What I don't understand, from both Yossy and Furry:
1) The vote count is crap and you should know this. I was the first one to vote Surye and I'm listed after IS. Kison voted Surye in 543, which is after Hez (526). Vezok should technically be a lot later in the line-up because he unvoted and revoted later on. Also note how the mods failed to see both Hez's 526 and Kison's 543. Primate actually voted Surye in 648, which is before CES and Fur, but because he only mentioned it later, he got plugged it elsewhere. So the correct order is, I believe:
Surye (13) - (Zindaras, Internet Stranger, vezokpiraka, HezLucky, Kison, Primate, Cogito Ergo Sum, Furcolow, AGar, DeathNote, Kublai Khan, LlamaFluff, ReaperCharlie) (I've kept Vezok where he was despite his later short unvote/revote)
With all the missed votes and problems we've had with counts, you decide to just go with an analysi
2) Since when did leading a wagon become scummier than hopping on one? I see no analysis of actual arguments. Yossy's original statement was nothing but "for the sake of argument, let's assume there's scum leading the wagon". Well, fine, I can accept that for the sake of argument, but that's nothing to base a vote on.
3) There's no actual reason to believe that people leading the Surye wagon were scum. The original Surye wagon (especially the first three votes) were in reaction to the Vezok (town) wagon. Now, I could see more of where you're going if Furry is scum, but even then the analysis would only work for the people who hopped on at a later stage because the leading votes were there way before there even was a Furcolow wagon.
4) There's no actual reason to single out the Surye wagon. We have a perfectly fine other wagon on a Townie (the Vezok wagon) and yet somehow this isn't interesting to you. Let's look:
vezokpiraka (7) - (SensFan, DeathNote,
Surye
, Albert B. Rampage, Medicated Lain, Porochaz, Yosarian2)
Since, statistically speaking, the odds of there being no scum on this wagon are extremely slim, there must be scum on this wagon. Let's just lynch them all until we find scum!
5) Statistically speaking, it's highly unlikely that all the players with Y's in their names are town. Hence, we should now lynch the rest of this list until we find scum:
3. ReaperCharlie (replacing fuzzylightning)
10. HezLucky
12. MrBuddyLee
20. Yosarian2
23. GummyBear (quadz/singer hydra)
6) The timing of votes is completely ignored. I'm pretty sure my vote was on Surye for two weeks before it became a significant wagon.
I find this just plain scummy from both Yosarian and Furcolow. For Yosarian, it's basing a vote completely on something that can hardly be called wagon analysis, forgoing the analysis of arguments of the people on the wagon and the timing of votes, preferring to attack leaders instead of mindless sheep and focusing completely on one town-wagon when there were two yesterday (and, not surprisingly, he ignores the wagon he led himself, which also defeats his own argument of there having to be scum leading the wagon). For Furcolow, it's simply the extreme irony that he's actually finding people scummy for founding the wagon he mindlessly sheeped on to save his own pathetic life. Yesterday he got all moany about me for "attacking" him (which I hadn't even done by the time he voted me and I only did so because he voted me, which makes him quite the psychically gifted, plus really good at fixing time paradox problems), and today he's attacking people for attacking someone else. There's zero consistency in his arguments and his play.
