MagnaofIllusion wrote:@LMP – You’ve continued to not directly answer this question. Stop dodging and answer it –
Question – Are you asserting that I am wrong in saying that there is likely to be a higher concentration of scum on YOUR wagon if Vezok is scum than if he is Town?
1) There has been no dodging. I've never seen the question asked. Perhaps before I didn't realize you were addressing the question to me?
2) Yes. For one, I see no reason why scum wouldn't join an RVS wagon on their buddy, especially when all he had was one vote. In fact, as my wagon built, I'd think that would be a prime time for scum to go "hey, why is Vezo not getting anything". Which is fascinating, since that is what you did.
On to other replies …
LMP wrote:When I said "caught" I meant "I've seen you do this before" not "I got him lynched as scum". I think context makes this perfectly plain.
Of course you do. But as shown in thread others seem to be taking my posts in all sorts of creative directions that I didn’t intend.
So if others are misunderstanding you then you feel fine in intentionally misrepresenting what I'm saying?
LMP wrote:So if I've only seen you do something once as scum, and I've never seen you do it as town, I'm not allowed to draw a conclusion from it?
Not if you want it to be a credible conclusion. You are basically saying “Hey this one time out of his 50+ games MoI did something that tangentially resembles something he did when he was scum”.
I disagree. I think bringing up behavior you've done in the past as scum and is directly relatable to behavior you are engaging in this game is worth mentioning.
LMP wrote:If your argument is that its a small sample size, then I disagree as I've played plenty of games with town-MOI and never seen you do this. Thus I've only seen you make statements like this when you are scum. If your argument is that it only happened once as either town or scum and thus isn't enough data to make it a conclusive scum-tell, then you may have an argument there.
Yeah, that’s it in a nutshell.
But indulge me … list all the games where you have directly experienced MoI Town. I can only come up with 3 off the top of my head and don’t want to Wiki stalk. In two of those games I died N1.
Why is "directly experienced" a requirement? I read games I don't play, and I'm sure you have too. However, here you go:
LMP wrote:But note that you are only making this argument now after I've pushed you on it. Your natural response was "HAHA YOU NEVER VOTED ME IN THAT GAME", which was an attempt to discredit my argument by means other than countering the logic it was based on.
This is so circular logic it hurts.
1. You specifically asked me to respond in a meanful manner. I do and now you try to assert it’s scummy. Way to establish a damned if you do, damned if you don't
2. My ‘natural’ response while being bombarded by crap attacks from all sides is scummy? Sorry I didn’t have 45 minutes to an hour to sit down and properly respond to your one point that wasn’t strong to being with. You aren't a special snowflake who deserves extra attention.
You are trying to twist this. The fact is that rather than attack my logic you setup a strawman ("OH, YOU NEVER CAUGHT ME! YOU NEVER VOTED ME IN THAT GAME").
LMP wrote:I've already done this. The belittling shot was the "oh ya, if you caught me then why did I live to LYLO and you never voted me once".
You are absolutely stretching with this. If I had called your moronic for brining up that invalid point I could see you making this argument. But I didn’t.
You were trying to imply that my argument was bad because I didn't vote you that game. As if to imply that because I didn't vote you, I had no merit. In other words "Don't listen to LMP, I totally snowed him that game".
LMP wrote:Your implication is that I shouldn't be listened to because I didn't get you lynched in that game.
Hold the horse Tex. My implication? You were the one just dismissing my point that your were originally implying something with a wave of the “in context it is plain” flag. My implication was that your assertion was crappy and invalid. Which it is.
No its not.
