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Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 8:12 am

Post by Amrun »

BotS was totally lurking.
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Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 8:30 am

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OK, then ALL the mafia were lurking.
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Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 8:48 am

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So all the town were chasing their tails and witchhunting me because of Poison Ivy (mostly). Oh joy.

And what did I have to appease them? "I'm McCarthy, town blacklister." Lol.
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Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 9:39 am

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Well at least I didn't lynch you lol.
But seriously Furc, I could at least understand doing what you did if you were some kind of power role, but vanilla townies shouldn't lie, EVER.
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Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 10:00 am

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The Fonz wrote:OK, then ALL the mafia were lurking.


Except gonnano. At least, he kept drawing attention to himself.
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Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 1:21 pm

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Thank you so much for modding sotty!

I don't have any real problems with the game, although town was perhaps a bit weak. Of course it doesn't help when one of the neighbors offers the other one up as a gimme lynch!

Big shout out to fellow town peregrine who really put in a good effort. So many of the other town looked scummy as hell in this game. Also great work Bvoigt - you absolutely kept us in this game. Unfortunately town really didn't deserve to win due to how many times we mislynched.

Excellent game fonz. Unlike pretty much all the rest of the scum you didn't just lurk.

The Fonz wrote:On, and on 2:1:1s: What I stated there is usually the correct course of action, but there's no point in lynching a CONFIRMED townie. You might as well no lynch there as do that. Wait for the unconfirmed townie to get on and lynch him instead.

That's what I was thinking...

The Fonz wrote:Of course, it still wouldn't have mattered here since I was bulletproof.

...but then again, it wouldn't have mattered. You really had this game sewn up!

Amrun wrote:So all the town were chasing their tails and witchhunting me because of Poison Ivy (mostly). Oh joy.

And what did I have to appease them? "I'm McCarthy, town blacklister." Lol.

So true. I know I was initially for your vote but after a change of heart day one I was bang against it. I think if your lynch had been avoided day 2 we would have been in a much better situation.
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Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 1:25 pm

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Btw @ Enigma:

Updated one last time...
Sotty7 wrote:
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Nachomamma8
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LynchMePls
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LlamaFluff
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GhostWriter
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Amrun
,
Feysal
,
bvoigt
,
smargaret


I was wrong. I'm sorry.

That is a mental town-wagon though!
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Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 1:26 pm

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Sotty7 wrote:
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Amrun
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RedCoyote
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smargaret
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Lowell
,
Nachomamma8

This one was right though...
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Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 2:11 pm

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Peregrine was the ONLY one to call BotS, iirc.
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Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 2:21 pm

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Scum killed vocal people and then everyone lurked. Town threw this one away just as much as scum earned it (not to downplay scum win there).

Claimed vig lynch was crazy though. I mean, just no lynch right out of the gate and you are good to go.
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Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 4:57 pm

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Sotty7 wrote:


Feysal's PM
Hello Llamafluff and welcome to Cold War Mafia. You are
Erich Honecker, Soviet Neighbour
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You're determined not to go to war and think you have an ally towards this end in your West-German neighbour Willy Brandt. Each night you can communicate with him here: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/SHKvrr2nxy83
Please confirm by quoting your role back to me in a PM.
You win when all threats to peace have been killed.


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Hello smargaret and welcome to Cold War Mafia. You are Willy Brandt, West-German Neighbour.

Image

You're determined not to go to war and think you have an ally towards this end in your
East-German neighbour Erich Honecker.
Each night you can communicate with him here: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/SHKvrr2nxy83
Please confirm by quoting your role back to me in a PM.
You win when all threats to peace have been killed.



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Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 9:47 pm

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To be fair that does seem destined to end in a mislynch what with the whole being given different role names for each other.
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Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 9:47 pm

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...and indeed it did end in mislynch.
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Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Mon May 30, 2011 11:45 pm

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OMG I should have known. Fonz is always scum.
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Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:10 am

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Amrun wrote:Peregrine was the ONLY one to call BotS, iirc.


Only TOWN one. :twisted:

CallMeLiam wrote:Hello and welcome to your Cold War Mafia Neighbourhood QT. Remember, although you share a common language you are on different sides of the wall now and cannot be sure of one another's intentions.
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I asked Smarg specifically if the role PM outright stated that PR/Feysal's rolename was 'East German Neighbor' or if it was just part of the flavour. I asked her to check with the mod. There was enough confusion there for it to be ambiguous, Smarg shouldn't have insisted that Feysal was confirmed scum. Of course, Feysal should have flagged up the first post of the QT more in his defence. LOL, the raging argument between Beasts and I over Feysal/Smarg seems to have been the product of me knowing Feysal wasn't Soviet, and Beasts knowing Smarg wasn't American.

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Haha. This was the last to finish of a set of four games I kindly offered to replace into in January and got scumbag roles in each one- Consulmaker, Seinfeld, Hydras, and this. The two games I played from the start in that period, I was town in both (Simpsons and WoW). Kinda makes up for the entire year when I didn't get a scum role.

Should have known you were scum earlier- you were trying. :P
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Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:27 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:
Claimed vig lynch was crazy though. I mean, just no lynch right out of the gate and you are good to go.


