Dynasty Warriors Mafia (Shu Victorious)

[Amrun]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 11

Amrun

- 3 - DietyKabuto, elvis_knits, GreyICE - (L-8)

DietyKabuto

- 1 - Amrun - (L-10)

Drunken Unicorn Master

- 2 - RayFrost, InHimshallibe - (L-9)

elvis_knits

- 2 - Gammagooey, mykonian - (L-9)

GreyICE

- 3 - Vi, Juls, C-Worl - (L-8)

Iecerint

- 1 - Magister Ludi - (L-10)

Magister Ludi

- 4 - ToastyToast, Iecerint, Katsuki, Drunken Unicorn Master - (L-7)

RayFrost

- 1 - Maxous - (L-10)

ToastyToast

- 2 - AlmasterGM, RedCoyote - (L-9)

Players not voting: Bastard Bros

In reality, you haven't done ANYTHING, which is what makes you scummy.

[GreyICE]

Yes, that AND those things I said (vote and overly cautious). As in, in addition to. Is it that hard to understand?

Ludi, what is the difference between C-Worl's vote and DeityKabuto's vote? I think DK's is even worse, but they're both bad.
In fact:
VOTE: DeityKabuto

Or when you circled back after wagoning Ludi

Hmm.
I am in that [redacted] game.
These posts are so different from Ludi.
I change my mind.

Unvote

VOTE: Deity Kabuto
I need to re-read this game asap.

Not impressed Amrun. Not impressed.

[DeityKabuto]

In reality, you haven't done ANYTHING, which is what makes you scummy.

You are wrong. I am dealing with you. Right now my reads on you say... Confused Townie (VI), or scum.

It does not make a person scummy for not scumhunting, not everyone can play the "predator" or else their would be little to no prey, and things would be hectic. But in the long-run, sometimes the "prey" sees behind the "predators" actions and takes a step forward.

[Amrun]

Yes, everyone should scumhunt and that's what's throwing me off. You're proud of not scumhuting, but even when I've seen you as bad town, you scumhunted. Badly, but you did do it.

And in this game I've seen you reverse on that issue. It makes me think that what's really reversed is your alignment.

Grey: I don't care.

[DeityKabuto]

Yes, everyone should scumhunt and that's what's throwing me off. You're proud of not scumhuting, but even when I've seen you as bad town, you scumhunted. Badly, but you did do it.

And in this game I've seen you reverse on that issue. It makes me think that what's really reversed is your alignment.

Grey: I don't care.

*sigh*

More meta.

Like I said, you do not have any good reasons for claiming me scum as how I haven't done anything scummy, in general.

But right now, I am curious as how scum may use this as an opportunity to pressure you, self-note.

[elvis_knits]

Amrun,

Please comment on the game mechanic and how you feel it should be used. Should we duel once today, twice? Who should be in those duels? Give more concrete opinions on people. Don't let meta be your primary (I'm okay with secondary, but not primary and sole reasoning).

xoxo,
Elvis

[Amrun]

I already commented on that long ago. I think Juls' plan is the way to go, with the L-2 modification.

And I'm p sure duels end the day, with the possible exception of gammagooey, so we can't have 2 duels per day.

[elvis_knits]

Well we can have two today. Do you want to use them both? Who should be in them?

Still waiting on opinions that don't rely solely on vague meta reasons.

[Amrun]

I think Juls and gammagooey should be the non-scummy side of the duels, if we use them today.

I think our reads are bound to be more accurate later on, even day 2, so we should wait with the double duels. In fact, doesn't gamma need to win a duel first anyway?

I have said I am going to re-read the whole game with several things in mind and I am sure I will have more firm reads after that, but I've been phone posting all day and very busy. It's not going to happen right this second.

[RayFrost]

I thought Vi was having a sincere restriction here because she doesn't tend to be deliberately annoying but...

"idiot input" is my hobby and job.

Post 98

This(C-Worl) and this(Vi) read like made up post restrictions to me.

There is a clear inconsistency here.
Also you see them as null tells that don't point to thier alignment in any way even though you think C-Worl and maybe Vi are making them up? Then why mention it?

Read the bolded bro. It's a joke. I joke about stuff. I know I know... mafia r srs bznz. - I mention it because 1) I like giving idiot input and 2) I don't want to deal with c-worl aking a post restriction when his play from my experience is already inherently not that good.

And while you are it please explain why GreyICE is 'bad town' and you want himself and AGM to stop arguing?
I'm probably tunneling at this stage but what are you referring to by almost as terrible as Ludi?
Do you think C-Worl is mafia or not? And if Ludi is 'terrible' (I'm assuming this means scummy) then why did you change your vote?

I've a history with GreyICE. Well... sorta. Two recent games. He's cock sure of himself 24/7 and pretty much says "LOLNOPE" in reaction to people that disagree with him. Both games we've had together he was town so my meta's a tad incomplete but so far he's shown the same attitude as in the two games: "I'm right you're wrong so I'm not listening" - consistent behavior with his other two games. That said... anyone with scum-meta willing to say if this matches his scum meta as well?

