Mini 1176: Dexter Season 2 (Game Over) Who Won?

[Kid Know Nothing]

Checking in. I have nothing to add until the entire town is present.

[VP Baltar]

Well, the entire town will be present at some point, yeah. May as well add it if you have something.

[Juls]

I am holding off on prods until tomorrow at 5p.m. central. Anyone who has not posted by then (except Budja who gets until Wednesday evening) will be prodded. If you are NOT V/LA and you are not posting for whatever reason you should know that I have two people on the replacement list and if you aren't going to participate you should replace so that someone who

wants

to play can. The mod is not happy right now.

[Amrun]

@Vp, I still don't understand why you brought up the alt question. It seems like filler.

If you were someone I knew, it may have been useful meta-wise. You're not, so it's not. Plus curiosity as I said. You harping on it seems more like filler than the actual question itself.

Agree with this.

I really want to see more content out of DDD, who is v/la, and Kise, who is not but promised content.

[VP Baltar]

Why those two in particular Amrun?

[Amrun]

DDD hasn't said anything worth saying all game, in my opinion, and from a player of his calibre, this is notable.

Kise because he stirred up shit early and then disappeared, promising content and never delivering.

[VP Baltar]

DDD pushed on Budja. Why is that not notable?

[Amrun]

It is in the sense that I noted it.

But it was feeble, for DDD. I want more from him to know that wasn't a "I have to pretend to suspect someone" post.

[Locke Lamora]

Sorry all, no internet access the last few days, will catch up in the next 24 hours.

[Kise]

My internet isn't working so I'm on my phone. I'll have to provide short and sweet commentary.

[Kise]

Adding a point really quickly before heading back to work. I do not like post 35 The back and forth with Tas and Kise saying you know you are scum and tas asking for a reason, then saying is it because of he didn't vote for Budja, then fixes it by voting for budja says he is more then aware of things then he is letting on. I also read the link and I found Tas more joking around and trying to understand then nervous in the link. This game he's like, what did i do and now following others scum suspect.

unvote:
vote: tanstalas

Tans, can you respond to this directly. I think this is the strongest point against you.

KKN - are you an alt? If yes, have I played with your main before?

Interupting my read to say SHAME on you. Our first game was with KKN. He hasn't changed his avatar. I'm not liking Hindu, Socio and LMP at this point in my read. Continuing on.

[farside22]

Tans: Your being very erractic in this game. Is there any reason for your vote hopping from one player to the next? What exactly was the scummiest thing you have seen this game and why?

As for the vote on Amrun, what I'm going on is you find hypocrisy scummy? If so I would like you to explain why.

Hinduragi: What games did you read of Tans that gave you the read you stated?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

But it was feeble, for DDD. I want more from him to know that wasn't a "I have to pretend to suspect someone" post.

Sure, I'm shameless enough to twist anything someone says into being scummy if I want them lynched but even I'm not willing to just fabricate their words entirely and Budja hasn't given me a whole lot to work with.

I will say that I think his shoulder shrug of a response to me lacks any passion or drive which I slide on the scum side of things both in general and in Budja's case, confirmation bias FTW.

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Baltar, you going to try to sell me on the Socio wagon or did you just create it to see who would jump on?

[tanstalas]

Budja's reasoning to vote, and when asked to explain his reasoning of 'bad timing' by KKN he didn't, he did post after that and acknowledged Socio, but ignored KKN and went VLA. I could also point out other games where I was quite erratic, and I think I already explained this before as me being paranoid.

Do you find vote hopping scummy in early game? I think in most games I have played where I was town I 'vote hopped'

Hypocrisy - saying one thing and doing another doesn't scream "townie" to me.

[farside22]

Budja's reasoning to vote, and when asked to explain his reasoning of 'bad timing' by KKN he didn't, he did post after that and acknowledged Socio, but ignored KKN and went VLA. I could also point out other games where I was quite erratic, and I think I already explained this before as me being paranoid.

Do you find vote hopping scummy in early game? I think in most games I have played where I was town I 'vote hopped'

Hypocrisy - saying one thing and doing another doesn't scream "townie" to me.

