Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

[Quilford]

time for some vca

Spoiler: lengthy vca

Oso (2):

Rhinox

,

Juls

Erratus Apathos (2): Oso,

ender241

Rhinox

(1):

Maxous

Juls

(1): farside22

ender241

(1): Erratus Apathos

Maxous

(1): Twistedspoon
Prosaurus (1):

Javert

Necessary Evil

(0):

Klazam

(0):

Me=Weird

(0):
farside22 (0):

Javert

(0):
Twistedspoon (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4):

Necessary Evil

, Prosaurus,

Klazam

,

Me=Weird

Oso (3):

Rhinox

,

Juls

,

Necessary Evil

Erratus Apathos (3): Oso,

ender241

,

Me=Weird

Rhinox

(1):

Maxous

Klazam

(1): Erratus Apathos

Maxous

(1): Twistedspoon
Prosaurus (1):

Javert

Twistedspoon (1): farside22

Juls

(0):

Necessary Evil

(0):

ender241

(0):

Me=Weird

(0):
farside22 (0):

Javert

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (2): Prosaurus,

Klazam

ender241

(5):

Javert

, Oso, farside22,

Me=Weird

,

Necessary Evil

Oso (3):

Rhinox

,

Juls

,

Necessary Evil

Javert

(2): Twistedspoon, Prosaurus
Erratus Apathos (1):

Me=Weird

Rhinox

(1):

Maxous

Prosaurus (1): Erratus Apathos

Klazam

(0):

Maxous

(0):
Twistedspoon (0):

Juls

(0):

Necessary Evil

(0):

Me=Weird

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (2):

Klazam

,

ender241

ender241

(4):

Javert

, farside22,

Me=Weird

,

Necessary Evil

Oso (2):

Rhinox

,

Necessary Evil

Javert

(2): Twistedspoon, Prosaurus
Erratus Apathos (1):

Me=Weird

Rhinox

(1):

Maxous

Twistedspoon (1): Erratus Apathos

Me=Weird

(1):

Juls

Prosaurus (0):

Klazam

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):

Necessary Evil

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (3):

Klazam

,

ender241

, Oso

Twistedspoon (4): Erratus Apathos,

Necessary Evil

, Farside22,

Juls

Necessary Evil

(2):

Me=Weird

, Twistedspoon

ender241

(1):

Maxous

Me=Weird

(1):

Klazam

Oso (0):

Javert

(0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Rhinox

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Klazam

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (5):

ender241

, Oso,

Javert

, Prosaurus,

Rhinox

Prosaurus (2):

Klazam

,

Me=Weird

Twistedspoon (1): Erratus Apathos

Necessary Evil

(1): Twistedspoon

Me=Weird

(1):

Juls

Erratus Apathos (1): Prosaurus

Klazam

(1): Farside22

ender241

(0):
Oso (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (6):

ender241

, Oso,

Javert

,

Rhinox

,

Necessary Evil

,

Maxous

Klazam

(3): Farside22, Erratus Apathos,

Me=Weird

Necessary Evil

(1): Twistedspoon
Prosaurus (1):

Klazam

Me=Weird

(1):

Juls

Erratus Apathos (1): Prosaurus
Twistedspoon (0):
Oso (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (5): Oso,

Javert

,

Rhinox

,

Necessary Evil

,

Maxous

Klazam

(2):

Me=Weird

, Prosaurus

Necessary Evil

(2): Twistedspoon,

Juls

Me=Weird

(2):

Maxous

, Oso
Prosaurus (1):

Klazam

Oso (1): Erratus Apathos
Erratus Apathos (0):
Twistedspoon (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4):

Javert

,

Rhinox

,

Necessary Evil

, Farside22

Me=Weird

(4):

Maxous

, Oso,

Necessary Evil

, Farside22

Necessary Evil

(2): Twistedspoon,

Juls

Oso (2): Erratus Apathos,

Me=Weird

Twistedspoon (1):

Javert

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (3):

Rhinox

,

Quilford

, Prosaurus

Me=Weird

(7):

Maxous

, Oso,

Necessary Evil

, Farside22,

Quilford

,

Juls

, Erratus Apathos

Necessary Evil

(1): Twistedspoon
Oso (1): ,

Me=Weird

Twistedspoon (1):

Javert

Erratus Apathos (1): Prosaurus

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):

Juls

(0):
farside22 (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (1):

Rhinox

Necessary Evil

(3): Twistedspoon,

Quilford

,

Rhinox

Twistedspoon (3):

Necessary Evil

, Farside22, Erratus Apathos
Duplicity (0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4):

