00s Band Mafia (Game Over!)

[evilpacman18]

1. Pine's been on town lists all over the place. Obviously I take what other people say with a grain of salt.
2. If you'll take a look at my most recent scumlist I had Pine on there along with a selection of one the 4 impossible to read anti-town players. Chesskid is obvtown, Scumhunter is a claimed Town PR, and Nico slot was confirmed town, albeit by scum so not really.
3. Because when Pine flipped scum it was supposed to clear me. Obviously that backfired.
4. Where in the rules does it say this?

1. You take what people say with a grain of salt? Fair enough, however his interactions with Nintendo doesn't have to do with what people said, you can look it up yourself and see that it's unlikely for him to be scum.
2. K.
3. K. You suspected him strongly D1, why not vig him N1? Also, what's your reasoning behind not using your rolecop then either/
4. Waiting on Slaxx in regards to this but I have NEVER seen a mod allow a player to use more than one ability a night.

1. I don't usually pay attention to that many interactions per-game. Obviously my interactions to pay attention to this time were Pine/C-Worl. I generally like to scumhunt individually cuz interaction scumhunting is so WIFOMy. Just look at what nintendo said at the end of the game.
Anybody could easily argue that it was a harmless comment, an attempted defense of me, or a ruse to get me lynched by making you think it was an attempted defense of me. Or look at how WIFOMy his clear on Magua is.

[evilpacman18]

I wouldn't get vigged because I wasn't that scummy.

You expected a vig to be in the game when you had a one-shot vig yourself?

Expect? No. Ran through the possibilities in my head? Yes.

[evilpacman18]

I didn't rolecop N1. My reads weren't strong enough to use a 1-shot like that and I assumed I wouldn't get killed by scum because I was already on some scumdars but I wouldn't get vigged because I wasn't that scummy. Nice thing about being in the middle. Obviously didn't work for Hiraki but...

Continue ignoring Regfan.

So why did you not rolecop N2?

I've answered this.

[Magua]

No, you answered why you didn't do it N1.

But that answer's not applicable for N2, because you obviously had strong scumreads, etc, you were willing to kill over. So why did you not rolecop along with your roleblock and kill?

[evilpacman18]

No, you answered why you didn't do it N1.

But that answer's not applicable for N2, because you obviously had strong scumreads, etc, you were willing to kill over. So why did you not rolecop along with your roleblock and kill?

Post 642, #3.

[Magua]

Post 642, #3.

The point of rolecopping isn't to *clear* you, it's to give *you* more information. You rolecop someone, they come up vanilla, later they claim to be doctor or something, you know they're lying. Or you rolecop someone and they come up doctor, you know there's a doctor in the game, they come up vigilante, you can be pretty damn sure they're clear, things like that.

So, again, why did you not rolecop last night?

[evilpacman18]

Post 642, #3.

The point of rolecopping isn't to *clear* you, it's to give *you* more information. You rolecop someone, they come up vanilla, later they claim to be doctor or something, you know they're lying. Or you rolecop someone and they come up doctor, you know there's a doctor in the game, they come up vigilante, you can be pretty damn sure they're clear, things like that.

So, again, why did you not rolecop last night?

Jesus Christ, man. I know information is nice but is it really that hard to jump to a VERY EASY conclusion here? Because I wanted to see the results of tonight. I was pretty sure about Pine and that went all wrong so now I can revise my reads and still have some power left to check how my changed reads are doing compared to my old reads. I saved it for a fallback, which was clearly a good idea.

[Pine]

Vote: EPM

I don't buy it.

[Magua]

Jesus Christ, man. I know information is nice but is it really that hard to jump to a VERY EASY conclusion here? Because I wanted to see the results of tonight. I was pretty sure about Pine and that went all wrong so now I can revise my reads and still have some power left to check how my changed reads are doing compared to my old reads. I saved it for a fallback, which was clearly a good idea.

No. Vig first, rolecop later is the mindset of someone who vigs N1. Which you didn't. That means more cautious play. More cautious play means rolecop first, vig second.

Anyawys, you're getting lynched. I actually really don't care what slaxx has to say, but I'm feeling talkative and all conversational-like, so I'm holding off, but, yeah, I'm going to vote you at some point.

