ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[ooba]

Vote Count

LynchMePls (3)

- Nexus, Locke Lamora, MagnaofIllusion

MagnaofIllusion (7)

- DrippingGoofball, LynchMePls, Hinduragi, SpyreX, Kast, Bilbo Baggins, vezokpiraka

SaintKerrigan (3)

- Lost Butterfly, Benmage, Maemuki

Lost Butterfly (2)

- hasdgfas, SaintKerrigan

Maemuki (2)

- Magua, Thor665

Magua (3)

- Setael, AlmasterGM, Empking

Not Voting (0)

-

Nil

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

[Setael]

My vote should be on Magua.

Corrected - ooba

[Thor665]

So, let me get this straight.
1) You think he's scum.
2) You don't want to lynch scum_Magna.
3) You think that keeping him around will help us find his buddies?
4) The Magna lynch is bad logic.

1 - I have never said I thought MoI was scum. I haven't said I thought he was town either - his wagon looks weak enough I would predict town, frankly. I certainly don't think he's scum and am sticking my neck out this far for him.
2 - If I 100% knew he was scum I would lynch him. Other than that this is an awkward question laced with your bias which has no proof.
3. If he is scum, yes, I think him being alive longer will give us more information on his buddies - that's how it is with anyone.
4. Yes.

Because I fail to see how a scumlynch is not a desireable lynch D1. What kinda' Norse weed you smoking?

If we knew 100% he was scum - sure, it's desirable.
If it's 50/50, it's not desirable because he still might be town and will be more helpful after a day than not. Duuuur. Why is this so hard to grok for people? Has no one been in a game where MoI tagged scum within like two days? I have...multiple times.

We do. Set and Spy do. Votecounts are for reading, Thor.

So are Spy's posts when he's mocking me not agreeing with me

Tootown4lynch is not a default state - especially with the conditional "ohh TOMORROW would be fine".

Still confused as to how lynching scum_Magna today is not optimal play.

So apparently being "good" at this mafia thing is enough to spare you from a lynch? Good to know.
OH WAIT.
That's shit reasoning, sorry Thor.
OH WAIT. I'm not sorry.

People legitimately advance the idea of policy lynches Day 1, because "bad" players must be removed Day 1, and regardless of their alignment because overall it will help the game.
I'm advocating a policy...no lynch? Whatever - it's the mirror reflection of the idea. There are certain players it's better to let simmer for at least a night because it is more likely to help town by them being around.

And... if this wagon is weak as sin and made from nothing why in the name of everything holy would it be open to debate tomorrow?

To: Thor
From: Spy and Andy[/quote]
*sigh* I already answered this when Spy said it. I'll answer it again;
His lynch is open, this current crud case would not be.

I agree with LB's question towards you about your cult recruiter call. I also seriously question calling a cult recruiter by a person playing a 'under the radar' game while also pissing blood about attention on Maemuki.

[Thor665]

Here's the non-wall version.

Bilbo is being silly. and bases all his outrage on MoI being 100% scum and the case on him being, somehow, awesome.

I agree with LB's question towards Bilbo about your cult recruiter call. I also seriously question calling a cult recruiter by a person playing an 'under the radar' game while also pissing blood about attention on Maemuki.

[AlmasterGM]

So if you don't think he's cult, is he town or mafia?

[Lost Butterfly]

Thor: have you ever expressed a similar position on someone in a game before? I.e. the anti policy lynch.

[hasdgfas]

unvote: LB

upon re-read, not as bad as I thought, but still sketchy.

VOTE: MoI
He doesn't feel genuine in many of his posts. It feels like "you caught me, but I hate that you caught me for

this

"

I'm also a little worried about Thor, but that can wait until Day 2, as I have to see some of his D2 behavior before knowing what I think of him.

[DrippingGoofball]

hascow, I can't believe you're scum

again

.

[hasdgfas]

hascow, I can't believe you're scum

again

.

good, because I'm not.

[Magua]

I can agree with that. I'd also say that he's more likely to be the CR which I presume is the biggest threat.

Unvote, Vote: Magua

I'm extremely curious: Why am I more likely to be the cult recruiter than cult or mafia?

[Empking]

I can agree with that. I'd also say that he's more likely to be the CR which I presume is the biggest threat.

Unvote, Vote: Magua

I'm extremely curious: Why am I more likely to be the cult recruiter than cult or mafia?

Your sole focus seems to be on slipping under the radar rather than causing mislynches and such.

[Lost Butterfly]

Hey, Magua I know you didn't read Andrius' post and I don't blame you, but what do you think of the fact they think you're the cult leader and don't vote you? Does it make you curious too?

[Nexus]

Fuck you Faraday <3

Andy:

unvote

vote: MoI

Happy?

Seriously though, you guys need to stop being dicks to each other. It's not fun for the rest of us to read.

Pretty please with sugar on top.

[Bilbo Baggins]

@Andy: Whether scum or town, in the games I've played with Faraday he was for the most part charming and light hearted and I don't recall him ever antagonizing a specific player, or allowing another player to get to him. I don't know what to make of his play here. Do you have meta reasons to see this as more scum Faraday than town Faraday?

Exactly. He's not normally this antagonizing. And LMP isn't the one provoking Faraday. Faraday is clearly provoking LMP into... how did Plum put it? If Faraday can get LMP to rage then he can counter that as fakerage, like he did the last game as scum. I don't have much Faraday meta I can speak of besides SkypeMafia, and that isn't exactly the same thing.

I'm confident MoI is scum.

Magua is a CR read for me. He doesn't stand out as buddies with anyone mainly since he isn't really attacking/defending anyone in particular like Faraday is.

Though now that I'm here, I'll add that I'm not reading Andrius' wallpost either.