Maxous

,

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity

Twistedspoon (4):

Necessary Evil

, Farside22, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

Necessary Evil

(2): Twistedspoon,

Rhinox

Duplicity (0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4):

Maxous

,

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity

Necessary Evil

(4): Twistedspoon,

Rhinox

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

Twistedspoon (2):

Necessary Evil

, Farside22
Duplicity (0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (5):

Maxous

,

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity,

Necessary Evil

(5): Twistedspoon,

Rhinox

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

,

Maxous

Twistedspoon (2):

Necessary Evil

, Farside22
Duplicity (0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (3):

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity,

Necessary Evil

(6): Twistedspoon,

Rhinox

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

,

Maxous

,

Necessary Evil

Twistedspoon (1): Farside22
Duplicity (0):
Erratus Apathos (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Javert

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

Maxous

(0):
farside22 (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (3):

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity,

Maxous

(1): Locke Lamora
farside22 (1):

Quilford

Twistedspoon (0):
Duplicity (0):
Locke Lamora (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Rhinox

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (6): Prosaurus, Duplicity, farside22,

Maxous

,

Rhinox

, Twistedspoon

farside22 (2)

Quilford

,

Maxous

Maxous

(1): Locke Lamora
Twistedspoon (0):
Duplicity (0):
Locke Lamora (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Rhinox

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (5): Prosaurus, Duplicity, farside22,

Rhinox

, Twistedspoon

farside22 (3)

Quilford

,

Maxous

, Twistedspoon

Maxous

(1): Locke Lamora
Twistedspoon (0):
Duplicity (0):
Locke Lamora (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Rhinox

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4): Prosaurus, Duplicity, farside22,

Rhinox

farside22 (3)

Quilford

,

Maxous

, Twistedspoon

Maxous

(2): Locke Lamora, Duplicity
Twistedspoon (1): farside22
Duplicity (0):
Locke Lamora (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Rhinox

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (2): Prosaurus,

Rhinox

Maxous

(4): Locke Lamora, Duplicity, farside22,

Rhinox

farside22 (3)

Maxous

, Twistedspoon, Prosaurus
Locke Lamora (1):

Quilford

Twistedspoon (0):
Duplicity (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Rhinox

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (0):

Maxous

(5): Locke Lamora, Duplicity, farside22,

Rhinox

,

Quilford

farside22 (3)

Maxous

, Twistedspoon, Prosaurus
Locke Lamora (0):
Twistedspoon (0):
Duplicity (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):

Rhinox

(0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (0):

Twistedspoon (1): Locke Lamora
farside22 (0)
Locke Lamora (0):
Duplicity (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (5): Prosaurus,

Quilford

, Duplicity, Twistedspoon, Farside22

Twistedspoon (1): Farside22
Locke Lamora (1): Twistedspoon
farside22 (0)
Duplicity (0):

Quilford

(0):
Prosaurus (0):
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (4): Prosaurus,

Quilford

, Duplicity, Locke Lamora

NE wouldn't self hammer without his buddies on his wagon. Suspects: TS, EA/LL
There's no way there was only one scum on M=W's lynch wagon. Suspects: Oso/Dup, farside, EA/LL
I doubt Maxous' wagon was entirely town-driven. Suspects: EA/LL, Oso/Dup, farside
Ender's wagon (3rd VC) would've had more than one scum on it. Suspects: Oso/Dup, farside
I suspect the counterwagon to NE (9th VC) was scum-driven. Suspects: Oso/Dup, farside
I think Rhinox's death was due to his accuracy in reads.

I believe TS is a real cop because his suspicion of NE throughout D1 seemed genuine.

VOTE: Locke Lamora

In terms of partners, I would be mainly looking at farside and prosaurus. Maybe TS (doubt it)

[Duplicity]

The vote count if anything points towards Farside and my slot rather than LL's so can you explain how that VCA leads you to believe that LL is scum. This honestly is looking like you attempting to avoid posting reasoning or logic behind your gut-read on LL while also avoiding explaining your town-read on Twisted in greater depth.

There's no way I can stand back and observe a lynch on anyone other than Twistedspoon occur without you changing my mind in regards to Twisted or presenting a case that I find reasonable towards LL/Farside since I don't see any legitimate way that Pros is scum.

[Quilford]

Why was Rhinox killed?

[Duplicity]

Rhinox dying over Quilford increases my FoS towards Twistedspoon for the sole purpose of Quilfords strong defence of Twistedspoon, given how yesterday played out I see Rhinox reconisdering his reads entirely because they all were based around Maxous-scum whereas Quilford seemed to believe that Twisted was town regardless of anyone elses allignment or flip.

