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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 6:15 pm

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Hiraki wrote:FFS.

WHEN BOTH DEAD TOWN SUSPECT ONE PLAYER, SOMETHING IS UP.

If Rhinox is scum, then scum killed Umbrage who suspected him, who is at best a possible town PR, instead of killing you and getting the two-for-one deal. Meaning they would give up TWO chances to kill the all-town lover pair to kill a claimed VT and Umbrage? Hell no. Hell no hell no hell no.

ReaperCharlie wrote:Interesting. I don't see any attempt to verify whether or not Hiraki can confirm Zodiark's lovers-claim. I see that he wanted Zodiark lynched yesterday IN SPITE OF THAT, and what's even worse is that in his Charlie/RC/Zod scumteam call, he fails to mention Hiraki at all. Even though they are claimed lovers together. Not sure if he's reaction-fishing or what, but... Nacho is just being dumbtown right now.

Okay. The lovers claim doesn't matter at all. No matter what Hiraki said, Zod would still be my preferred lynch. Why the hell would I care?

Reaper wrote:Now, a Charlie/RC scumteam in a Charlie the Unicorn game would be awesome and lulzy, but sadly it wasn't meant to be. Interestingly enough, I am actually thinking Charlie and Stefunny are scum together, with a possible Rhinox as the third buddy. One kill and one kill only last night suggest that there's no SK, but you never know what with doc protections and possible roleblocks and whatnot.

Wouldn't be surprised if scum tried to shoot me last night.
And failed, of couse.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 7:05 pm

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Zodiark wrote:Wow, epic buddying right out of the gate.

Pulindar tried to convince you to replace out so I could replace in.
Obviously there's some history between us, and obviously there's going to be friendliness.
Is there any scum motivation? No. You painting it as such is reaching.

Zodiark wrote:Care to actually explain?

Is there a need?

Zodiark wrote:This reads like scum replacing in and, after having looked at the scum QT and seen that scum decided to push a lynch against me, jumps onto me on almost nothing.

It's highly unlikely that scum have daytalk based on Hayl's rules.
And the theory that the scumteam would plan to push your lynch pregame smells a little bit like aluminum.

Re: Changing reads: I was reading through the game. Thus, my reads changes as people acted townier/scummier.

Zodiark wrote:Nice misrep, but no. I'm pushing tans here for trying to break the game in an, if not scum then certainly anti-town way.

Break the game? How?

Zodiark wrote:Scumhunting is not all there is to the game.

For town, there is nothing else.

Zodiark wrote:In what dimension is this market you speak of? Is it the dimension where everything tans has done this game is seen as pro-town, where jesters and cults are universally liked, and where Chesskid is considered as good a poster as Vi is in this one? And if its such a strong scumtell, how come you didn't realise it when you mentioned it a few posts ago?

The second quoted bit was from my catchup, which was mostly little notes to myself.
The first quoted bit was from the case on you, which purposely used stronger language so it would be able to convince.

Zod wrote:Again, nice misrep, but no. I'll explain in small words, just for you. I'm not trying to buddy up with Hiraki because I don't wont to be lynched. I'm saying Hiraki is most likely town because he isn't. Also, note that by claiming I'm buddying up to my lover, you accept my lover claim, and can now call backpeddeling if you try to BS the claim. Nice one.

I'm guessing you mean Hiraki is most likely town because he is. But that still doesn't make sense because you don't give reasoning.
And I've always accepted your lover claim...?

Zod wrote:Claim means nothing. Until the flip at least. Inside knowledge that tans is a VT? Lolscum.

He claimed VT. I had a town read on him. Naturally, logic points to him being VT.
I mean, I can slow down for you if you want but this is pretty elementary.

Zod wrote:So its not rolefishing, or reaching, at all to say theres a protective role, but it is to state the obvious and say that you can't know that unless you are a backup protector?

The Rules wrote:1: Expect the Unexpected.

Things aren't always so obvious.
But, no, it isn't rolefishing because I'm not telling him/her to come on out.
No, it's not reaching because there's usually protective roles in mafia games.
It is rolefishing if you say "YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT UNLESS YOU ARE ROLE XXX". Because then I either claim Role xxx, or I'm scum and I get lynched. Mull about that one for a while.

Zodiark wrote:And the purpose of these posts is what again? A vote and then some BS speculation about who the scumteam is? Yeah, scratch that post about me being worried about the flip after this, we got scum here.

Oh god.
This is terrible.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 7:07 pm

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ReaperCharlie wrote:Zodiark is town, wtf.

