Mini 1170: Nowhereville Mafia '11- Over!

[SleepyKrew]

Could you paraphrase your result PM for us? If it doesn't reveal too much?

[Espeonage]

SK, what difference does that make?

EVERYONE: STOP ASKING FOR A CLAIM. After looking at a few things there are a few roles hip could be. It is better for the town if less information is known past what is necessary.

[SleepyKrew]

Espe, I'm not sure, but maybe there's a way he can explain his confusion without outing his role?
But back to the scum.
VOTE: Kalofer

[hiplop]

no im not revealing anymore.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Vote count D-2 #5

(1) Kalofer- Sleepykrew

(2) Panzerjager- Kalofer, Espeonage

(2) hiplop- Panzerjager, LordChronos

(5) Not voting: Elfen, cloudocean, hiplop, CooLskins, The Kool

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is June 19th, Midnight Central.

[Elfen]

Could hip be the Jack of all trades. Since he said he could get info but not a complete info role, so a one shot info thing?

[Espeonage]

STOP TRYING TO WORK OUT WHAT HE IS. There are a heap of roles it could be. STOP IT and play the game.

[The Kool]

Seriously, enough damage has already been done knowing he's a power role, we don't want it outed if he has more useful abilities.

Too late to string thoughts together right now, but I am still going to hunt down that potential hiplop/Sleepy/Espy scumteam tomorrow. In the meantime...

V/LA June 12-18 for summer camp.

Sorry if I should have let you know sooner, these things have a way of sneaking up on you, and I honestly expected the game to be over before then (back before I had played one here). Still, this is quite absolute, as I will not be able to post during that time at all.

[CooLskins]

STOP TRYING TO WORK OUT WHAT HE IS. There are a heap of roles it could be. STOP IT and play the game.

^my second best town read.... I'm going to post my first part of my reads today.

[CooLskins]

Yes this is a mighty wall of death right here. A summary will be added at the end for all of those who don't have to time or will power to read it.
I have it divided up into stages (or sections if you prefer) so you can have a little context instead of random quotes...

There are questions in here, but most of them don't need to be answered. They are simply thare to explain why the quote is important. However, feel free to answer to them if you want to.

-Stage the first:
The RVS Period

The start of this game is mainly dominated by RVS discussion. While it is not the most important part of the game, or most reviling it still has some relevant points.

Well. I really don't like the RVS stage much, so Imma lay low till things start to pick up and all, past RVS

This still makes me mad...

Kool's 34, 44, 47, and 50 (pages 2&3...) feel like noob to me. Looking at it its the same type of stuff that elfin was saying.

We have as long as we make it. I am perfectly used to RVS as well, and where I came from a day is a week as well, and RVS there usually lasts longer than it just did here. Three weeks is just the limit, we could lynch today if everyone agreed the same guy was scum.

This is a slight appeal for a quick lynch.

Here's a question for everybody: how often in your experience do scum discuss random voting or the RVS? I don't have an answer, which is part of the reason why I'm asking.

Every game I have played. I have not voted, they brought it up and so on >_>

So in order to survive you conform even though you don't personally think its correct. If you adequately express your reasons for not partaking in rvs then you should not be criticized. Why do you care about appearing town?

from then on nothing much happens... until this

Esp, reasoning?

Of course I have reasoning.

minor yet still doesn't answer the question until here

Didn't like his answers to my questions.

but naturally he was refering to these (112),

kks.

1. Do you prefer playing as Mafia/Town/3rd Party?
2. How often do you usually post?
3. What is your timezone?
4. What is your stance on gut reads?
5. Can I expect WoTs from you?

1.

Dunno, only played as Townie :/

2. Every day
3.CST
4.

Usually teh best option to follow if you don't know where to turn

5. Hh?

so he doesn't like the answer to 1 and 4...
I can sorta see it now, his number 4 could warrant an rvs vote but other then that its just the forming of a bandwagon.

Thus ends part 1,

Vote Count D-1 #2

(4) Elfen- LordChronos, The Kool, cloudocean, Espeonage

(2) SleepyKrew- Necessary Evil, Kalofer

(1) Kalofer- SleepyKrew

(1) The Kool- CooLskins


(5) Not voting- WingDamage9001, Quinnster, Elfen, Supreme Overlord, Panzerjager

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is June 3rd, Midnight Central.