[Quilford]

Vote Count #2:

Necessary Evil

(3):

Twistedspoon

,

Quilford

,

Rhinox

Twistedspoon

(3):

Necessary Evil

,

Farside22

, Erratus Apathos
Not Voting (4): Maxous,

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity

Vote Count #3:

Twistedspoon

(4):

Necessary Evil

,

Farside22

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

Necessary Evil

(2):

Twistedspoon

,

Rhinox

Not Voting (4): Maxous,

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity

Vote Count #4:

Necessary Evil

(4):

Twistedspoon

,

Rhinox

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

Twistedspoon

(2):

Necessary Evil

,

Farside22

Not Voting (5): Maxous,

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity

Vote Count #5:

Necessary Evil

(5):

Twistedspoon

,

Rhinox

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

, Maxous

Twistedspoon

(2):

Necessary Evil

,

Farside22

Not Voting (3):

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity

Final Vote Count:

Necessary Evil

(6):

Twistedspoon

,

Rhinox

, Erratus Apathos,

Quilford

, Maxous,

Necessary Evil

Twistedspoon

(1):

Farside22

Not Voting (3):

Javert

, Prosaurus, Duplicity


@ above VCA: Bolded are facts, not bolded are my assumptions. I'm posting this so I can refer back to it. When analzying the players I haven't colored red or green up there.

Spoiler: EA analysis

-starts out the day voting Oso.
-Votes TS first, based on previous suspicions and a comment on D2.
-Complete 180 after maxous points out the speed of TS soft claim.

What I find interesting is the polarity in EA's 180. Like, he had a whole list of reasons why TS was scum in iso 50, and then they all went away simply because maxous pointed out the timing of TS soft claim and all of a sudden EA was finding scummy comments from NE that he wasn't pointing out before. To me, that looks like it could be when the flip was switched and he decided to bus. On the other hand, the VCA above shows that when EA switched, the wagons were tied, and he made NE the leading wagon. That was also before I came back from Easter and started really pushing for NE to be lynched.

When I look back at EA day 1, I see he did a little pushing at NE and voted for a few posts before moving on. The style was consistent with his play up to that point: vote ender, question a few posts, move on vote klazam, left it there a few posts (no follow up with klazam vote, hmmm), move on to prosaurus, question a few posts, move on to NE, question a few posts, move on to TS. This is where the playstyle changed, and EA aggressively pursued TS's lynch, and then back to aggressively pursuing klazam this time, then aggressively pursuing Oso.

Couple interesting snippits from D1:

indeed, NE has gone under the radar for too long

I'm fine with this wagon. My vote on Javert is utterly redundant anyways now that his wagon is gone and he's claimed :/

VOTE: NE

Oh yeah, Twistedspoon is totally scum. Look at his posts between his Javert vote and his unvote. He doesn't attack Javert, he doesn't question Javert, he doesn't push the Javert wagon, he's doesn't do a single damn thing to Javert. He accomplished three things with his Javert vote, and those things were VOTE PARK, VOTE PARK, AND VOTE PARK. He was vote parking on Maxous earlier too, and he's already looking like he's vote parking on NE. I suggest we park a noose around Twistedscum's neck.

Chainsaw?

I concur, vig already Javert.

FWIW I support vigging Klazam or Twistedspoon and am

against vigging

Ender, Prosaurus, MeWeird,

NEvil

, or farside (or me obv obv)

Thats a pretty good place to stick in a scum partner.

Oh, come on, EA! Do you really want to nit pick over something like this? I posted on Friday, wasn't even on the site on Saturday, and posted again on Sunday, so to me at the time, it was one day. What difference does it make that it was technically two days? That's still suspiciously premature to vote for lurking. We clearly didn't have a lurking problem at the time. He even said that he just picked me because I was the lowest on the activity overview. That's not scumhunting. He used a technicallity that doesn't even remotely prove the case he was making in order to excuse his vote.

I believe Juls mason claim. I've had a town read on her for a while and that would explain my odd feelings about Klazam. I'm really rolling my eyes at her vote on me, though. I've been V/LA for almost a week, which she is failing to take into account. If you check the other game I'm in, I posted that I was V/LA there, too, so I'm not making it up to lurk in this game. I think she's overestimating how often I should be posting because this is has been a very active game. I've certainly posted my fair share of content, IMO.

These are town reactions to being attacked.

Are you a moron, or have you never heard of having a gut town read on somebody who's done scummy things?

