Colour Concentration Mafia (Mini 1174) - Over

[hiphop]

Here's the plan: Ghostlin speaks up, hiphop dies. In that order would be preferable. OK?

no

[StrangerCoug]

Yes. It's possible that what Ghostlin knows will help the town and you've been doing a crappy job at convincing us you should not be getting the rope.

[Glass]

If only I had been paying attention at the time I would've quick hammered so fucking fast.

DOES YOUR HAMMERLUST KNOW NO BOUNDS?
and my vote goes on hiphop/ghost depending on ghost's next post.

[hiplop]

Before anyone lynches anyone, and I just got back from a con so I've not read the hiplop case yet--I've just received information about actions performed during a night phase targetting me. Should I share?

theres no case about me

Are you going to Respond? Or are you stalling?

you stuck out as scum to me, i dont see how thats difficult to comprehend

[hiphop]

Yes. It's possible that what Ghostlin knows will help the town and you've been doing a crappy job at convincing

us

you should not be getting the rope.

Which of us are you talking about? Certainly not you, for you don't have a case. How many people voting me actually have a reason to vote me, and how many of those reason are a bunch of bs. Exactly.

Before anyone lynches anyone, and I just got back from a con so I've not read the hiplop case yet--I've just received information about actions performed during a night phase targetting me. Should I share?

theres no case about me

Are you going to Respond? Or are you stalling?

you stuck out as scum to me, i dont see how thats difficult to comprehend

Is that because there were already 3 votes on me? And you didn't want to be suspected because you want to hide in the shadows? Nice case scum.

So currently I have
xvart
ghost
and hiplop
as the 3 most likely to be scum. And who hasn't posted yet today?

[Packbat]

Meransiel and Leiskyrie.

(I'd like to hear hiplop articulate his case, too. As Emerson said about quoting, "Yet in proportion to your reality of life & perception, will be your difficulty of finding yourself expressed in others' words or deeds." hiplop, why do

you

think hiphop is scum?)

[hiphop]

I have been thinking about this "us" business from strangercoug. I have a huge problem with it, because he didn't say "me". Almost like he isn't controlling his own vote, but putting it where everyone else's vote is. Just like hiplop

fos

Also, since when does someone come in, say I have some important information, and then leave. 6 hours?

unvote
vote ghostlin

[StrangerCoug]

I have been thinking about this "us" business from strangercoug. I have a huge problem with it, because he didn't say "me". Almost like he isn't controlling his own vote, but putting it where everyone else's vote is. Just like hiplop

fos

From what I understand, it works the other way around. By "us", I mean the town, and because "us" by definition includes the person talking my interests are part of the town's. Acting on my interests and my interests alone would set off alarm bells. Your wires are crossed.

And yes, I do have a case on you. I thought you were pretty decent town. After my vote on Packbat, the wagon on you started, and you have been responding very poorly to the pressure from said wagon. You are now throwing crap to see what sticks. Give me a very good reason to go back to my town read on you.

[Jedo the Jedi]

Ghost's information tease does seem suspicious, but at the same time, it's believable to me because I just had a game where I received information like that. We'll just have to judge based on the information itself.

I really don't understand all the stuff going on with hiphop. I've read the ISO, I've read it in context, and it doesn't stand out to me. Then again, I didn't see anything suspicious about Voided and the town was on the money with that one. Apparently, I'm not very good at seeing the micro-slips which are indicative of scumminess.

I'm down with scrutinizing the lurkers and those who just plopped their votes on hiphop with no explanation. I do want to say, however, that lynching hiphop is perfectly acceptable. From what I understand, this game is self-balancing, so town will be on the off-hand until one of us dies. Additionally, I've considered that the power the scum acquired might have been something along the lines of seeing a person's colour. Anyway, I just remembered something I want to go investigate. I'll divulge if it turns out to be correct.

[Rhinocke]

Distancing?

errr... probably not the best word. More like, not openly defending voided, but questioning votes and asking for the case - but not giving his own opinion either way. whatever the word is for that. fencesitting, maybe?

Oh wow, failed at voting.

Vote: Voided

Why?