Prodding, Supreme Overlord and Panzerjager...

Summary:

So from this my reads don't change that much. Although kool looks worse then he did before and elfin still looks like a noob. Interesting thing is that panzer has really posted in this time, and neither have the other lurkers. At this point sk is looking townie,but I have a feeling that's going to change.

this thing starts at page 1 and goes to page 5, expect more later when I (cooldog) have more time...

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[CooLskins]

note: this is part one, more will be added later...

[hiplop]

that wasnt much of a wall coolskins

[CooLskins]

@Hip: If your role confirmed that SK was not a killing role last night, then why did you vote for SK early today for supposedly killing charter?

[CooLskins]

And I forgot to sign that post...

-Bub

[hiplop]

@Hip: If your role confirmed that SK was not a killing role last night, then why did you vote for SK early today for supposedly killing charter?

I didnt think about it, read my previous posts

[The Kool]

Not thinking about what you do is never a good thing(unless you're mafia and it helps us catch you), but not thinking about a vote is a very bad thing. You should have good reasons for every vote you cast(except for RVS, but I think its safe to say we're past that).

@my 55: Nah, that's just my horrible, horrible habit of pointing out things people don't seem to be seeing, even when making such things aware to the public isn't always the best move. I was making a point, but you're all going to believe what you like to, so I won't rant about why.

I'm awake now, but I got stuff to do. I'll work in that promised hunting as soon as I can.

[hiplop]

You'll understand when i claim, its not an info role, i had to really think about it

[SleepyKrew]

Kool is getting scummier to me by the post. 58 posts in, you can't make an excuse for not posting reads.

[PJ.]

Are we all posting reads right now?

Scum:
Kool

Scummy:
CloudOcean
Kalofer

Neutral:
Hiplop
Sleepy
Chronos

Townish:
Espeon
CoolSkins

Town: Elfen and Myself

Also, what ever happened to that Kool wagon, we can all claim D3 or 4 so I'm comfortable with trusting espeon's gut and going back to the Kool Wagon. Let's face it, the guy hasn't gotten any more town, I said D1 he was confirmed scum, and a lot of people(including Charter who is confirmed town) thought Kool was scum

Unvote Vote:Kool

Just looked at his vote history, all his votes have come after 3-4 people were already on the wagon and generally consist of OMGUS or "yeah what he said" Seems to just be trying to fit in with the town and going with whichever lynch will go his way.

I'd be willing to bet him and kalofer are buds.

[The Kool]

Man, I hate not being able to devote hours to reading the thread and making solid cases. I know I would do so much better if I did.

As it stands, my scummiest reads are currently Espeonage, Kalofer, Cloudocean.

Espeonage: Keeps saying he has proof and evidence for things that he doesn't, says people are confirmed and admits that it is because of a gut read, and continuously fails to post a real explanation for things when asked. I don't care for his claim, it's on his word only, its not evidence. Scum read.

Kalofer: In addition to previous reasons, his reasoning seems to be 'When in doubt, follow Espeonage!' Since Esp is my top scum read, this makes Kal fall right in with him. Scum read.

Cloudocean: Total lurker, and in my experience, that is a strong scumtell. Maybe not mafia, could be SK.

SleepyKrew: Starting to think he may be town, he gets a null read from me now. I really don't know what to make of him, so I'll have to try harder. UNVOTE: SleepyKrew

Hiplop: Dude could easily be lying, and has some explaining to do, but he has claimed a power role, so we leave him alone for now. Leaning both ways simultaneously, so null read.

Elfen: Newb, leaning town.

CooLskins: The most pro-town player here, from all evidence. Strong town read.

I have to go now, but the rest of my reads will come tonight.

[The Kool]

Blarg, I totally contradicted myself there. That will teach me to post without rereading my post.

I am also disinclined to believe hiplop's role, actually, for the same reasons as Espy's, and consider him likely scumteam with Espy and Kal.

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Kool
That reads post. So many holes. Explanation in next post.

[SleepyKrew]

Contradictions.
Sorry, just learned how to do that

[Elfen]

Imma go with the lurker or possible SK or third party on this go around >_> and he was like my first person i suspected >_>

Vote: Cloudocean

[Elfen]

Unless there isa time for a kool hammer then I shall switch :/ but till no, my vote its on CO