Are you just twisting everything so it

could

be scummy, or are you an idiot? How is that desperation? I wanted why he thought I was scum into one post because I wanted to make sure there weren't things I hadn't responded to. Why do you want to lynch TS? Do you disbelieve his claim? Why? And do you know how exceedingly dumb and moronic it is to use connections before there's been a scum flip? Do you ever consider that you're

wrong?

So are these.

This is a good one too. Good way to defend a partner, by simultaneaously also defending a townie for the same reason.

And the other two people?

wut

Seeing the deadline, I realize the only plausible lynch today is MW. I still think he's town, but it's better than no lynch at all, so

au revoir

.
UNVOTE: Oso
VOTE: Me=Weird

in before the townflip

I think at this point, a NE lynch was still on the table. An Oso lynch wasn't completely ruled out, his top choice. Were EA here today, my top question would be why he didn't think an NE or Oso lynch was possible. Or why he hammered without letting M=W claim? - EA clearly didn't want M=W lynched, so a claim may have shifted the wagon quickly onto his top scum choice (Oso) if he's town, but it also could have shifted onto scum (NE). The point here is that there was still essentially a full day left before deadline, he didn't need to hammer when he did especially without giving M=W the 22 hours to claim. I think he could have been banking on being able to get away with hammering M=W before claim to prevent the wagon from quickshifting to his scum partner if people believed M=W's claim.

@EA, I don't think Oso is gonna swing today. I think we should re-evaluate him tomorrow. Who is your second choice?

Twistedspoon is. I'd also live with a lynch of Rhinox, farside, or Maxous even though those are null reads atm. I definitely don't want to lynch MeWeird, NEvil, Prosaurus, Javert, Quilford or you.

Interesting post to keep in mind for later if EA/Locke is determined to be scum. I'd put 1 scum partner in the "live with a lynch" category, and 1 in the "don't want to lynch" category.

I would hope to be able to clearly conclude that EA/Duplicity is not an acceptable pairing for remaing 2 scum partners, given EA's assault on Oso. I'd consider EA/Prosaurus, EA/Maxous, EA/Farside as likely pairings should EA be scum, roughly in that order of likliness. But EA/Maxous might not seem that likely given Locke coming out today - not the time to bus. And if prosaurus really did do a town slip, then that EA/Prosaurus is out. And I almost don't even consider EA/Farside likely at all due to leaning town on farside for WIFOM reasons. So POE might actually be ruling EA/Locke out completely. That would simplifiy the rest of the game a lot, with Maxous/Duplicity jumping to the top of the most likely scum pairing list. They'll be the next 2 on my list to analyze.

I had initially meant to include analysis of Maxous, Prosaurus, and Duplicity/OS in this post, but its taking a bit too long both in time and words. I also need to look at Javert's suspicions, and do a farside iso to make sure I'm not wifoming myself out of a scum lynch. All this will be done before I place a vote today, but this should start off explaining my thinking for my earlier posts so far this day. You guys can at least get a head start on reading the EA part rather than me dumping the entire wall on you at once

[Duplicity]

I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of posting that was, are you attempting to say that the entire reasoning behind your vote on LL is the fact that Rhinox had a level of suspicion towards him before he was killed?

[Quilford]

Can you read?

[Duplicity]

Yes, I can read, attempting to insult me really isn't doing wonderings for your image as a player. You posted observations that Rhinox suggested yesterday without adding any extra comment to them. I'm asking you quite clearly is the entire reason that you suspect LL due to the fact that Rhinox suspected him and died?

[Quilford]

Yes, I can read, attempting to insult me really isn't doing wonderings for your image as a player. You posted observations that Rhinox suggested yesterday without adding any extra comment to them. I'm asking you quite clearly is the entire reason that you suspect LL due to the fact that Rhinox suspected him and died?

Why would you feel the need to state the first sentence?

If you reread my posts on this page you can see the answer to the second question?

Why are you defending LL so hard?

[Duplicity]

1.Why would you feel the need to state the first sentence?
2. If you reread my posts on this page you can see the answer to the second question?
3. Why are you defending LL so hard?

1. Simply because I'm finding your lack of effort in this game frustrating to observe.

2. I have read them and I'm asking you are you honestly attempting to rest the entire game on night-kill speculation when various other reasons for Rhinox's death have been presented.

3. I'm not at all, G actually has a really strong scum-read on LL which I don't exactly share at the moment. I'm just attempting to understand your town-read on TS which you continue to avoid explaining.