RC, you haven't read the thread and yet you're THIS adamantly against the Zodiark lynch? Either you're a scumbuddy looking for WIFOM-tasticness, or you're scum white-knighting a townie. Either way, you can die. And then we can lynch Zodiark.

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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 7:33 pm

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......

Zodiark is claimed lovers with Hiraki. It's
highly
unlikely that either are scum.

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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 7:37 pm

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Right.
Because there's no such thing as a treacherous lover...? And you're clearing Zodiark because "lovers aren't scum", even though you were attacking Charlie earlier because he stated that people with post restrictions were inherently town for the same reasoning you're using now...?
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 7:47 pm

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No. Your argument is invalid. Zod is town. Charlie is scum. Shun accordingly.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 7:55 pm

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ReaperCharlie wrote:No. Your argument is invalid. Zod is town. Charlie is scum. Shun accordingly.

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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2011 11:36 pm

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Nacho. You're not doing so well here.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 3:47 am

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Actually, Nacho makes a good point about RC. It's okay for him to assume things are unlikely, but not for Charlie to do the same? And then his sole defense is
ReaperCharlie wrote:No. Your argument is invalid. Zod is town. Charlie is scum. Shun accordingly.

I'm not 100% read up on the thread yet, this just stuck out at me. Off to work and when I get back I will catch up.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 4:11 am

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Read the whole conversation first, Stef. He wants to lynch a claimed lover, who's been confirmed by his counterpart. i.e. killing both. I'm not sure if this is a scum ploy to try to look like a REALLY stupid townie, or what. If it is, it's not working. And either way, it's not helping anything.

Nacho needs to stfu about Zodiark being scum. Zodiark and Hiraki are not scum. It's pretty much guaranteed.
Still though, for the sake of completeness: Zod/Hiraki, are you confirmed Town to each other?
If the answer is yes, then they're either BOTH town, or BOTH scum.

Also: Moar Charlie votes! :mad:
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 4:39 am

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Oh you!
Stop attacking me and concentrate your efforts elsewhere, please. Take Stefunny out of the picture as well, and work with what's left.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 4:51 am

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RC:
Zodiark13 iso 21 wrote:I'm a Lover with Hiraki. Thing is, neither of us know the others alignment.

you're never allowed to say anything about others not reading the thread ever again.

Nacho is making a lot of good points. Specifically this:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Right.
Because there's no such thing as a treacherous lover...? And you're clearing Zodiark because "lovers aren't scum", even though you were attacking Charlie earlier because he stated that people with post restrictions were inherently town for the same reasoning you're using now...?



And this:
Nachomamma8 wrote:...scum killed Umbrage who suspected him, who is at best a possible town PR, instead of killing you and getting the two-for-one deal. Meaning they would give up TWO chances to kill the all-town lover pair to kill a claimed VT and Umbrage? Hell no. Hell no hell no hell no.



Of the lovers I still think Hiraki is more likely to be scum than Zod, but since a lynch on one kills the other I'm fine with voting either - a vote on one is also a vote on the other, essentially.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 5:19 am

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Rhinox wrote:RC:
Zodiark13 iso 21 wrote:I'm a Lover with Hiraki. Thing is, neither of us know the others alignment.

you're never allowed to say anything about others not reading the thread ever again.

LOOOOOL :oops:

Rhinox wrote:Of the lovers I still think Hiraki is more likely to be scum than Zod, but since a lynch on one kills the other I'm fine with voting either - a vote on one is also a vote on the other, essentially.

Are you reasonably convinced that at least one of them is scum? If not, this plan is ... you know, bad?

Nachomamma8 wrote:...scum killed Umbrage who suspected him, who is at best a possible town PR, instead of killing you and getting the two-for-one deal. Meaning they would give up TWO chances to kill the all-town lover pair to kill a claimed VT and Umbrage? Hell no. Hell no hell no hell no.

Wait. Oh yeah. I totally forgot about this.

f*ck. I totally fail at this game. Like, epically. LOL
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 5:20 am

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Posting again because I can't believe how fail I am.

Obv scum is obv.

Question is now, do we lynch one today? Or save them for LYLO? or what.

I'm not going to give my opinion because obviously I am uber fail.

I need to go rethink my life. LOL
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 8:58 am

Post by Hiraki »

Oh hi Rhinox!

Thanks for coming back!

Now die.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 9:30 am

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Hiraki wrote:Oh hi Rhinox!

Thanks for coming back!

Now die.

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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 11:40 am

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I’m just going to write this in English, punish me if you want to. I’m too angry to bother with google translate.