C-worl / Ludi / Unicorn Madness = scum. I just can't decide on which one's more important. C-worl's scum for ridonculous accusations tied with completely insulting and terrible reasoning along with saying essentially nothing about the game aside from "lololol agm + greyice scumz0r"

You already know my ludi stuff. Suffice to say my reasoing on UM will reveal itself... in time.

By the way RC's suggestions for the duel against gamma seem a little too close to the easy route for me. With the exception of B bros(whom I never played with before) I probably could of told you before the game that the other 3 people he suggested would be early suspects.

Hi.

[RayFrost]

Amrun's posting is bad in the "I completely disagree with your assessment of this player but I can kinda see where you are coming from" kind of way. In contrast with our scumhunting machine (lolVi) I have a slightly town read on amrun. She's actually putting some effort into this even if she doesn't seem to be paying enough attention to everything.

Deity's posting is bad in the "is he going to say something useful soon" kind of way. Deity... reads on people

not named amrun

. Sometime within the next century. Thanks.

[AlmasterGM]

I'm trying to keep an open mind. Myko can't be the only scum.

Agreed, but you aren't just pointing out other scumtells and generating a list of scum. You specifically appeal to people to forge a new wagon on someone else, which is basically saying, "Now stop looking there...and look over here!"

Hey AGM, time to bus your buddy.

Why is she my buddy, specifically?

TIER IV - Null leaning Town
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-ToastyToast

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[(catch (exception read-not-justified) 
 (System.out.printline("Please explain your read on PLAYERNAME")
 ]

[RayFrost]

I can't say I like how E_K is handling amrun on this page. Whether it's scum coaching a buddy (slightly unlikely to me) or scum buddying (slightly more likely) is ytbd.

[RayFrost]

I'm having a really really hard time getting an alignment read on Vi at this point and I am starting to get edgey about how Iece is focusing 90% of his posts on explaining the flavor behind his ludi suspicion.

Iece:

Do you have

any

reads aside from ludi?

This game has too many people that are focusing all their attention on one target and ignoring everybody else. Stop it.

[Vi]

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RayFrost 335 regarding Amrun... Town read derived from effort understandable. Confidence in Amrun's competence overrides this factor.

AlmasterGM 336... ToastyToast 295 indicates Town. Playing back...

I hate this. You are using my friendship with Andrius to me look like scum. I assure you are playing styles are totally different. Also, never said I loved them (AGM and Vi, i'm still pissed about Cowboy). Go look for my scum-game and see if you think the same. Don't act like you have some insider-information because you know how Andrius plays--you don't.

Recollection invoked of ToastyToast being lynchalicious (Cowboy Bebop Remix). ToastyToast deemed a favorable lynch by scummy players.

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System... Avatar is now appropriate.

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[Amrun]

What does that mean? You think I'm incompetent?

[RayFrost]

She thinks you're too competent for the reason I think you're town to be valid.

[Amrun]

I couldn't tell which way that comment was supposed to fall.

I still want Vi to answer my question:

What makes my "excuse" a scumtell but not Deity Kabuto's?

[GreyICE]

Hey AGM, time to bus your buddy.

Why is she my buddy, specifically?

Oh right, this could be two teams. Fair point. I'd hate to lynch you for being the

wrong sort

of scum. That'd be downright rude


@RayFrost: Bad meta again, I ignore stuff town or scum. Also I don't ignore people, I just ignore silly ideas. Lynching Fatso was a silly idea because he was obvtown. Lynching danaspot was a silly idea, same. I bounced ideas off quite a few people, and I remember following your hydra after I poked you enough to confirm the alignment.

I'm actually kind of impressed that none of the wagons are silly except the ToastyToast one.

[Vi]

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Amrun 342... Acting like you're trying to scumhunt and complaining about failing != not acting like you're trying to scumhunt and complaining about failing.

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[Gammagooey]

Oh hey so I'm done driving and I'm rereading this whole game

AND SUDDENLY I'M NOT TERRIBLE AT IT ANYMORE.

Each [context-scum team] probably interact favorably with duels somehow

Explain why you think this please.

You guys all get presents in the form of reads once I'm done with the rest of this.

[Iecerint]

@RF -- If I had to support another wagon, it would be the wagon on elvis. I didn't understand the wagon on myko, and I don't think Amrun is scum, either; she's doing the same logic-checking that gave me good feelings about her in Follow The Cop AFAICT. (Oddly, though, I didn't get the same <3town<3 vibes from her until I just did a reread.) On the other hand, she's also not really townhunting the way townAmrun did in that game....

Basically, I have some other suspicions, but those have lots of "well, it could be X..." dependencies attached to them. I feel much more confident about Ludi.

[RayFrost]

@RayFrost: Bad meta again, I ignore stuff town or scum. Also I don't ignore people, I just ignore silly ideas. Lynching Fatso was a silly idea because he was obvtown. Lynching danaspot was a silly idea, same. I bounced ideas off quite a few people, and I remember following your hydra after I poked you enough to confirm the alignment.

And here you actually prove my

real

meta on you... totally.

[Amrun]

Oh, Iecerint. I have townreads. Is it really worth it to share them? I don't think so, unless it becomes relevant.

[RayFrost]

Any read given is better than no read given.