[Quilford]

1. What does my lack of effort have to do with me insulting you?

2. The VCA had reasons for EA/LL scum.

3. My town read on TS comes from the one shot 'slip' and my experience with his meta. I'll get examples up soon. Perhaps gut mixed in. I want reads on players from both sides of the hydra now.

[Duplicity]

1. I just found it unbelievable that someone with such a lack of effort as yours was asking me if I could read.

2. The reasoning behind LL as scum on the VCA all relied on TS being town which I don't think is the case.

3. Meta-examples would be highly appreciated and I'll get G to post next time I see him on MSN, our last conversation went roughly along the lines of me asking him for his case against LL. It revolves around this post with the bolded bit emphasied below:

The case on Ender is even worse. That was just a random vote. Any suspicion regarding that vote

depends on EA being scum, and it's too early to tell that

especially since Oso's case on EA is so weak..

[Quilford]

So what do you think of a possible LL/TS team?

And yes I am the shittiest confirmed clear in the world. Often when I'm confirmed clear my scumhunting is as bad as if I were scum.

[Duplicity]

So what do you think of a possible LL/TS team?

We've discussed TS/Farside and TS/LL quite a lot and TS/LL is something we keep coming back to, not due to interactions but due to the fact neither of us are compromising on our strongest FoS though.

[neil1113]

Pushing the deadline back until the 5th to accommodate the holiday season! The new deadline is located at the bottom of this post.

Vote Count #1.3:
Day Four

Locke Lamora

(2): Twistedspoon, Quilford

Twistedspoon

(1): Farside22

Duplicity

(0):

Quilford

(0):

farside22

(0)

Prosaurus

(0):

No Lynch

(0):

Not Voting

(3): Prosaurus, Duplicity, Locke Lamora

V/LA

(1): farside22 till Tuesday

Prodding:

(0):

With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Deadline

for Day Four is now moved to

5:00 PM EST 06/05/11

[Prosaurus]

Look, this is MyLo. We could if we NL Quildford is almost surely going to be NKed, so that's no help. Why don't we get the two most likely scumteams and then lynch whoever appears in both?

[Duplicity]

Look, this is MyLo. We could if we NL Quildford is almost surely going to be NKed, so that's no help. Why don't we get the two most likely scumteams and then lynch whoever appears in both?

The only difference between this and outright voting is that mafia can just pile on two town players and then just one misguided townies vote could seal the lynch on a town player whereas voting outright two town players have to vote incorrectly for us to lose. Pros, what's your reads on everyone at the moment and please attempt to add reasoning behind it.

Quilford, I told G today that you wanted his thoughts known in-thread however he never responded, I'll attempt to pester him about it next time I see him online.

[Twistedspoon]

hey prosaurus, Vote LL with us

in other news my mini normal should be in signups soon. I'm looking forwards to it

[Locke Lamora]

Sorry all, no internet access the last few days, will catch up in the next 24 hours.

[farside22]

Yeah, because this situation is exactly the same as American Gods. Do you think I'm scum with TS? Do you have a case on me? Is anything here reminiscent of my play there?

I do believe you to be more likely scum with TS. Pro would be a second thought as scum team.
I have a few issues since NE flipped scum.

1) EA's defense of NE day 1.
2) EA sitting on the vote on NE I could see as scum knowing his scum buddy going down and pushing the lynch.
3) Your lack of comments toward TS till today. You said nothing about him yesterday but are willing to lynch him today, which throws off some of what I felt yesterday but would not surprise me in the least to see scum do.

[Prosaurus]

My reads...
Dup - Town, given me no reason to suspect him.
LL - Scum, read carried over from EA, posted some stuff recently I believe.
FS - Scummy, PoE and stuff, think I posted stuff recently as well.
TS - Scummy, I reckon he coulda bussed and he seemed to not do much D1 if I remember, he didn't D2 either, but I can at least partly understand that.

Will look for my recent reads.

[Prosaurus]

Well FS was PoE and agreeing with other's reads according to my Iso.
LL was from EA and bad feelings.

[Twistedspoon]

so vote LL then :/

[Locke Lamora]

Still catching up and reading some stuff back, but two things while I'm thinking about them:

1. Farside: I did have doubts about TS yesterday. I actually quoted a post of his which I am still very dubious about. Having said that, I agreed with Rhinox's sentiment that TS-scum was something we should wait to deal with until LyLo, so I didn't pursue it much further.

2. Anyone pushing a TS-me scumteam: do you really think that EA was bussing TS D1?

[Locke Lamora]

Hey TS, you know how the deadline got extended? If you're town, how about you use that time to do something other than encouraging people to vote for me and start trying to convince us that you're town? If you're scum, good job reinforcing my read.