OPEN 310 - Medical Mafia - TOWN WIN


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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:09 am

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@Hoppster> I'm not sure I fully understand hypo-doc, so you want us to claim?

Do we actually need to target anyone for protection? Could we choose not to protect, half on half off something like that?
All these different scenarios, I kinda thought this game would be a removal from the norm, but crikey it's complicated.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:14 am

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No, don't claim yet.

Don't claim who you will (hypothetically) be protecting yet either.


Half protecting and half not protecting isn't something I've considered yet.

I'll think about it, but my gut instinct is that would make it more complicated (although less risky), because we have to factor either both scum 'protecting', one scum 'protecting' or no scum 'protecting'.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:19 pm

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Hoppster wrote:DK, how come you still haven't commented on the hypo-doc situation yet?


This is the first time I have heard the phrase "hypo-doc" so I have no clue what that is.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:37 pm

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DeityKabuto wrote:
Hoppster wrote:DK, how come you still haven't commented on the hypo-doc situation yet?


This is the first time I have heard the phrase "hypo-doc" so I have no clue what that is.


We all claim to be doctors and claim our targets. The currently discussed system is each person protects the person below him on the playerlist.

Then after tonight's results we can try and figure out who is what.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:42 pm

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Amrun wrote:
DeityKabuto wrote:
Hoppster wrote:DK, how come you still haven't commented on the hypo-doc situation yet?


This is the first time I have heard the phrase "hypo-doc" so I have no clue what that is.


We all claim to be doctors and claim our targets. The currently discussed system is each person protects the person below him on the playerlist.

Then after tonight's results we can try and figure out who is what.


Oh well I just want to claim my doctor role already if that helps.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:50 pm

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It doesn't, really. Everyone's a doctor but the nurse and the 2 scum, who will claim doctor.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:39 pm

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DeityKabuto wrote:
Amrun wrote:
DeityKabuto wrote:
Hoppster wrote:DK, how come you still haven't commented on the hypo-doc situation yet?


This is the first time I have heard the phrase "hypo-doc" so I have no clue what that is.


We all claim to be doctors and claim our targets. The currently discussed system is each person protects the person below him on the playerlist.

Then after tonight's results we can try and figure out who is what.


Oh well I just want to claim my doctor role already if that helps.



Can we PLEASE kill this fuckin' guy already?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:58 pm

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No.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:58 pm

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What was that? The wind was blowing.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:56 am

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LOL'd. We don't know our sanities ftr, so "claiming" won't help us DK.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:09 am

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Damnit, chk, I typed up all those possibilities to show you how useless just 'claiming results' is to find scum.

You could at least acknowledge it. >>
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:29 am

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Anybody ever tell you you're awful pushy for a frog.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:52 am

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Scum are DeityKabuto and jilynne (failing that, Moratorium).

Discuss.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:02 am

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Hoppster wrote:Scum are DeityKabuto and jilynne (failing that, Moratorium).

Discuss.

You're taking this from the way they sheeped your instructions (ie no questioning etc etc), I assume?

If so I'm inclined to agree. Also something strikes me as off re: DK's reaction to pressure but I'll reread soon to confirm my suspicions.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:28 am

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Quilford wrote:
Hoppster wrote:Scum are DeityKabuto and jilynne (failing that, Moratorium).

Discuss.

You're taking this from the way they sheeped your instructions (ie no questioning etc etc), I assume?


Leading the witness.

Which bothers me because earlier...

Hoppster wrote:
e. Y/N - Do you agree that Quilford's pre-game shenanigans suggest he is likely town?


...Kermit made a point of attempting to clear Quilford, and now Quilford seems to be returning the favor by giving Hoppster an out.

I'd like to hear Kermit's reasoning. I'd also like to hear Kermit's original thoughts as to why Quilford is town.

Newman and chkflip, what's your opinion of post #87?
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:29 am

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Quilford wrote:
Hoppster wrote:Scum are DeityKabuto and jilynne (failing that, Moratorium).

Discuss.

You're taking this from the way they sheeped your instructions (ie no questioning etc etc), I assume?

If so I'm inclined to agree. Also something strikes me as off re: DK's reaction to pressure but I'll reread soon to confirm my suspicions.

Not just that.

