'm really looking forward to this game. I haven't played a mini since before the 13 rule was applied. Happy hunting.

Personally, I hope the first town death is someone in my color group, because I want some powerz.

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Seriously? BACKSTABBER!

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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 11:56 am

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HotDogs wrote:Townslip noted.

Why did you have to point this out?

Packbat's speculation stands out, but I can't pinpoint why and I'm having as much trouble deciding his alignment as anybody else's besides my own.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 12:08 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
HotDogs wrote:Townslip noted.

Why did you have to point this out?

I think I missed where the townslip actually IS. -_-

What post is it in, again?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 12:32 pm

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Void needs to get wagoned ASAP.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 12:48 pm

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Glass wrote:Void needs to get wagoned ASAP.

I believe such a wagon would be informative.

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