Open 307-Friends and Enemies Deadly Alliance-Town Wins!!

[Toro]

Seriously, I'm baffled, what's everybody's cases on me again?

[[Low Key]]

Here are excerpts from my notes:

1) Says Muffin is scummy regardless of DK's flip (?) (+scum)
2) Discourages D1 vig and advocates D3 vig instead! (*scum).
3) Case fishes my second vote after DK is vigged + question dodge. (+scum).
4) Answers D3 question for CJ (??).

I think it was post #188 that absolutely screamed scum from you. That's just off the top of my head, not a formal case or anything.

[[Low Key]]

I mean your overall profile replacing in was to throw up a fluff player analysis, jump on the biggest BW to tunnel it and set up a chain mislynch. I wasn't impressed.

[hiphop]

Prodding Archaist

[DeityKabuto]

Seriously, I'm baffled, what's everybody's cases on me again?

Major Wall

^ My case on you, nothing has changed.

I am getting a null scum read on you.

[[Low Key]]

Its not like we need a case though because you aren't getting lynched.

[[Low Key]]

This is

Deadly Alliance

baby!

[Toro]

Here are excerpts from my notes:

1) Says Muffin is scummy regardless of DK's flip (?) (+scum)

When Muffin said he wouldn't want to lynch a claimed goon that's what I found scummy about him at the time (and I wasn't the only one who thought so.) While at school today I've been thinking about it more and more and I've actually been thinking about retracting my vote on DK because of the whole DK/Muffin pairing that I've put together. Put 2-and-2 together and you'll know why.

2) Discourages D1 vig and advocates D3 vig instead! (*scum).

Did I not change my opinion on this shortly afterwards? I realized that scum would have the opportunity to off the vig every single night until it's used. It'd be better off being able to utilize it on D1 instead of having the chance of losing it forever right off the bat in N1.

fishes my second vote after DK is vigged + question dodge. (+scum).

I was merely asking (in other words) who was the next highest on your scumlist.

4) Answers D3 question for CJ (??).

I wouldn't say I answered it for him, I was just throwing my opinion into the ring over what you guys were talking about.

I mean your overall profile replacing in was to throw up a fluff player analysis, jump on the biggest BW to tunnel it and set up a chain mislynch. I wasn't impressed.

I had genuine reasons that DK was scum, with even bigger reasons supporting why I thought he is scum that I posted later. As of now I'm more inclined to believe that DK just might be a VI.

Unvote

Vote: cjdrum

^ My case on you, nothing has changed.

I am getting a null scum read on you.

In your wall you had me down as null, if nothing's changed I'd still just be a nullread. What am I? A null-read or a scum-read DK?

[DeityKabuto]

In your wall you had me down as null, if nothing's changed I'd still just be a nullread. What am I? A null-read or a scum-read DK?

A null scum read, how some of us see it, you play like a scum or a confused townie. o.O

[[Low Key]]

Wow you actually voted CJ

Amazing what the pressure of the crosshairs will do.

[Toro]

Wow you actually voted CJ

Amazing what the pressure of the crosshairs will do.

You saw my reasoning right?

[[Low Key]]

Well the reasoning I recall more strongly indicates you are scum (the fact that he tried to delay the use of the vig and confirm that it was in the hands of town) because you both were guilty of it, it lends more credence to your lie about not purposely dodging my question to you when I brought it up (#3 from my list) and implicates you as scum for answering the question about D3 usage for him.

Was that the reasoning you were indicating?

[popsofctown]

LowKey what specifically do you want to hear from me?

[[Low Key]]

@Toro: You ever see that movie where there are these two guys and they are called into the office of the mob boss and they're standing on plastic? You know the movie I'm talking about?

[[Low Key]]

LowKey what specifically do you want to hear from me?

Well your reads of each player. You haven't done that yet.

[popsofctown]

@@@Snarky:

DK and Toro go off to visit Mars. Who would your next scum pick be and why?

[popsofctown]

Oh. Yeah, I don't do those. They're anti-town. Only my top few scum picks matter to the town. My townreads don't help us lynch scum, they'll do little to protect the person and will work the same as me waiting to defend that player at L-1. Townreads do help scum know who to kill, though. So I don't point out shining townies or even defend people if they aren't under pain of death pressure.

If the point is to get a better read on me, that's a noble pursuit, but I'm certainly not on the chopping block and there will be plenty of daylight tomorrow. I admit that my vacation had the effect of making me more enigmatic, and I regret that that had to happen.

[[Low Key]]

Ok, then top 3-4 scum suspects please with reasoning.

[Toro]

Well the reasoning I recall more strongly indicates you are scum (the fact that he tried to delay the use of the vig and confirm that it was in the hands of town) because you both were guilty of it, it lends more credence to your lie about not purposely dodging my question to you when I brought it up (#3 from my list) and implicates you as scum for answering the question about D3 usage for him.

Was that the reasoning you were indicating?

For my vote on CJ it was because of the idea he had of the vig not using the ability until Day 3. Once again, how long was I for using the vig until a later day? Not for long at all. The reason why I couldn't answer your question was because it baffled me as well, I didn't write that entire post in order seeing how I had to split my time between finishing the final draft of my research paper (I get out of high school on the 27th) and posting that wall. I didn't answer the question for him, I offered my opinion on when to use the vig ability, if anything I was suggesting that not wanting to use the vig ability D1 seems scummy as it appears as if he's trying to bide some time for scum to kill off the vig. That's my reasoning for my vote.

Did you get my reasoning on why I took the vote off DK though?

@Toro: You ever see that movie where there are these two guys and they are called into the office of the mob boss and they're standing on plastic? You know the movie I'm talking about?

Can't say that I have.

[[Low Key]]

Well the mob boss guy kills one of the guys and the henchmen wrap him up in plastic. The other guy looks down and the boss asks him what he's doing and he replies that he was checking to see if he was standing on plastic (*rimshot*).

I was thinking that you probably feel right now like that guy right about now.

I'm sorry but the only reasoning that I can gather from your unvote is that you are in immediate danger of being vigged and you want to bus your partner in an attempt to save him for a night or two.

[Toro]

Don't you think that'd be a bit obvious though? Me trying to bus CJ? The reason why I unvoted DK was because I think he might have an amigo, if you catch my drift.

[[Low Key]]

Level 1 Obvious.
Level 2 Well since it was obvious it couldn't be true.
Level 3 Well since it would be obvious and couldn't be true, it is true.

You are making a level 2 play and I'm reading it as a level 3.

[[Low Key]]

What I really want to know is how you

really

feel about Snarky. Please don't hold back and give me all the juicy details.

[[Low Key]]

Earlier you mentioned that he had memory problems regarding DK=DietyKabuto, how serious of a scum tell do you think that is?

[[Low Key]]

(Editor's note: Both Snarky and Toro browsed in here after I posted #423 and silence)