00s Band Mafia (Game Over!)

[Scumhunter]

unvote, vote DemonHybrid

Can't we lynch some town first?

[DemonHybrid]

Well, I was going to wait until tomorrow to do this, but lets make things easier. If it's Regfan or me, how about neither?

Claim: Town Cop, Green Day. 21 Guns is my vote, Know Your Enemy is my investigate

Hiraki is innocent Night 1, but he died. Regfan is innocent Night 2. Magua is innocent Night 3.

Just for good measure...

I'll

believe EPM's claim for today, though he's by no means confirmed, as he could be a mafia JOAT, but I'm not for lynching him right now.

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an't really bring myself to risk killing off a potential town JOAT; they're really powerful.

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n the other hand, I'll be keeping an eye on him very heavily.

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ersonally, though, I think the band claim gels....not sure about the song names, but I guess that's for future discussion.

EPM

should live today.

My other suspect is still gorilla. I need to check others' avoidance/tunneling of nintendo, so I'll be back with that later.

Too bad he already got lynched and flipped scum.

I'd appreciate if a doctor protected me, if there is one. Follow the cop, yea?

[DemonHybrid]

Also, I've never played as a cop, so if this is a premature claim, sorry. But I really don't think so. Shit is spiraling out of control, so lets contain it before it goes further.

No protecting role has been killed yet, so I suspect there's one still out there.

[DemonHybrid]

2. Gaoth
4. Gorilla
8. Diddin
13. c-worl
14. tarsonisocelot
15. Pine
16. scumhunter

2-3 of these people are the rest of the scum, unless I hit a godfather; but chesskid claimed miller, so there's not a good chance of that, I think.

Please look at reactions from these people from pressure by Magua, chesskid and Regfan.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Gaoth

. You're like "nintendo did this and this and this and this. And it looks scummy.

NULL-TOWN READ!"

Fuck that.

"EPM isn't posting that much content.

STILL, TOTALLY TOWNIE!"

Fuck that.

[DemonHybrid]

Also, the more I think about it, the more I think we CAN play follow the cop in this scenario. Mafia had a roleblocker, possibly to counter town PR claims. A doctor's protect would have been wasted; classic doc-cop setup trap.

If I die tonight, all's well with the world, but any bonus investigate that we get would be awesome.

[Magua]

So, I want to make sure I understand.

- Regfan pushes for Nintendo's lynch D2. Nintendo gets lynched, flips scum. You investigate Regfan?
- Regfan, who you know is inno, pushes EPM's lynch D3. I push EPM's lynch D3. EPM gets lynched, flips scum. You investigate me?

That's seriously your story?

[DemonHybrid]

So, I want to make sure I understand.

- Regfan pushes for Nintendo's lynch D2. Nintendo gets lynched, flips scum. You investigate Regfan?
- Regfan, who you know is inno, pushes EPM's lynch D3. I push EPM's lynch D3. EPM gets lynched, flips scum. You investigate me?

That's seriously your story?

Yep. I wanted to make sure no one's getting away with calculated bussing.

Also, have you not realized that Regfan is one of the top candidates for a lynch today?

[Magua]

Yep. I wanted to make sure no one's getting away with calculated bussing.

Words completely fail me.

Also, have you not realized that Regfan is one of the top candidates for a lynch today?

No, I hadn't realized that, because it's *not true*.

How come after Nintendo got lynched and flipped scum, you didn't go back and look for Nintendo's relationships with other players before submitting your cop investigation on Regfan?

[Scumhunter]

Also, have you not realized that Regfan is one of the top candidates for a lynch today?

Lol awesome.

[Scumhunter]

Magua, I believe the claim, don't you? XD

[DemonHybrid]

Basically, in my experience, the scum leading the lynch of another flipped scum are the hardest to make a case against; they're the ones that usually survive until endgame, and I wanted to prevent, if one of you guys were scum, taking advantage of nintendo's slip or EPM's iffy logic. I didn't post much to avoid getting NKed and I came out of Night 3 in an extremely bad-looking state. I just wanted to get rid of that shitstorm before it grew out of control.

Preview edit: Read the above. You don't ALWAYS have to investigate the scummy ones. In fact, it'd be a waste to do so. You'd out yourself AND waste an investigate to a lynch, or both. If the player flips town, there isn't much you can do. There's a lot more worth investigating the ones that seemed to be on top of the scum lynch pushing just in case it's scum in a competent townie's clothing.

[DemonHybrid]

*If the player shows up as town (like, in the night action return PM)

Sorry, words got jumbled up there.

[Regfan]

1. You laughed at gorilla for suspecting me during day two saying that I'm obv-town, is the fact that I led on mafia really something that turns an obv-town read around, seriously?

2. Magua was clear, why would you check him N3?

3. How come you've failed to eliminate Diddin and Pine from the lynch pool, they're both clear as well.

[Magua]

Magua, I believe the claim, don't you? XD

I'd believe it a thousand times more if he'd investigated you.

Basically, in my experience, the scum leading the lynch of another flipped scum are the hardest to make a case against; they're the ones that usually survive until endgame, and I wanted to prevent, if one of you guys were scum, taking advantage of nintendo's slip or EPM's iffy logic. I didn't post much to avoid getting NKed and I came out of Night 3 in an extremely bad-looking state. I just wanted to get rid of that shitstorm before it grew out of control.

