Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Dry-fit]

There are a surprising amount of people with single digit posts. I would think some of them would post more (Katsuki seems to post a lot, but not this game). Also, I think anyone who is playing against their wincon right now in hopes of being recruited, should be taken out back and shot.

This post was your iso # 10

Who do you think is playing against their wincon?

I have never seen a good reason for the xvart wagon and DGB is starting to bug me with this incessant stream. She's not scummy, she's just a big blue bottle buzzing wound my head.

I feel the same way, but I agree with her on one thing, Cobbler is not a recruit.

[Dry-fit]

Holy crap its's my scumday! Didn't even notice...

[Nobody Special]

Very sorry for the lack of content--I got a sudden rush of projects for work, and I fell way behind in this thread. Reading now and more detailed content sometime tomorrow.

(The above is what I typed at 4 in the morning and apparently was too tired to actually post. Substitute "today" for "tomorrow.")

[bvoigt]

UNVOTE: xvart
VOTE: Cobblerfone

Looks to me like he is struggling to come up with a suitable fakeclaim after claiming a role he didn't have.

OK. Since some of you are so very very, VERY dense. I'll explain it.

Cobblerfone is fakeclaiming unrecruitable because he doesn't want to be recruited. Claiming unrecruitable in a cult game is the equivalent of a day 1 fake dayvig in any game. I'm surprised and disappointed that there aren't more people doing it. It's the correct town play.

Cobblerfone town, leave him alone. I love him to pieces, but I wouldn't recruit him myself. I wouldn't have the heart to force him to lie to people.

It's correct town play to fakeclaim?

[DrippingGoofball]

It's correct town play to fakeclaim?

Often it is, witness the one time I fakeclaimed vig as VT, in order to take the kill for the real vig who had breadcrumbed a little too heavily and was a marked man.

Here the correct town play is to fakeclaim un-recruitable to irritate the confirmed scum.

[Cobblerfone]

Cobblerfone town, leave him alone. I love him to pieces, but I wouldn't recruit him myself. I wouldn't have the heart to force him to lie to people.

<3

It's correct town play to fakeclaim?

I'm not saying anything one way or the other about me. But in this game it would at least draw attention away from any real unrecruitables. And with the added tast of WIFOM-sauce if a lot of recruitables claimed unrecruitable unrecruitables could claim unrecruitable, etc. Town WIFOM, it's amazin'!

So, I've been thinking. What normal ways of finding scum can we do? As far as we know, buddying doesn't work right now (though shouldn't be necessarily excluded), not being able to build a proper case doesn't work (since there are two scum teams), that leaves lurking (and trying too hard to not lurk.) and anything that's way anti-town.

I read some ISOs, I still think Ludi and Yos are town. I felt impressed to read some of the people with less presence. Cecily for instance:

I have no basis for opinion right now because I am unfamiliar with both players,

I feel like I'm at a disadvantage having played with only a small number of people in here.
...
All of this is WIFOM. Having never encountered most of these players I have no basis off of which to judge them. But I think the xvart case is strong enough at the moment to leave my vote there.

I don't know enough about him or anyone else to be able to come up with those reasons on my own.

Why do you feel the need to say this multiple times? If it weren't for the fact that there's more than one scum team I'd vote you. I've gotten to thinking that meta is mostly useless but I'll look up yours to see when you're usually this nervous.

[populartajo]

So, Albert: if you were going to recruit a newbie like cobblerfone or MLudi instead of an experienced player like xvart on day 1, why would you do it?

what kind of question is this?

what VALID answer did you expect to get?

Vote: Yosarian2

[populartajo]

why are you people voting for cobblerfone when we know its unlikely recruiters would go with a weak/noob choice?

