Mini 1170: Nowhereville Mafia '11- Over!

[SleepyKrew]

Also, forgot to mention, Kool had already unvoted me. Honest mistake... or nervous scum?!

[The Kool]

D'oh, honest mistake, I thought I had revoted you again.

On the Espe lynch, did you not notice I did not actually vote him? No, we are not going to lynch a claimed PR today. That waits for tomorrow, when we have more proof, and can tell one way or the other.

Cloud has my vote, because Kal's scumminess relies quite a bit on Espe's scumminess the way I read it. We're much better off getting rid of the luker/possible SK, as Elf put it.

VOTE: cloudocean

[SleepyKrew]

So you can defend yourself, but not finish your reads? Interesante...
Also, a Kal lynch would reveal a lot about Espe. I'm going to go reread to see Espe's stance on the matter.

[The Kool]

Also, on PR claims: Doubt both are lying because they would have been counter-claimed by now? Likely. But then, it could also be a well-coordinated scumteam trying to strong-arm their way into the town's trust. No way to know yet.

Also also, I don't have time to finish reads now, as I have to go. Finishing reads will be done properly, not hastily.

[SleepyKrew]

You said you had to go nearly an hour ago.
Both mention confusion in their result PM. Also interesante...

[hiplop]

The Kool has got to be scum :\

[Kalofer]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Kool

[LordChronos]

Unvote; Vote: Kalofer

Seriously?

[hiplop]

what is kool at now? l-2?

[SleepyKrew]

I'm perfectly okay with a Kool or Kal lynch. However, we should wait until Kool and Cool finish their reads.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Vote count D-2 #6

(1) Panzerjager- Espeonage

(3) The Kool- Panzerjager, Sleepykrew, Kalofer

(2) cloudocean- Elfen, The Kool

(1) Kalofer- LordChronos

(3) Not voting: cloudocean, hiplop, CooLskins

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is June 19th, Midnight Central.

[PJ.]

I do not at this moment support a Cloudocean lynch.

Kal, I can get behind.

I'm gonna IC for a minute, sorry if this offends anyone.

@Elfen:It's generally anti-town to hunt third party members, ewhile scum is still alive. SKs generally have to claim vig, then when we have almost rounded up all the scum we have the vig shoot themselves or be lynched. This way the Sk is in a position where they lose no matter what, and town still has a chance to win. By hunting the Sk, you're essentially missing the big picture.

[PJ.]

As I was typing that for Eflin, I realized something. I think hiplop is the SK and is full shit.

[The Kool]

Man, I hate not being able to devote hours to reading the thread and making solid cases. I know I would do so much better if I did.

As it stands, my scummiest reads are currently Espeonage, Kalofer, Cloudocean.

Espeonage: Keeps saying he has proof and evidence for things that he doesn't, says people are confirmed and admits that it is because of a gut read, and continuously fails to post a real explanation for things when asked. I don't care for his claim, it's on his word only, its not evidence. Scum read.

Kalofer: In addition to previous reasons, his reasoning seems to be 'When in doubt, follow Espeonage!' Since Esp is my top scum read, this makes Kal fall right in with him. Scum read.

Cloudocean: Total lurker, and in my experience, that is a strong scumtell. Maybe not mafia, could be SK.

SleepyKrew: Starting to think he may be town, he gets a null read from me now. I really don't know what to make of him, so I'll have to try harder. UNVOTE: SleepyKrew

Hiplop: Dude could easily be lying, and has some explaining to do, but he has claimed a power role, so we leave him alone for now. Leaning both ways simultaneously, so null read.

Elfen: Newb, leaning town.

CooLskins: The most pro-town player here, from all evidence. Strong town read.

I have to go now, but the rest of my reads will come tonight.

Alright, picking up where I left off. I guess there were only two left, but I didn't have time to realize that earlier. And that 'hour later' post was me getting back on for about two minutes between dinner and leaving.

Panzerjager: He seems to deal in absolutes around here. He was real strong in going after Quinn/Ear, and tried to get him to hammer himself. This alone isn't enough for a scum read, so I'm thinking Null read, but lynching him is either a good idea or a bad idea, no middle ground in his case. However, lately he has been jumping around quite a bit, and can't stick to a single vote... Null read, leaning scum pretty heavily.

LordChronos: Also lurking, but with sensible reasons that were not excuses after the fact. He also actually puts forth an opinion and there is substance in what posts he has made, unlike our other lurker. However(and this is a bit of meta), his record shows that he is pretty good as scum, so I'm inclined to keep a closer eye on him. Null read, leaning town.

[Kalofer]

Unvote; Vote: Kalofer

Seriously?

seriously what?

[CooLskins]

that wasnt much of a wall coolskins

yeah, because I was originally going to post all of the parts in one section. Then I found out that it would take me longer to re-read then I thought so I just posted what I had.

I find kool's reasons to be rather weak. After day-1 you should have solid reasons to back up your reads.

So you can defend yourself, but not finish your reads? Interesante...

Don't you just hate it when somebody says the exact same thing that you wanted to say?

As for finishing my reads, that will take a while. I might enlist the help of bub to do a combo effort. The unfortunate thing is that my weekdays are busy, but my weekend are wide open. On a good Saturday I can read a whole game a comment on it. We will see how it goes. If I can get bub on here he will speed things up alot...

@mod, Bub got his computer fixed. Aparently it was due to windows xp not being able to write on a hard drive that was over 120gb or so. Crashed on start up (solution was to partition the drive)... anyway he

isn't

v/la anymore.

Noted.

-Midnight

[The Kool]

Yes, it's weak. *hangs head in shame*

I'm just not particularly good at making strong cases. Honestly, you want the family 'lawyer', you want my brother. Doesn't keep me from trying, though, as seen above.

I can't shake my feeling that Espe is scum though, so I guess that brings me to my gut reads(which comprise half my overall reads as well). Gut reads on Espe, Kal, SK, and hip, and only those four. I will beat myself upside the head if I trust me fallible logic, and my gut turns out to be right instead.

[SleepyKrew]

You think that Espe AND hip are lying? Highly unlikely. I also like how your vote is on cloud and not Kalofer.

[The Kool]

Unlikely, but not impossible, and my gut has a history of being eerily accurate. I tend to trust it, even if I don't blindly follow it.

It is indeed on Cloud, and I gave a reason. Rereading that reason and considering what I know, it appears to have several exceptions, but I would really rather not be wishy-washy about my votes. Pick someone and stick to it, yes? My vote may change if needed for a hammer on someone I think is scum, but until then, I would like Cloud to step forth and actually post some meaningful content. Reads might be a good place to start.

[hiplop]

VOTE: cool

Scum more than likely

[SleepyKrew]

You realize you voted the hydra, right?
To paraphrase Kool: "My gut has a tendency to be right. A lot. I'm not listening to it."

[hiplop]

UNVOTE: coolskins

VOTE: THE KOOL

sorry about that!

[The Kool]

That is, as you say, a paraphrase. Paraphrasings can be twisted to sound any way you like. I listen to my gut, as seen by my reads, yes? I just don't blindly follow it. I do so sensibly.

[PJ.]

This wagon picked up WAAAY too fast and Sleepy, Kal, and Hiplop are all on it. Don't like this one bit.

Unvote

I'm pretty sure none of those people are town.

[SleepyKrew]

How is that WAY too fast? There has been major suspicion on Kool since the beginning.