ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[Bilbo Baggins]

So Faraday why can't you simply say "LMP is scum"?
I

won't

will Lie Detector you on it, so make it flashy.

-A

p.s. You think he's scum. Cool story bro. Hell, while you're at it, why don't you say the following: "I am aligned with the town". Take heart and have faith. The faithful have nothing to fear- certainly not an inquiry for heretics.

I'll do it on the next page, maybe.

P.s. you should really think why you're first paragraph doesn't make any sense.

I was trying to stress the fact that you seem oddly hesitant to name your scumread, instead being dodgy and avoiding a simple question.
(Yes of course I see what's wrong. That's not the point though.)
Why the next page? Why not this page?

Are you just trying to be a prick?

-A

[Bilbo Baggins]

EBWOP: lol So this is now the "next page" we talked of.

-A

[Lost Butterfly]

Are you just trying to be a prick?

-A

yes. hold on.

[Lost Butterfly]

LMP/Sk are both scum.

I had something to say about this quote but somehow I missed it. Anyways, I like the logic behind it and I'm giving it some thought.

derp more scum.

no sorry you're not my type, maybe if you were town.

I mean your FAKE RAGE is pretty impressive, it carried you through Storm for a little bit. I'm just pretty amazing. you're caught. vote SK, someone will vig you tonight and we'll be off to an amazing start.

Let me get this straight. I ask you a question. You ignore it. I ask you again. You ignore it. And the result from this is that I'M SCUM!? FUCK YOU!

hey guys, LMP's a real sensitive guy when town and replaced out of brotherhood of the wolf for being ~insulted~ guess he has no problem throwing 'em around as scum. SCUM GONNA SCUM. UMAD I CAUGHT YOU? SO FUCKING MAD

and yes, you're scum for being scum who asks pointless fluffy questions which he has no actual desire to get answers in.

also see: rule 2, you are personally upsetting me atm.

So I've hardly *avoided* giving an opinion on LMP....hence me refusing to answer your question, the answer is self evident from the thread...


I am town/aligned with the town. lol lie detector.

[AlmasterGM]

What do you think of Magna and Faraday?

Faraday = town. MoI = Deal with later.

Magua is a CR read for me. He doesn't stand out as buddies with anyone mainly since he isn't really attacking/defending anyone in particular like Faraday is.

So why not lynch him today?

[Bilbo Baggins]

No, but all I asked for was a quick answer and that you denied me.
Hmmm...... Faraday, what do you think of SpyreX?

-A

predit:

So why not lynch him today?

He can't recruit tonight, therein not the biggest threat. Therefore, mafia is biggest threat.

[Faraday]

No, but all I asked for was a quick answer and that you denied me.
Hmmm...... Faraday, what do you think of SpyreX?

Town.

[Lost Butterfly]

No, but all I asked for was a quick answer and that you denied me.
Hmmm...... Faraday, what do you think of SpyreX?

Town.

Yes. This guy has good reads.

also *Please* call the account LB so I remember I'm in a fucking hydra game. Mina's pretty much V/la and only skimmed the thread once but still.

[Setael]

I don't think it's a given that Magua is CR instead of mafia.

Well, obviously not. That would be naughty.

It was either MoI or SK, and I fancy a MoI lynch.

Why is Magua out of the picture for you?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm leery of players that would vote a player over another for unsupported claims of "more likely to be CR."

Just vote scummy. Scummy is mafia, scummy is CR. We're lucky if we hit scum. CR would be nice, but distinguishing CR from mafia this on Day 1 is a pipe dream.

[Nexus]

He isn't. I just would rather a MoI or SK lynch right now. I need to re read Magua, because I can't really think of much that stuck out. Might be because I'm sleepy.

[SpyreX]

I'm gettin a little paranoid about something:

Is this just a general assumption about non-cult scum being in this game or am I bad at reading OP again?

And I'll guarantee from what I remember reading (cult no recruit until N2, pre-knowledge of a cult in this game) that this isn't a simple "cult leader" dancing party. Its probably more zombie-esque with multiple leaders at the beginning or some method to make sure D1-awesome lynch != GG.

[Lost Butterfly]

Flameaxe, Strongman, NPC aligned with Mafia, killed N0

@ SpyreX, from the pregame flavour.

[Lost Butterfly]

Flameaxe, Strongman, NPC aligned with Mafia, killed N0

@ SpyreX, from the pregame flavour.

[SpyreX]

AHHHH yes. Flavor kills my great nemesis.

Nevermind then.

[Benmage]

Riiight so.

Unvote vote MoI

...Haven't read. Can't tonight. Will tomorrow.

[Benmage]

Oh shit looks like I made it L-1.

[Magua]

Uhmmm why he's L-1...unvote someone.

Nvm, I handled it. Going to work. I'll bbl, enjoy.