[populartajo]

@Populartajo:
Read the game. [Redacted], and [redacted].
Do you disagree with my point that we shouldn't rule anyone out as guaranteed not to have been selected?

everyone could have been selected
the point here is that we are talking about most likely scenarios with white flag rule and with a long-plan perspective as I expect from ABR and Kinetic.
recruiters would not risk going with noobs since they can get lynched easily today or later

so cobbler wagon is fail
you knew this
but somehow still voted him
you are cult

[populartajo]

And I'd rather not see Ludi, in particular, pushed too hard, because he's a newbie and may look scummy even as a townie if he's pressured.

Okay, I think Yosarian might be the other recruit.

the

other

recruit.

Easy mode on?
UNVOTE: Spring
VOTE: Cobblerfone

yeah, easy mode on.

Vote: Herodotus

everyone, thoughts of this

recruiters, who of you picked hero and who of you picked yosa?

[Battousai]

^unless they did a quick read through to see if any of the noobs were decent enough to survive

Ninja Edit: I don't understand what your point is. Is it that Hero's vote was shitty, based on misunderstanding of 'other'?

There are a surprising amount of people with single digit posts. I would think some of them would post more (Katsuki seems to post a lot, but not this game). Also, I think anyone who is playing against their wincon right now in hopes of being recruited, should be taken out back and shot.

This post was your iso # 10

Who do you think is playing against their wincon?

Oh no, you found me out... I only have an average of 1 post a day (rounded down). I just picked 10 as a cut of as it was a rounded number (10, 20, 30, etc.)

NS -5 (confirm, simile, jokish remark, votes/participates, apology of inactivity)
Dry-fit 6 (4 before I posted) (confirm, finds cobbler scummy but unlikely recruit, apology of inactivity, catch up post/vote, asks 2 questions, spam/scum day post)
Cecily -6 (confirm, participate, participate/vote, participate, participate, activity promise)
Katsuki -7 (confirm, mechanic speculation, activity increase promise, hasn’t read/will lurk, participate, participate, explanation of lurk post)
Bunnylover- 5 (confirm, vote, role speculation, participate, participate)
Populartajo- 6 (confirm, reading, participate/vote, participate, participate, participate)
Seraphim- 6 (confirm, participate, participate, participate, participate/vote, promise of post)
RaudhrGarm- 4 (confirm, participate/vote, participate, apology of inactivity/v/la)

I know some of this is actual RL stuff and some of them don‘t post a lot to begin with, but I was putting it out there that I thought if anyone was intentionally lurking and trying to get by on that in order to get recruited (by not making waves, staying out of spotlight, not participating), or planed on or doing it in another way, that they are playing against wincon and they shouldn’t because that's dickish.

[DrippingGoofball]

So, Albert: if you were going to recruit a newbie like cobblerfone or MLudi instead of an experienced player like xvart on day 1, why would you do it?

what kind of question is this?

what VALID answer did you expect to get?

Vote: Yosarian2

Nothing irks me more than players trying lame pickup lines with the confirmed scum.

"So, Albert: if you were going to recruit a newbie like cobblerfone or MLudi, did you clean your pants with Windex? I can practically see myself in them. Am I dead, Angel? Cause this must be heaven!"

Hero and Yos are sitting at the table waiting for the rope picnic.

Just not today. But soon.

[DrippingGoofball]

NS -5 (confirm, simile, jokish remark, votes/participates, apology of inactivity)
Dry-fit 6 (4 before I posted) (confirm, finds cobbler scummy but unlikely recruit, apology of inactivity, catch up post/vote, asks 2 questions, spam/scum day post)
Cecily -6 (confirm, participate, participate/vote, participate, participate, activity promise)
Katsuki -7 (confirm, mechanic speculation, activity increase promise, hasn’t read/will lurk, participate, participate, explanation of lurk post)
Bunnylover- 5 (confirm, vote, role speculation, participate, participate)
Populartajo- 6 (confirm, reading, participate/vote, participate, participate, participate)
Seraphim- 6 (confirm, participate, participate, participate, participate/vote, promise of post)
RaudhrGarm- 4 (confirm, participate/vote, participate, apology of inactivity/v/la)

I wish we had more kills per day. There is gold in that list.