PROTECT THE SCUM PARTNER!

Meta me, and then tell me when I ever let a vote go by without a reason. For it is just like scum to hop on a bw without a reason.

what about this vote then:

Personally, I hope the first town death is someone in my color group, because I want some powerz.

unvote
vote xvart

Not sure what all the voided nonsense is about, can someone please explain?

Whats the explanation for that?

Also, you must not be reading the thread because:

Oh wow, failed at voting.

Vote: Voided

Why?

OH LOOK like 3 posts back from this:

And voided wagon is a go, for now.

Voided

Lots of mechanism speculation happening, much of which is currently not applicable and distracting.

Ghost, nobody said anything about claiming right now either.

Looks like this is an explanation for a botched vote to me, then in the post you questioned she was just correcting her voting syntax.

So, what I'm seeing isn't that you wanted to question an unexplained vote - its that you saw a vote on your scum partner and you were trying to find a way to undermine the vote.

[Jedo the Jedi]

I don't get it, you quoted that line just because it was the only thing to quote? Why quote anything at all if it has nothing to do with your vote?

He posted, I pushed quote, typed what I wanted to say, then continued on in another window....Finished and I hit submit.

I looked back at hiphop again, and this is what gets to me. The whole xvart vote is strange. He didn't find xvart scummy (there's a post along the lines of "how could he possibly think xvart scummy because he clearly said the first town death" or something), but he voted him anyway which it turns out was RVS. xvart challenges this because we were clearly out of RVS, and hiphop counters by asking when RVS arbitrarily ends. The thing is, he quoted xvart talking about wanting powers and voted him in that same post. If it's RVS, why would you quote that? Usually when people quote then vote it is because they are voting based on what was said there, but you are claiming that is exactly what wasn't happening.

The final question in this Glass quote sums up my thoughts very nicely. Please give a better response to it for me, hiphop.

Preview Edit: I like that last catch by Rhinocke. I had forgotten about that. I'll wait for a response, but my vote is probably going on hiphop.

[hiphop]

Acting on my interests and my interests alone would set off alarm bells.

So your scum, hiding in in with town. Got it, no explanation needed.

errr... probably not the best word. More like, not openly defending voided, but questioning votes and asking for the case - but not giving his own opinion either way. whatever the word is for that. fencesitting, maybe?

I do say that you are indeed contradicting yourself. One cannot give an opinion if one does not know the case. "Um, um I really don't know whether if I find him scummy or towny, because there hasn't been much said to determine either way. 2 pages really?"

Whats the explanation for that?

Dude, stop iso'ing me and taking things out of context and start actually reading the thread. Obviously I am talking about leis' vote, and not my own. And if you actually read the thread you will find your answer here

I will not be argueing with Rhinocke anymore, until he demonstrates that he actually read the thread. For all he is doing is cluttering the thread. And based on the fact that he is not reading it, there must be too much already for him to read.

The final question in this Glass quote sums up my thoughts very nicely. Please give a better response to it for me, hiphop.

No, I will not. The truth is the truth, and cannot be changed.

[hiphop]

mod can we please get a prod on leis and mer?

[HotDogs]

VOTE: Hiphop

I'm tired of waiting.

[hiphop]

VOTE: Hiphop

I'm tired of waiting.

Like the others, please explain.

[HotDogs]

You're scum, we're waiting on Ghostlin who made it sound like she was going to drop a load of info and then Ghost vanished. I'm tired of waiting so I'm gonna lynch scum.

[StrangerCoug]

Acting on my interests and my interests alone would set off alarm bells.

So your scum, hiding in in with town. Got it, no explanation needed.

So you're scum OMGUS'ing everybody. Got it, no explanation needed. Not to mention that you're now dead.

[Glass]

On phone, do not lynch hiphop yet!!! The scum might kill ghost if he has useful info before he can talk.

[StrangerCoug]

If my count's right, it's too late. If Ghostlin is able to post in time, let's hear it, but right or wrong about the vote count I consider hiphop's fate sealed.

[Packbat]

VOTE: Hiphop

I'm tired of waiting.