If you get lynched and flip Town JOAT, which, frankly, would slap my ass and call me Sally, then we'll lynch C-Worl tomorrow. 1:1 is a good trade.

But, if you instead flip scum, then I implore someone, for the love of god, to just vig DemonHybrid tonight. If by some strange coincidence there's a town poisoner, poison Chesskid tonight. Don't bother poisoning DemonHybrid in this case, cause, y'know, we're just going to lynch him.

I suppose there could be a surprise twist and you flip SK or something. But I kind of doubt it due to the lack of kills N1 and N2.

[Scumhunter]

saving a cop investigation makes no sense to me, but using the other 2 makes even less sense. I'd probably be most likely to use a cop check first followed by the vig and lastly the roleblock if I made it to late game with that power set. Also, I was mostly joking about Magua being scum. If we are talking about really crazy theories...what if mafia can revive a vanilla townie and make them scum? Kind of like a failed comeback tour post 00s? Slaxx definitely has skillz as a mod to do something like that.

unvote, vote EPM

You are off the hook today Magua.

[Pine]

^I like this post (PE:658). Still waiting for you to post your read of C-Worl.

Whether or not multiple powers can be used in a night is, frankly, irrelevant. The people saying that's not possible are flat-out wrong. I'm approaching just my three month anniversary on this site and I've already been in multiple games where that was standard. It proves nothing and disproves nothing, unless Slaxx says it isn't possible. EPM-scum wouldn't claim it unless it were true, and neither would EPM-Town.

[evilpacman18]

When slaxx says I'm allowed to do it, how will you all react?

[DemonHybrid]

I'm still waiting for Slaxx's answer before I process ANY of this.

[evilpacman18]

I'm at L-1

[Pine]

I'll be unsurprised and unchanged, EPM. It means nothing. The fact that you seem to think that would clear you is more evidence against you. You're more concerned with survival than with scumhunting.

[Magua]

When slaxx says I'm allowed to do it, how will you all react?

By voting you.

So who's your scumreads now?

Unofficial Vote Count

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

evilpacman18 (6): chesskid3, tarsonisoceot, Regfan, diddin, Pine, Scumhunter
C-worl (1): evilpacman18

Not voting (6): Gaoth, Magua, Gorilla, Parabollocks, C-worl, Demonhybrid

[Regfan]

Actually

Unvote

, still think he's scum just don't want a possible self-hammer to occur before everyone posts today.

[Magua]

@Pine:

If EPM is scum, then DemonHybrid is scum and C-worl is town.

@Regfan:

But if he self hammers I don't have to reread.

[Scumhunter]

Who cares if hes town? That just means Diddin + Pine are both scum. ZZZ.

[DemonHybrid]

@Pine:

If EPM is scum, then DemonHybrid is scum and C-worl is town.

Alright, you've said this about a million times now. As if you're psychologically wired to say it.

Why?

[Pine]

@Slaxx: Can you clarify how I died? Was it actually poison, or was that simply flavor? Flavor's not supposed to mean anything, and "poison" does.

PE: The above by Scumhunter is a HUGE reach, as it requires alignment-changing mechanics to be in play, which are generally very unpopular.

[Magua]

Alright, you've said this about a million times now. As if you're psychologically wired to say it.

Why?

CHESSKID

@Slaxx:

Theme game. Flavor means whatever the mod wants it to mean.

[Magua]

EBWOP: @Pine, not @Slaxx, obv.

[Scumhunter]

Regfan, you are not going to be able to change this wagon. Go ahead and bus and accept your loss sir.

Pine, I'm mostly joking, re: you + diddin + Magua.

[evilpacman18]

When slaxx says I'm allowed to do it, how will you all react?

By voting you.

So who's your scumreads now?

Unofficial Vote Count

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

evilpacman18 (6): chesskid3, tarsonisoceot, Regfan, diddin, Pine, Scumhunter
C-worl (1): evilpacman18

Not voting (6): Gaoth, Magua, Gorilla, Parabollocks, C-worl, Demonhybrid

TO / C-Worl / ??? (diddin?)