Dynasty Warriors Mafia (Shu Victorious)

[mykonian]

Duel in progress

As in his game role mykonian... not his character >_>

@Katsuki: I think you just assumed that. That being said I don't have a lot of knowledge about the theme and I am looking up stuff online about it.
It's just my very first thought about who the mafia team would be in this game - was the yellow guys. Because i thought they were the main enemy of that time. They seem to be in most adaptations anyway I've seen anyway :/

That's the advantage of reviewing setups.

Spyrex provides roles with the names.

[Katsuki]

I did ask you once upon a time if you knew flavor. I guess you never answered it, and I somehow thought you said no.

This Myko backtracking gives me all sorts of bad vibes.

/DUAL OH SHIT SORRY GUYS

[Katsuki]

@Toasty: I did ask you once upon a time if you knew flavor. I guess you never answered it, and I somehow thought you said no.
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This Myko backtracking gives me all sorts of bad vibes.

/DUAL OH SHIT SORRY GUYS

p.s. Post fixed for clarity.

[mykonian]

you didn't see backtracking. I thought long enough about this to make sure this was the best move. It is the best move.

[Amrun]

Explain to me what you think that write up quote meant, then, as I've asked you before.

Completely irrelevant. (for someone too lazy to look things up).

You're disregarding the mod because of lolflavor, when there are perfectly plausible flavor explanations, as explained by Iecrint and Maxous. That's what I was looking for from you, why your flavor justification is so strong in your mind, but you're being excessively obtuse for no discernible reason.

I'm not being lazy, though it doesn't matter. My phone is a pos that freezes all the time and takes forever to do things and my comp is practically non-existent, plus I am busy, so the majority of my phone time goes to actually playing mafia. Gameplay shouldn't be dependent on flavor knowledge because not everyone wants to fight with technology for 3+ hours when they don't even know what they're looking for.

Thank you, Maxous and Iecrint.

[Katsuki]

you didn't see backtracking. I thought long enough about this to make sure this was the best move. It is the best move.

I guess.

I skimmed something wrong.

The post where you dualed still doesn't sit that well with me, but too late for that.

[Katsuki]

Explain to me what you think that write up quote meant, then, as I've asked you before.

Completely irrelevant. (for someone too lazy to look things up).

You're disregarding the mod because of lolflavor, when there are perfectly plausible flavor explanations, as explained by Iecrint and Maxous. That's what I was looking for from you, why your flavor justification is so strong in your mind, but you're being excessively obtuse for no discernible reason.

I'm not being lazy, though it doesn't matter. My phone is a pos that freezes all the time and takes forever to do things and my comp is practically non-existent, plus I am busy, so the majority of my phone time goes to actually playing mafia. Gameplay shouldn't be dependent on flavor knowledge because not everyone wants to fight with technology for 3+ hours when they don't even know what they're looking for.

Thank you, Maxous and Iecrint.

I hate repeating myself.

Ganning third party makes no sense. End of story.

[Maxous]

I honestly don't care very much about this flavor BS and AGM's supposed info about three scum groups. I do not trust AGM's info out of hand. Maybe it's true but it's a scum power (isn't it helpful to them to know what they're up against?). Maybe it's not true and he's setting us up to believe that it's natural to have 3 kills (when 3 kills really means we empowered scum who got an extra kill). Honestly, it sounds to me like the game would be really scum-heavy with 2 3-man mafias and third party. But, hey I guess it's possible and I'm not the best balancer anyway. I just know that when I played in dynamite mafia it was 1 3-man scum team in a 20 player game (but that was vanilla).

So I take AGM with a grain of salt.

AGM is either telling the truth or is suicidal mafia who will be caught before we even reach LYLO when we discover there is'nt 3 anti-town factions.
Regardless of AGM's alignment he is very likely to be telling the truth.

[elvis_knits]

And how are we supposed to discover there aren't 3 anti-town factions?

[Katsuki]

And how are we supposed to discover there aren't 3 anti-town factions?

That doesn't particularly matter at this point.

Good ol' scumhunting is what matters.

[elvis_knits]

And how are we supposed to discover there aren't 3 anti-town factions?

That doesn't particularly matter at this point.

Good ol' scumhunting is what matters.

I agree and that's kind of my point about AGM and his whole deal.

I mean if I'm being stupid about AGM and he should be considered town, then I'll try to listen.