[bvoigt]

Cobblerfone town, leave him alone. I love him to pieces, but I wouldn't recruit him myself. I wouldn't have the heart to force him to lie to people.

<3

It's correct town play to fakeclaim?

I'm not saying anything one way or the other about me. But in this game it would at least draw attention away from any real unrecruitables. And with the added tast of WIFOM-sauce if a lot of recruitables claimed unrecruitable unrecruitables could claim unrecruitable, etc. Town WIFOM, it's amazin'!

It's easy for you to say this after DGB brought it up....

[Fritzler]

And I'd rather not see Ludi, in particular, pushed too hard, because he's a newbie and may look scummy even as a townie if he's pressured.

Okay, I think Yosarian might be the other recruit.

the

other

recruit.

Easy mode on?
UNVOTE: Spring
VOTE: Cobblerfone

yeah, easy mode on.

Vote: Herodotus

everyone, thoughts of this

I think everyone is forgetting idiot =/= scum (in both cases)

[DrippingGoofball]

Cobblerfone votes: (xvart, Flameaxe, Porochaz, Tanarin, ooba, bvoigt), Herodotus was on the wagon earlier. Maybe others.

There is some cruitscum on that krapwagon.

[xvart]

NS -5 (confirm, simile, jokish remark, votes/participates, apology of inactivity)
Dry-fit 6 (4 before I posted) (confirm, finds cobbler scummy but unlikely recruit, apology of inactivity, catch up post/vote, asks 2 questions, spam/scum day post)
Cecily -6 (confirm, participate, participate/vote, participate, participate, activity promise)
Katsuki -7 (confirm, mechanic speculation, activity increase promise, hasn’t read/will lurk, participate, participate, explanation of lurk post)
Bunnylover- 5 (confirm, vote, role speculation, participate, participate)
Populartajo- 6 (confirm, reading, participate/vote, participate, participate, participate)
Seraphim- 6 (confirm, participate, participate, participate, participate/vote, promise of post)
RaudhrGarm- 4 (confirm, participate/vote, participate, apology of inactivity/v/la)

This might be a pretty good starting point for a list to exhaust our vig kills if we want to discuss going that route. More to come later tonight when I catch up.

[DrippingGoofball]

NS, Dry-fit, Katsuki, RaudG are like delicious vig meat spilling lurking juice on the butcher's block.

[Fritzler]

So guys, I am going to claim: I am not a vig, and I am going to travel every single night, in the hopes that I find something in one of those buildings that gives me a vig kill.

[Cobblerfone]

I read a couple of Cecily's games. Found it null for the evidence gathered. She has repeated herself as town, and has been mostly contentless when scum. (I only found one scum game.)

But, she's posted lightly. (which, admittedly seems to be par for the course for her.) I hope she delivers on that promise for an indepth post tomorrow. (Okay, that's kind of putting words in her mouth. Still- hoping.)

Seraphim, Katsuki, and all the other ISOcially challenged too please. That'd be great. I'm not even sure what the posts will be about. Probably me, or xvart or yos, or batt, or ludi, or dbg, or hero, etc.

I'll get to rereading Hero and xvart and probably others tomorrow btw.

[ThAdmiral]

Cobblerfone is fakeclaiming unrecruitable because he doesn't want to be recruited. Claiming unrecruitable in a cult game is the equivalent of a day 1 fake dayvig in any game. I'm surprised and disappointed that there aren't more people doing it. It's the correct town play.

Unless you are

actually

unrecruitable. Ironic.

NS -5 (confirm, simile, jokish remark, votes/participates, apology of inactivity)
Dry-fit 6 (4 before I posted) (confirm, finds cobbler scummy but unlikely recruit, apology of inactivity, catch up post/vote, asks 2 questions, spam/scum day post)
Cecily -6 (confirm, participate, participate/vote, participate, participate, activity promise)
Katsuki -7 (confirm, mechanic speculation, activity increase promise, hasn’t read/will lurk, participate, participate, explanation of lurk post)
Bunnylover- 5 (confirm, vote, role speculation, participate, participate)
Populartajo- 6 (confirm, reading, participate/vote, participate, participate, participate)
Seraphim- 6 (confirm, participate, participate, participate, participate/vote, promise of post)
RaudhrGarm- 4 (confirm, participate/vote, participate, apology of inactivity/v/la)

I wish we had more kills per day. There is gold in that list.