My computer just died on me (I’m writing this on my sister’s sucky laptop) and it’ll take a few days to get it back to working. On top of that I have entrance exams on Tuesday/Wednesday, so
I’m going to be V/LA at least until Thursday
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Unamused. But fine <_< I guess I'll allow V/LA posts in English. ~ Hayl
ESL, might make mistakes. Sorry.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 11:52 am

Post by Haylen »

Shun Count
:
Rhinox: Hiraki
Zodiark: Pulindar
Charlie: Reapercharlie, Stefunny
Nachomamma: Zodiark
ReaperCharlie: Nachomamma

Not being a shunning bastard: Everyone else.

Deadline:
Thursday 5th June 9pm BST
Votes to lynch:
6/10
Prods:

Notes:
Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.

My prefered pronoun set is "cie/cir/cirs[elf]" but they is more than acceptable.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu May 26, 2011 12:02 pm

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V/LA this weekend.

May be able to post Friday.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 am

Post by Pulindar »

Prologue

Sorry for being inactive. My Internet has been down due to all the storms in Cleveland. My phone allowed me to check in, but it was too difficult to really post
Pulindar & NachoNacho replaced into my first newbie game with me. Where as town I completely missed the deadline (Internet was down when I was in L.A.) and we lost in LyLo. After that we played two or three games together and every time based on a couple of posts Nacho could tell whether I was scum or not.
In fact he even pmed me about a few games I played without him where he Isoed me to say what my alignment was. He was never wrong. Apparently, I have a strong meta. I don't know what it is, but he does. I guess it's just the difference between my actual scum hunting and my not hunting. I dont know.
side notes1. Tans claimed VT right after krypten first posted. It wasn't an actual solid claim, but he breadcrumbed it. Also, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that when you were all voting him. The lack of thorough reading is really starting to bother me.

2. During my case against Zod back on day one I said that I felt RC and Zod were buddying. I still think Zod's the scummier of the two. The points Nacho has made have only enhanced that feeling. Like you said though, if feels like RC is trying to protect Zod.

3. Some things Stef had said, combined with my introduction flavor to the game made me suspect her as scum. But she's recovering well I think. I'm having trouble reading her though.

4. I feel that a lack of questions are killing this game and making activity sink. I have yard work to do, but will be back with questions for everyone.

Epilogue
My vote stays on Zod for the time being. I think that's what we should do today. Will make a new case on him in a different post after the questions. If it isn't a pretty strong one then I will look for another person to vote. Keeping someone you're almost positive is scum til LyLo when you don't know the scum team makeup so don't know when LyLo is, is probably one of the worst ideas I have heard.
"If I had to label someone as dangerous, it'd be Pulindar. I have a feeling his scum game is very similar to his town game.... What I think is dangerous about Pulindar is that his scumreads feel so liquid. He can post a wall of questions and decide he doesn't like your answer to one of them and justify a vote on you." ~ Prawneater
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2011 4:57 am

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I have problems getting Internet access on a desktop and reading/posting on a mobile is a pain in the neck. I'll contribute after fixing it.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2011 5:54 am

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Pulindar wrote:During my case against Zod back on day one I said that I felt RC and Zod were buddying. I still think Zod's the scummier of the two. The points Nacho has made have only enhanced that feeling. Like you said though, if feels like RC is trying to protect Zod.

Yeah except: If I'm scum, what does it benefit me to protect Zodiark? NOTHING.

1.
If he's
scum
and I'm
town
, then I'm STUPID and DUMB and stuff. Obviously however, this is not the case, as I am clearly ASTUTE and REASONABLE and HANDSOME... (which does not include either STUPID -OR- DUMB).

2.
If he's
town
and I'm
scum
(trying to whiteknight or w/e Nacho said), WHAT'S THE POINT? I could have gotten an easy mislynch on Day 1 by just switching my vote. Now what I have is a bunch of people saying I'm trying to protect Zod when it's really just that he's obvtown. If I was scum, I would have hammered. Trust me.

3.
If we are
scum together
and I'm protecting my scumbuddy/GF/etc, it's too OBVIOUS. Also, I'm not STUPID; see #1. There is clearly no advantage to linking us like this if we were scumbuddies. Also, there's the Hiraki thing. Unless you think the scum team is RC/Zod/Hiraki (hint, it's not), then saying Zodiark is scum CLEARLY makes no sense.

...

Which leaves only
4.
We are
both town
and whoever wants to lynch him (or me) is either retarded or just being obstinate.

It's really not that complicated..
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2011 6:12 am

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Pulindar wrote:My Internet has been down due to all the storms in Cleveland.


Those were some nasty storms. Which suburb?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri May 27, 2011 10:56 am

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RHINOX.

GAME TIME.

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