[Maxous]

Wait a minute.
I was saying that off the assumption that 3 anti-town alignments meant 2 seperate mafia teams and a third party but AGM could of faked the 3 anti-town alignments and later say it must of meant a could be a singular mafia team and two third party winning conditions.
Hmm nevermind.
Though I will take his word that he is telling the truth at this moment on time. He seems town to me.

[Iecerint]

@Iecerint:
AGM said 3 anti-town factions. It does'nt neccessarily mean anything such as an SK. It could be any anti-town role.
Red Coyote flipped the red Wu.
There is the green Shu and the yellow Turban people as well right(like the Zhang's)

I'm not saying you are wrong but I would'nt completely rule out RC being 3'rd party based on his character.
Did'nt RC's character(Gan ning) have a habit of changing alleigances anyway?

Gan Ning worked for another lord before joining Wu, but he was loyal after joining Wu. That's the standard pattern for all factions if the person wasn't related to the leader or a childhood friend or whatever, though -- namely, Zhang He (= Toasty) was loyal to Yuan Shao before joining Wei. You might as well spec that Huang Zhong is 3rd party and working for that Jing province fellow (or whoever it was he and Wei Yan came from). Gan Ning was something of a pirate originally, though, which may push in that direction more than some of the other possibilities. I doubt it, though.

Also, just realized something, presumably separate Shu/Wu scumteams and Gan Ning being a member of the latter -- while Gan Ning is a very popular DW character, he's very much relegated to sub-plots in the overall historical/novel narrative. This makes me think that popular characters were chosen rather than flavorful ones, which makes me less concerned about Ludi's "3 brothers scumteam" spec, since I don't think Zhang Fei is very popular.

[Katsuki]

Wait a minute.
I was saying that off the assumption that 3 anti-town alignments meant 2 seperate mafia teams and a third party but AGM could of faked the 3 anti-town alignments and later say it must of meant a could be a singular mafia team and two third party winning conditions.
Hmm nevermind.
Though I will take his word that he is telling the truth at this moment on time. He seems town to me.

You got Wu, and you got Shu.

Since we already have Wu-flip, there are most likely two mafia groups at this point. Shu almost certainly exists in this game.

3P can be a variety, depending on DW flavor. Lu Bu makes most sense to me, but who knows. Doesn't really matter anyhow.

[Maxous]

Okay then =)

Vote inHimshallibe to win the duel

[Iecerint]

Myko, why'd you duel inHim instead of EK?

[mykonian]

I'm more certain myself about Inhim. EK makes me nervous. Mostly because a lot of the people supporting EK are following what I did, while the suspicion of Inhim started on other places too.

[Iecerint]

Oh, I think I've figured out the answer. But give it anyone.

P-edit: Thanks. Yeah, I figured it was because people had expressed inHim duel feelings, but I don't remember anyone wanting EK to do so.

[mykonian]

Vi and DK did. Both also had Inhim high.

[Amrun]

I have decided to accept Iecrint's flavor explanation reconciling the mod's statement and RC being scum.

I wasn't the only one to be confused by this, for the record.

[DeityKabuto]

Vote mykonian to win the duel

So far, Inhim looks scum to me.

[SpyreX]

With a fire in his eyes to match his heart, another stepped forward. With the first feint, alas, it was over.

A duel has been initiated and completed.

mykonian is victorious!

inHimshallibe - Cai Wenji of the Supporters of Wei

has been defeated.

The day has ended.

[SpyreX]

All it took was a moment. A shadow flickering and one falls to the ground.

Juls - Peng De of the Generals of Wei

has been run through.

Deadline is: Thursday, June 9th 10:30 PM PST

[Vi]

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SpyreX 896... Result not foreseen but acceptable. Comprehension of opposition to duel low.

System... Processing previous pages. Number of deaths overNight beneath expectation.

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[Maxous]

Okay, well I understand why mykonian wanted to duel quickly now.
Not confirmed town but I see his ability as more likely to come from town than mafia.

Anyway, Public Service Announcement:

I'm dueling today.

Dragging my feet over it would be a bad idea. I stepped aside last Day period because mykonian said he had the best ability for Day 1.

I will duel whoever the town puts at L-2 with intent to hammer, regardless of my personal opinion of the player.
I will re-read the town lynches tomorrow ~_~