The way Jilynne sheeped in paticular the 'null' bit struck me as scummy.

DeityKabuto is partially PoE, partially the early doc-claim.


You're town not only for your "My pregame shenanigans don't really confirm me as town, but you can treat me as confirmed town anyway"... and also for pre-game shenanigans. Mod was actively looking to replace you, which meant you couldn't be scum posting in the scum QT (most Mods open scum QTs pre-game).

Newman is town for the way he disagreed with me got pissed off with me 'in charge'.

Amrun is town for the discussion.

Leaning town on chk for again disagreeing with me, but my town-read is hurt somewhat in that he didn't vote for me despite seemingly being so suspicious.

tim_hill pretty much null.

Moratorium also fairly null, but I have a bit of a gut scum-read.


P-Edit: Here be reasoning, Moratorium.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:54 am

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I disagree on Moratorium.

I am sitting very null leaning scum on HN, but I just nailed him as scum so I'm choosing to ignore that as possible bias.

I agree on jilly, but I have a feeling she's an easy mislynch.

I KNOW DK is an easy mislynch.

That makes me wary since mislynching today can potentially lose us the game.

Need more from timhill. I played a newbie with him once and he was lurky, easily readable scum. That was a long time ago, and I don't know anything else about him.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:26 pm

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Vote HellloooNewman


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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:01 pm

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Is that just omgus or what?
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:08 pm

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Re: Post 87 - Kermit is either bossy town, or ballsy scum. Leaning toward town so far.

@Amrun - No need to rub it in. :)

Re: DK's last post - Can we PLEASE lynch this fucking guy? PLEEEEEASE?!?!
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:38 pm

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Amrun wrote:We all claim to be doctors and claim our targets. The currently discussed system is each person protects the person below him on the playerlist.

Then after tonight's results we can try and figure out who is what.

Key word there being try, but I guess it's worth going for, otherwise it'd be chaos.

um Is this feud between Helooonewman and DK going to jeopardize this game?

Hoppster wrote:Scum are DeityKabuto and jilynne (failing that, Moratorium).

Discuss.

I agree with Amrun on DK I can see that being a vengeful/misinformed mislynch, but with more info a possibility
I have no read on Jilynne.

DeityKabuto wrote:Frogboy (Hoppster), I am town you fucktard.

doesn't really help us much
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:43 pm

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No feud. I just know that the game is better off without him.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:57 pm

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I didn't vote Hopps because, as much as I don't like the ideas, they're not telling in and of themselves.

Also, I agree that it won't help discussion or eliminate doctors if we are to protect the same person; however, I still don't feel hypo-claiming is our best avenue.

Though I will say that, at first glance, I thought you meant hypothetically claiming people and not calling our protects before we protect anyone. This in mind, though, I still feel the same way. Claiming our targets ahead of time is
just as bad
because scum can use that information to their advantage much more than town can.

Either Hello and DK are on the same team (and hate it) or they just hate eachother. My bet is the latter.

Mora, it seems like a pretty far out claim for page four... but I've seen people do it (and be right) before, so I'm uncertain. Why do you ask me in particular?
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:25 pm

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chkflip wrote:I didn't vote Hopps because, as much as I don't like the ideas, they're not telling in and of themselves.

Also, I agree that it won't help discussion or eliminate doctors if we are to protect the same person; however, I still don't feel hypo-claiming is our best avenue.

Though I will say that, at first glance, I thought you meant hypothetically claiming people and not calling our protects before we protect anyone. This in mind, though, I still feel the same way. Claiming our targets ahead of time is
just as bad
because scum can use that information to their advantage much more than town can.

Either Hello and DK are on the same team (and hate it) or they just hate eachother. My bet is the latter.

Mora, it seems like a pretty far out claim for page four... but I've seen people do it (and be right) before, so I'm uncertain. Why do you ask me in particular?


So originally, I asked you because I felt I had a loose town read on you, and wanted to hear more. But then you respond with this...

5 consecutive wishy-washy statements. Might be A, but could be B. I like this, however I like that. This in mind, though. Either A or B. Seems odd but I'm uncertain. You don't want to be pinned down on any opinion whatsoever.

So thanks for messing up my town read, I guess. :/
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:04 pm

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chkflip, explain how hypoclaiming benefits scum more. Break it down.
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