To be fair if I was recruited I would try to make sure I was active. (In fact I'd probably try so hard that it would become obvious that I was trying too hard, and then get lynched!)

So guys, I am going to claim: I am not a vig, and I am going to travel every single night, in the hopes that I find something in one of those buildings that gives me a vig kill.

Is that how the buildings work?

[animorpherv1]

Fifth Vote Count of Day One:

xvart - 7 (DrippingGoofball, Cecily, Yosarian2, Seraphim, Fritzler, Nobody Special, ThAdmiral)
Cobblerfone - 6 (xvart, Flameaxe, Porochaz, Tanarin, ooba, bvoigt)
Magister Ludi - 2 (springlullaby, Battousai)
springlullaby - 2 (Herodotus, Zdenek)
Yosarian2 - 2 (Magister Ludi, populartajo)
Chronopie - 1 (RaudhrGarm)
Katsuki - 1 (Bunnylover)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Dry-fit)

Not Voting: 3 (Chronopie, Katsuki, Cobblerfone)

With 25 voters, it will take 13 to lynch.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fifth Vote Count of Day One:

xvart - 7 (DrippingGoofball, Cecily, Yosarian2, Seraphim, Fritzler, Nobody Special, ThAdmiral)
Cobblerfone - 6 (

recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit

)
Magister Ludi - 2 (springlullaby, Battousai)
springlullaby - 2 (Herodotus, Zdenek)
Yosarian2 - 2 (Magister Ludi, populartajo)
Chronopie - 1 (RaudhrGarm)
Katsuki - 1 (Bunnylover)
Herodotus - 1 (populartajo)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Dry-fit)

Not Voting: 3 (Chronopie, Katsuki, Cobblerfone)

With 25 voters, it will take 13 to lynch.

Corrected for accuracy.

[Flameaxe]

Fifth Vote Count of Day One:

xvart - 7 (DrippingGoofball, Cecily, Yosarian2, Seraphim, Fritzler, Nobody Special, ThAdmiral)
Cobblerfone - 6 (

recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit

)
Magister Ludi - 2 (springlullaby, Battousai)
springlullaby - 2 (Herodotus, Zdenek)
Yosarian2 - 2 (Magister Ludi, populartajo)
Chronopie - 1 (RaudhrGarm)
Katsuki - 1 (Bunnylover)
Herodotus - 1 (populartajo)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Dry-fit)

Not Voting: 3 (Chronopie, Katsuki, Cobblerfone)

With 25 voters, it will take 13 to lynch.

Corrected for not being helpful.

Fixed. We get the point, stop waving this same post around and convince us that your silly xvart wagon is worth our time. I'm getting tired of this little broken record routine of yours.

[Porochaz]

Fifth Vote Count of Day One:

xvart - 7 (DrippingGoofball, Cecily, Yosarian2, Seraphim, Fritzler, Nobody Special, ThAdmiral)
Cobblerfone - 6 (

recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit

)
Magister Ludi - 2 (springlullaby, Battousai)
springlullaby - 2 (Herodotus, Zdenek)
Yosarian2 - 2 (Magister Ludi, populartajo)
Chronopie - 1 (RaudhrGarm)
Katsuki - 1 (Bunnylover)
Herodotus - 1 (populartajo)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Dry-fit)

Not Voting: 3 (Chronopie, Katsuki, Cobblerfone)

With 25 voters, it will take 13 to lynch.

Corrected for not being helpful.

Fixed. We get the point, stop waving this same post around and convince us that your silly xvart wagon is worth our time. I'm getting tired of this little broken record routine of yours.

This. You don't have a penis, so stop waving it around.