Didn't matter though. Lowell would have killed PV, I'd still have killed Lowell, leaving two soviet players alive, WC met.
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Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 am

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Well played, Fonz. I thought the US Mafia was going to win.
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Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 6:53 am

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I don't know if the neighbor PMs were wrote in that way on purpose or if it was a mistake. When that was all going down, the people I spoke too seemed to think it wasn't such a big deal because of East-Germany's presence in the Soviet union. So I don't know...

Anyway dead topic
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Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 7:05 am

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I hate that my kill was on such a whim. :P You guys couldn't give me two days?
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Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 9:10 am

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Sotty7 wrote:I don't know if the neighbor PMs were wrote in that way on purpose or if it was a mistake. When that was all going down, the people I spoke too seemed to think it wasn't such a big deal because of East-Germany's presence in the Soviet union. So I don't know...

Anyway dead topic


East Germany was not 'in' the Soviet Union, any more than France was in the United States. It was a Soviet satellite.
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Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 10:46 am

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Sotty7 wrote:For once, night came quick to the bunker. After bvoigt's sacrifice
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went to bed with a heavy heart. Was he really the only remaining good guy? The thought sent shivers though his body. After double checking his door was locked, PeregrineV finally laid down to get some rest. He slept fitfully as nightmare figures chased him though his dreams. In the middle of the night he awoke with a start, there was a noise somewhere.... He heard it, he was sure he did. Sat up in bed he strains to listen though the darkness when.... BANG!

That sounded like it came from the room right next to him. Turning on his light he slips out of bed and walks to the door. His head is telling him to run and hide, but his instincts want to find out what is happening. With a shaky hand, he unlocks his door, turns the handle and slowly, sooo slowly eases it open just a crack. The lights are still on in the corridor which helps Peregrine tell that the corridor seems to be empty. He sighs with relief, a weight lifted off his shoulders. Maybe he just dreamed the noise.

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Lowell
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I knew he was scum! :lol:


Good job Fonz, you had me fooled. You would have definitely sealed it by being willing to vote for Sathoris (but you seemed reluctant, and stuck on Enigma) and not having the fake moment of doubt. But, very well played, esp. because following your endgame strategy guaranteed you the win (you being BP).

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Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:07 am

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There was nothing fake about it. I was genuinely unsure which one was American, but I knew that either way, I was better off with the claimed American dead, since even if he was town it helped with my WC of leaving only Soviets alive. I was seriously considering switching when it was 3-3, and probably would have done so had bovigt not come along and decided to switch himself. I think I'd still have won with a Sathoris lynch, but I don't think it would have been as neat, and depending on who bv decided to vig could have left me in a 4p endgame with only me and you as possible Soviet scumbags. Once Enigma died, town literally couldn't win.

It's why, incidentally, I don't think Sathoris' assessment of the ThAd kill as making it obv I was Soviet was fair- it didn't matter whether ThAd 'believed' PV or not, since town wasn't going to be able to afford to lynch scum day seven either way, rendering it moot. Soviet scum's pressing need was to eliminate a) obvtown and b) non-Soviets, and ThAd was both. I was pretty much flabbergasted the Americans went for ThAd rather than bv, that didn't make any sense to me.

Also, made props to ThAd for coining the term 'Feysalling' which is going to be a firm part of my mafia-playing lexicon from hereonin.
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Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:18 am

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Honestly I forgot about the wincon and when I did I didn't think it would include US townies. But even if we did take out BV we wouldn't never got to fulfill our wincon because by doing so it would have to 1v1v0 anyway and we'd already won.

I figured it could either end up in a 2v1v1 situation, at which point scum could be lynched. But BV self voted and it ended there. A scum lynch would guarantee the rivalscum a win, hence eliminating support for PV which we thought was soviet scum. A no lynch would be as uncertain as in a 1v1v1 night, which we ended up in anyway.

With a chance for a lynch I figured we'd be best of with a townie who didn't think PV was town.

My assessment perhaps didn't feel fair knowing what you knew. But what we thought it was the only explanation.
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Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:20 am

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There were some NKs what threw me also, but I figured they were going for the American wincon instead of total town annihilation.
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Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:44 am

Post by The Fonz »

Sathoris wrote:Honestly I forgot about the wincon and when I did I didn't think it would include US townies. But even if we did take out BV we wouldn't never got to fulfill our wincon because by doing so it would have to 1v1v0 anyway and we'd already won.

I figured it could either end up in a 2v1v1 situation, at which point scum could be lynched. But BV self voted and it ended there. A scum lynch would guarantee the rivalscum a win, hence eliminating support for PV which we thought was soviet scum. A no lynch would be as uncertain as in a 1v1v1 night, which we ended up in anyway.

With a chance for a lynch I figured we'd be best of with a townie who didn't think PV was town.

My assessment perhaps didn't feel fair knowing what you knew. But what we thought it was the only explanation.


In a 2-1-1, town simply CAN'T lynch scum though. BP or otherwise. Goes to night 2-1, scum shoots the vig, 1-1 last townie gets endgamed. Town had no chance, and had I not been BP their only chance would still have been the crosskill.

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