So, yeah. Bilbo calling me the cult recruiter and not voting me is very odd. His follow up defense ("lynch him D2") isn't the place where warm fuzzies go. However, I'm not seeing the scum motivation for saying it either, from either a scum or cult mindset. So I've tossed it into the "weird but not actionable" bucket.

After several long hours of analysis, I've determined I simply hate Empking's posting style with a passion. In my mind, reading his posts, they always come across in a Ben Stein monotone. Still, slight townread on him. I read his posts as reaction testing, which lord knows, I'm a fan of.

God help me, DGB makes sense with every single post she makes. This is freaking me out more than you could possibly imagine.

[DrippingGoofball]

God help me, DGB makes sense with every single post she makes. This is freaking me out more than you could possibly imagine.

I make sense? Now you're freaking

me

out.

[LimMePls]

Uhmmm why he's L-1...unvote someone.

Nvm, I handled it. Going to work. I'll bbl, enjoy.

So, yeah. Bilbo calling me the cult recruiter and not voting me is very odd. His follow up defense ("lynch him D2") isn't the place where warm fuzzies go. However, I'm not seeing the scum motivation for saying it either, from either a scum or cult mindset. So I've tossed it into the "weird but not actionable" bucket..

It's not odd at all and the explanation makes perfect sense. The mod explicitly said cult cannot recruit until N2.

That said, I agree with DGB's sentiment of just lynching scum regardless of which type we think it is.

[LimMePls]

Also

@Faraday-half-of-LB: Sorry if I went a bit over the line. I had some personal stuff going on Friday that made me a bit... irritable. Some of that rage was misdirected. So if I personally offended you, I apologize.

[Magua]

It's not odd at all and the explanation makes perfect sense. The mod explicitly said cult cannot recruit until N2.

That's assuming he has 100% perfect knowledge that I'm the cult recruiter.

I mean, if the goal is to lynch the cult recruiter, you lynch your strongest suspect. They flip town, you can then look for your second strongest suspect with the additional lynch/nk information.

[Thor665]

2 - If I 100% knew he was scum I would lynch him.

I'm just trying to understand the logic in the universe where lynching scumreads D1 is not a good move.
1) I can accept that you don't think he's scum. But the issue isn't really whether you think he's scum or not; the issue is that you're against lynching scum D1.
3) I can agree with that, but again- lynching scum > lynching town.

1 - I left part 2 in as an answer to your part 1. Please stop putting words into my mouth. I'm against lynching certain players on a Day 1 wagon even if people are bellowing 'obv. scum' because, newsflash, it's not obvious.
3. Sure - this has bearing how in the what now? Are you assuring me that MoI is going to flip scum? Because I don't think you are. I want to be on the record for being against this lynch, in the odd 33% chance he flips scum I'll look silly, in the more likely 66% considering the gak case I'll look brilliant. I'm game for those odds.

Who are your top scumreads, Thor?

Maemuki for sanity reasons.
Benmage for not crowing about the MoI lynch more.
How about you vote Maemuki instead...she's scum, and, y'know, we can't possibly not lynch scum, unless you're un-American or something.

Erm, not the same thing. If someone is scummy you lynch them. [snip] Not lynching a scumread is lunacy.

Let's pretend i was really good at the game of Mafia (you'll have to work with me on this example )
Okay, so let's say I'm good enough I have a 10% better than average chance to peg scum within two lynches.
If you think I'm "scummy" you conclude that it's definitely not worth keeping me around to see my reads on Day 2? Even if you want to lynch me Day 2, and I flip town, I'll have served town better. Yeah, if I'm scum you bought me a day - consider it a 1:1 trade or something. I don't feel this is an off the wall concept I'm shopping here. Why don't you try to explain, strategically, why I'm wrong instead of just going "THOR DOESN"T WANT TO LYNCH SCUM!" Because...that's either not an argument and/or is strawman enough that it's not valid to sell me on anything.

I'm also a little worried about Thor, but that can wait until Day 2,

I just found this ironic.

I found it histronic, but I don't take my pills enough.

[Thor665]

Thor: have you ever expressed a similar position on someone in a game before? I.e. the anti policy lynch.

No.
I've probably made less explicit calls of 'let's not lynch Player 'X' today, but certainly nothing like this.

EBWOP = Dorf, forgot this with last wall - ignore the man behind the curtain!

[MagnaofIllusion]

Well I see unsurprisingly I've been pushed to L-1 while on vacation.

I hope collectively you are smart enough to allow me to give my assessment and reads before going through with this inane lynch.

And make no mistake it is an inane lynch.

There isn't any case that holds even the slightest amount of water out there.

Mostly just people budding up to DGB because she's 'fun' and a load of people more interested in not rocking the boat than critically thinking.

I will leave Town with one read since I'm not going to be vindictive and tell Town to rightfully Fuck Off since it would not ne in my win-cons best interest.

kast is scum. Look at his contribution to the game. Kast is a long winded player. look at any of his Town games. Yet here ne hops on my wagon with zero input. And has done nothing else.