I did look into some of your games. I didn't notice vote hopping to this extent or this prominent if you will. Can you link the games you did vote hop in please. I don't have time to search each one, but I will if I have to.

[farside22]

Also before I forget. The answer I got is vague. It doesn't scream townie is not really an answer in my view.
I have had players call me out for something they did and flip town, so I ask again why it is considered scummy to you. Have you seen scum be hypocritically in a game? Have you seen town be hypocritically in a game?

[tanstalas]

Define vote hopping for me: Is it a certain number of vote switches in the same day, or is it a lot of different votes in a small number of posts?

Either way:

Had 4 vote switches in 1 day (not counting RVS) here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go - in this game, I think I hit 3 switches in 1 day.

In this game I had 5 vote switches in my first 15 posts: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Hypocrisy in this term was because she was trying to "act" townie by trying to get people to explain reasoning for their votes when she did the exact same thing. It caused my spidey sense to tingle.

[SocioPath]

How silly.

[Hinduragi]

That wasn't the basis for my vote.

The basis was because I thought he meant that in m previous games I didn't attack people who hopped on my wagon but if you read my past games you will see that I do - so I called him out for lying and hence the vote
Reading is tech

Nah, it wasn't bad reading. One thing you should know about Socio is he is actually following along; It just doesn't seem that way because he's terse about it. This is scum-Socio looking for a nice little way to hop onto the bandwagon.

Unvote; Vote: Socio

When I played with scum-Socio, his voting reasons were just as shitty back then.

Baltar, you going to try to sell me on the Socio wagon or did you just create it to see who would jump on?

What is there to sell? Socio had shit reasoning and got called out on it. When he showed the reason, that exposed him. VPB bagged us some scum.

Farside, the 5 town games in the middle of those links.

[Locke Lamora]

@DDD, point taken. I have been a bit slack.

Still, I see no reason to change my vote, or view.
Tans's voting has been bad, and I am not argueing about the validity of the reasons. That has been covered way too much already. I got nothing new to add, but I highlight that the important part is that most of his votes are weak and come after previous pressure, whether his votes are valid or not is irrelevant.

Socio looks provocative rather than scummy.
If you like the Tans wagon, why direct attention to youself now Socio?

Unvote; Vote: Budja

Why suggest that Socio is town and then proceed to focus on his slot? Doesn't validity have everything to do with whether votes are 'weak' or not?

[Sotty7]

I'm back today and will catch up soon. My V/LA went a little longer that I thought it would.

[Juls]

Official Vote Count

[5]

tanstalas

(Kise, Budja, Amrun, farside22, SocioPath)

[3]

Budja

(Debonair Danny DiPietro, tanstalas, Locke Lamora)

[2]

SocioPath

(VP Baltar, Hinduragi)

[1]

Kid Know Nothing

(Sotty7)

[1]

LynchMePls

(Kid Know Nothing)

[0]

Hinduragi

()

[0]

Sotty7

()

[0]

Kise

()

[0]

Amrun

()

[0]

Locke Lamora

()

[0]

VP Baltar

()

[0]

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( )

[0]

farside22

( )

Not Voting :

LynchMePls

Votes needed for arrest :

7

Deadline for Day 1:

(expired on 2011-06-14 16:45:00)

[VP Baltar]

Baltar, you going to try to sell me on the Socio wagon or did you just create it to see who would jump on?

Originally, I created it to see Socio's reaction more than anything. His basic reaction was 'lol, come at me bro'...which sort of made me think he's not really scum when he's antagonizing people to vote him. I'm not really that set on my vote there, but I've also been having a bit of a tough time getting into this game so far. Now that it's the only real game I'm in atm, I think I'll be much better at concentrating on it and my scumhunting here should improve.

Speaking of which, Hinduragi...can you explain to me your past experiences with Socio-scum and how you see similarities with this game?

[SocioPath]

Speaking of which, Hinduragi...can you explain to me your past experiences with Socio-scum and how you see similarities with this game?

I could. ;o

[VP Baltar]

I'd prefer he did...