UNVOTE: hiphop

I'm not.

If my count's right, it's too late. If Ghostlin is able to post in time, let's hear it, but right or wrong about the vote count I consider hiphop's fate sealed.

Glass unvoted at #132 - hiphop was (and now is again) at

L-2.

[hiphop]

You're scum, we're waiting on Ghostlin who made it sound like she was going to drop a load of info and then Ghost vanished. I'm tired of waiting so I'm gonna lynch scum.

So just another bw'er. Nice.

Acting on my interests and my interests alone would set off alarm bells.

So your scum, hiding in in with town. Got it, no explanation needed.

So you're scum OMGUS'ing everybody. Got it, no explanation needed. Not to mention that you're now dead.

1. Your wrong. L-1. And wrong about everything else too.
2. Look up omgus
3. Kind of hard not vote someone who is not voting me, when 1. they are the only one's posting, 2. all scum are probably already on my wagon. *cough* Hiplop, coug *cough*
4. I actually believe glass and pack are confused townies.
5. You don't have a case. Oh wait, motivation got it.

On phone, do not lynch hiphop yet!!! The scum might kill ghost if he has useful info before he can talk.

Wifom, if I was scum, wouldn't I vote myself? Oh, wait, I 'm not.

[hiphop]

scratch that last thought, pack ninja'd me.

[Rhinocke]

hiphop#161 is very :badposting:

No, I didn't contradict myself. It was just word choice. Semantics. You know this, and you're misrepping because you're only trying to discredit me.

So its ok for you to vote without explaining your vote but not others? is that what you're saying then?

lol @ constantly telling me I'm not reading the thread. Just trying to discredit me rather than show me I'm wrong / show me how you're right.

What do you have to say about the fact I brought up that leis had already explained her vote before you asked her why?

[StrangerCoug]

1. Your wrong. L-1.

Brought to my attention.

And wrong about everything else too.

No I am not.

2. Look up omgus

I actually know what OMGUS'ing is. Calling people scum because they are calling you scum. I don't consider the vote all that necessary.

3. Kind of hard not vote someone who is not voting me, when 1. they are the only one's posting, 2. all scum are probably already on my wagon. *cough* Hiplop, coug *cough*

Yes. This is all a conspiracy to get rid of you just because we hate you

4. I actually believe glass and pack are confused townies.

Explain.

5. You don't have a case.

Here's a hint about getting people to reconsider lynching you: When they give a reason, you do not deny that they have a case. Defend against what they accuse you of or explain how their case is weak. It's your choice, but putting yourself in a state of denial is a good way to dig your grave.

Oh wait, motivation got it.

That's right, Sherlocke. And here's the scum motivation behind what you're doing: It is more important to you that you live. Do I care if I die? This is the absolute last game I should be caring if I die. The people of my color will be getting powers if and when I die. Very useful ones, too.

Would you like to supply us with more reasons why you should die?

[hiphop]

1. So its ok for you to vote without explaining your vote but not others? is that what you're saying then?

2. What do you have to say about the fact I brought up that leis had already explained her vote before you asked her why?

1. Did I say it was ok? Oh right, read this. Read the first sentence, then read the second.
2. Missed it.

Yes. This is all a conspiracy to get rid of you just because we hate you

4. I actually believe glass and pack are confused townies.

Explain.

Name one person that has posted today, besides Ghost(who hasn't read the thread), that has not expressed willingness to vote me. Exactly.

And explain what part, the confused or the townies?

Here's a hint about getting people to reconsider lynching you: When they give a reason, you do not deny that they have a case. Defend against what they accuse you of or explain how their case is weak. It's your choice, but putting yourself in a state of denial is a good way to dig your grave.

exhibit A A post before I posted today. More like he is acting like I am stupid, then actually writing a case. Fat chance I show him respect.

That's right, Sherlocke. And here's the scum motivation behind what you're doing: It is more important to you that you live. Do I care if I die? This is the absolute last game I should be caring if I die. The people of my color will be getting powers if and when I die. Very useful ones, too.

I will play like I want to, and you can play scum. I am hoping that if I play enough games, people will catch on.