Its not that bad. I see you posting, and now I'm hatin'. Seriously, if you could try that'd be great.

I'm going to ignore Andy's post, because since they're wrong about me they're probably wrong about everything else.

Not even an 'A' for effort.
Seriously, Set, do you SEE this?

Oh wow, Andy asked if I think LMP is scum. Jeez that's an alignment piercing question and a half! It's almost like reading the thread you'd be unable to tell what I think.

Yet you did actually read it. Why am I not surprised?
I want a straight yes/no from you.
Solid read. Also, you

are

voting Kerrigan over LMP.

Faraday I'm convinced MoI is scum. And I see connections so I brought them up in-QT. And then I posted them here. Nitpicky much?

I'm *really* curious as to why the 'cult recruiter' isn't the person Bilbo Baggins is voting too.

Magna is confirmed scum in my mind. Confirmed is more deserving of a vote than highly suspect is.
I think Thor can agree with me that we'll come back to Magua D2, yes?

Guys, let's all compromise and lynch Magua.

Unvote, Vote: Magua

What do you think of Magna and Faraday?

I'd also say that he's more likely to be the CR which I presume is the biggest threat.

Except he can't recruit until N2- read the rules.

1 - I have never said I thought MoI was scum. I haven't said I thought he was town either - his wagon looks weak enough I would predict town, frankly. I certainly don't think he's scum and am sticking my neck out this far for him.
2 - If I 100% knew he was scum I would lynch him. Other than that this is an awkward question laced with your bias which has no proof.
3. If he is scum, yes, I think him being alive longer will give us more information on his buddies - that's how it is with anyone.
4. Yes.

I'm just trying to understand the logic in the universe where lynching scumreads D1 is not a good move.
1) I can accept that you don't think he's scum. But the issue isn't really whether you think he's scum or not; the issue is that you're against lynching scum D1.
3) I can agree with that, but again- lynching scum > lynching town.

And its not 50:50.

So are Spy's posts when he's mocking me not agreeing with me

And you mock him for his style.
Who are your top scumreads, Thor?

People legitimately advance the idea of policy lynches Day 1, because "bad" players must be removed Day 1, and regardless of their alignment because overall it will help the game.

I follow this.

I'm advocating a policy...no lynch? Whatever - it's the mirror reflection of the idea. There are certain players it's better to let simmer for at least a night because it is more likely to help town by them being around.

Erm, not the same thing. If someone is scummy you lynch them. The logic does not hold in the reverse- we lynched vezok D1 in I'm-not-talking-about-that-game because there was a larger benefit for the town powers-to-be by quick-lynching. Yes, the person we chose was based on policy lynching. But there were other reasons behind it. Not lynching a scumread is lunacy.

I'm also a little worried about Thor, but that can wait until Day 2,

I just found this ironic.

Hey, Magua I know you didn't read Andrius' post and I don't blame you, but what do you think of the fact they think you're the cult leader and don't vote you? Does it make you curious too?

Answered this up there.

Waiting on Plum's thoughts for a couple other things.

-A


predit:

Andy: unvote vote: MoI Happy?

I take it you're not voting MoI solely because I asked you to?

[Nexus]

Well, obviously not. That would be naughty.

It was either MoI or SK, and I fancy a MoI lynch.

[Bilbo Baggins]

Vote Count

LynchMePls (2)

- Locke Lamora, MagnaofIllusion

MagnaofIllusion (9)

- DrippingGoofball, LynchMePls, Hinduragi, SpyreX, Kast, Bilbo Baggins, vezokpiraka, hasdgfas, Nexus

SaintKerrigan (3)

- Lost Butterfly, Benmage, Maemuki

Lost Butterfly (1)

- SaintKerrigan

Maemuki (2)

- Magua, Thor665

Magua (3)

- Setael, AlmasterGM, Empking

Not Voting (0)

-

Nil

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

Updated for relevancy.

[Bilbo Baggins]

EBWOP:

-A

[Empking]

I'd also say that he's more likely to be the CR which I presume is the biggest threat.

Except he can't recruit until N2- read the rules.

I did read the rules. The Cult Recruitor will still be the greatest threat and I don't trust us having another chance to kill Magua.

[Lost Butterfly]

All those quotes and Andrius hasn't read the thread to see my opinion on lmp

[Bilbo Baggins]

I don't trust us having another chance to kill Magua.

Its called Day Two, Empking.
The day that follows the scum-lynch.
Then we lynch Magua_CR before he gets to recruit.
Then we go back to lynching scum.
Badda-bing badda-boom, town win.

-A

[Lost Butterfly]

Empking: thoughts on LMP? I know you think SK is scum still but you think LMP is scum either independantly or with him?

[Bilbo Baggins]

So Faraday why can't you simply say "LMP is scum"?
I

won't

will Lie Detector you on it, so make it flashy.

-A

p.s. You think he's scum. Cool story bro. Hell, while you're at it, why don't you say the following: "I am aligned with the town". Take heart and have faith. The faithful have nothing to fear- certainly not an inquiry for heretics.

[DrippingGoofball]

I can agree with that. I'd also say that he's more likely to be the CR which I presume is the biggest threat.

Evidence?

[Lost Butterfly]

So Faraday why can't you simply say "LMP is scum"?
I

won't

will Lie Detector you on it, so make it flashy.

-A

p.s. You think he's scum. Cool story bro. Hell, while you're at it, why don't you say the following: "I am aligned with the town". Take heart and have faith. The faithful have nothing to fear- certainly not an inquiry for heretics.

I'll do it on the next page, maybe.

P.s. you should really think why you're first paragraph doesn't make any sense.

[Lost Butterfly]

YOUR*

WHOOPS.