Preview edit: Read the above. You don't ALWAYS have to investigate the scummy ones. In fact, it'd be a waste to do so. You'd out yourself AND waste an investigate to a lynch, or both. If the player flips town, there isn't much you can do. There's a lot more worth investigating the ones that seemed to be on top of the scum lynch pushing just in case it's scum in a competent townie's clothing.

Scumhunter.
Fucking Goath.
Gorilla.

Any of these investigations would've been useful.

Hell, in your list in #778 you have Pine WHO IS MOD CONFIRMED INNOCENT.

And your breadcrumb is that you wanted to let EPM live so that you could cop him...when his lynch was being pushed by one of your innos. What. The. Hell.

Does not compute.

[Magua]

Vote: Gaoth

. You're like "nintendo did this and this and this and this. And it looks scummy.

NULL-TOWN READ!"

Fuck that.

"EPM isn't posting that much content.

STILL, TOTALLY TOWNIE!"

Fuck that.

MAN, IF ONLY YOU HAD SOME WAY OF ASKING THE MOD IF HE WAS INNOCENT OR GUILTY.

[DemonHybrid]

As "obvtown" as Regfan was coming out of nintendo's lynch, 1. nintendo ultimately went down because of his fakeclaim, and 2. there weren't any other flips on the table other than Hiraki and Talapus.

I just wanted to check if the most vocal behind the lynch was town before he could use the lynch to build a defense if he was scum.

Preview edit: Sorry, I forgot to remove Pine.

How is Magua clear? And diddin is FAR from clear. Just because he has an ability that revives vanilla townies (and therefore would be REALLY EASY to clear him to town) doesn't make him confirmed town. You're a novice player if you believe that someone with a power like that is always town; there are roles that mods throw in to create WIFOM and lead people off. Godfather is one. Miller is another. If those exist, then diddin's role could be the same, correct?

Preview edit 2: You aren't listening. Scumhunter, Gaoth and Gorilla are potential suspects. I believed EPM's claim, especially after Slaxx confirmed JOATs being able to perform more than one action a night. That's not something EPM can cook up in an instant, and I thought that his claim would clear him, but I still wanted to be sure.

[Regfan]

As "obvtown" as Regfan was coming out of nintendo's lynch, 1. nintendo ultimately went down because of his fakeclaim, and 2. there weren't any other flips on the table other than Hiraki and Talapus.

I just wanted to check if the most vocal behind the lynch was town before he could use the lynch to build a defense if he was scum.

So instead of uh, you know checking someone that might actually be scum, you check your biggest town-read. That makes sense.

How is Magua clear? And diddin is FAR from clear. Just because he has an ability that revives vanilla townies (and therefore would be REALLY EASY to clear him to town) doesn't make him confirmed town. You're a novice player if you believe that someone with a power like that is always town; there are roles that mods throw in to create WIFOM and lead people off. Godfather is one. Miller is another. If those exist, then diddin's role could be the same, correct?

Nintendos slip cleared Magua, he openely stated to his mafia partners that he copped Magua and found him as VT. Diddin is clear, there's already a two-shot cop and a RB on the scum-team how much power do you expect them to have, seriously?

[Regfan]

This is frustrating.

Now I have to decide if DH has played the worst cop game in the history of mafia, or his fake-claim is just this bad.

[DemonHybrid]

Since the cat is out of the bag I should get this out there so my affiliate(s) can get this info. Don't bother with Magua/Nicodemus slot, it is VT.

And you think that this clears Magua?

You're insulting nintendo. He isn't that fucking dumb.

[Regfan]

And you think that this clears Magua?

You're insulting nintendo. He isn't that fucking dumb.

You have an innocent on Magua, so yes even you should think he is.

[Scumhunter]

"town" supposedly has a reviver. still not convinced diddin's reviver role can't be some sort of scum comeback tour. magua is like 99% clear. i believe this cop claim and all. lol at votes on regfan. i want to see gorilla's case on me btw. who do you suspect Regfan? we probably have 2 scum left correct?

fwiw I believe DH's claim.

[DemonHybrid]

Sure, Magua is cleared NOW, but at the time, I didn't think he would be that dumb. And he isn't. That statement certainly didn't clear him.

[Regfan]

Yeah, I'm not going to bother arguing, if you're town you really have played an incredibly shit game. I'm going to do some re-reading, Magua this is yours to drive.

[DemonHybrid]

Yeah, I'm not going to bother arguing, if you're town you really have played an incredibly shit game. I'm going to do some re-reading, Magua this is yours to drive.

"Oh hey, an outed scum said plainly in the game thread that someone is a VT, and then flipped a scum rolecop! Yeah, that flipped scum is telling the truth!"

"Oh hey, instead of investigating someone who has been vocal behind a scum lynch and might be carefully calculating a bus, investigate someone who is bound to get lynched! That way, you can sit back and watch a confirmed innocent get lynched OR out your role! Sounds good to me!"

Doesn't that sound dumb? Because it's you.