Dynasty Warriors Mafia (Shu Victorious)

[Katsuki]

So Iece, what do you think of a no-winner situation?

[Gammagooey]

Ludi is scum though >:[

Ludi is absolutely the most connected person to Bastard and T-bone, made a bullshit softclaim and refused to follow up on it, completely reversed his read on me the instant I started the duel while simultaneously attacking me for changing my read on him, and blatantly lied about my last post discussing him. Half the things he's attacking me for he knew about and said nothing about before I dueled him, it's 100% survival instead of trying to scumhunt. And he pulled the exact same I'M GONNA GO AWAY YOU BETTER LYNCH THIS GUY INSTEAD OF ME shit that T-bone did with his duel.

[Iecerint]

To answer the question you directed at DUM --

I don't think there's a scum motive in what Ludi's doing, either. The players he's pushing to join his wagon have explicitly requested claim sub-details, and he's refused. So it makes me annoyed at him, but it doesn't really make me think he's scum.

P-edit:

@ Katsuki -- Bad idea. I think both town > 1 scum > both scum.

@ Gamma -- Some of what you're saying makes sense, but I also started to hit SoD on you around the same time (albeit not for the same reasons), so I'm discounting some of that. I do agree that he's Shuscum if he's scum, though.

[Gammagooey]

SoD?

And it's all about effort- he doesn't want to have to go through and look for information as scum when he thinks he'll probably die anyway, so he fakes outrage and says he won't bother. The claim is similar, if he actually thought I was scum claiming to avoid death and help get me lynched would absolutely be worth it, but he thinks either it would look townier to refuse or just doesn't have a fakeclaim character that matches his softclaim and won't claim so he won't become insta-scum.

[Iecerint]

I guess (1 scum + both scum) might be reasonable enough to chance no winner, come to think of it. O.o

P-edit: Suspension of disbelief. I started to have doubts about you around the same time he voiced them, albeit for different reasons (e.g. yet another 1-kill night).

Re: the other -- I don't think that's how I would react in scumLudi's situation at all, but I suppose you may be right. <_<

[Katsuki]

T-1hr to deadline!

[Katsuki]

Vote: Gamma

W-2 I think.

[Gammagooey]

It's W-1 I think actually.

I'll go make a votecount so Spy doesn't have to worry about it in half an hour.

[Gammagooey]

Unofficial vote count.

Gammagooey (W-1) ~ Gammagooey, RayFrost, Maxous, C-Worl, Katsuki
Magister Ludi (W-3) ~ Magister Ludi, Drunken Unicorn Master

Not Voting:Mykonian,Iecrint, Vi

With 10 players 6 decides a winner.

[Gammagooey]

Wait Vi's votecount was WRONG! (the horror)

NEW AND IMPROVED Unofficial vote count.

Gammagooey (W-1) ~ Gammagooey, RayFrost, Maxous, C-Worl, Katsuki
Magister Ludi (W-

4

) ~ Magister Ludi, Drunken Unicorn Master

Not Voting:Mykonian,Iecrint, Vi

With 10 players 6 decides a winner.

[Katsuki]

Well you have 14mins before GG gets GG'd.

Post-flip should be very interesting though.

[Gammagooey]

Well you have 14mins before GG gets GG'd.

Uh you do remember that we're voting for the winner right? hence the W instead of L.
Or are you talking about something that I'm just not understanding at all.

[Iecerint]

O.o

I had a passing moment of faux brilliance where I hypothesized that Gamma was Sun Ce, but then I realized that Gan Ning never served under him. <_<

[Katsuki]

Well you have 14mins before GG gets GG'd.

Uh you do remember that we're voting for the winner right? hence the W instead of L.
Or are you talking about something that I'm just not understanding at all.

If you don't get another vote, you die.

[Gammagooey]

No I don't.

A.)Duel - You may post once per day "Duel: Player Name". At this point, only votes counting for you, the player you have dueled, or for neither will be counted. At the end of 48 hours or when one category has a majority OR deadline would activate, the category with the

most votes

wins the duel and all other parties are killed and the day ends.

[Katsuki]

Once again my reading skills shine.

= =b

[Gammagooey]

PMed SpyreX about the duel ending but I don't think he's online right now, gonna go play League of Legends but I'll check in tonight before bed to see if anyone has questions about stuff or if the flip arrived.

[SpyreX]

The battle never ends. War is now all we know. No celebrations anymore, for they only lead to more death.

As it is with this one.

Magister Ludi - Cao Ren of the Eight Tiger Generals of Wei

has been defeated.

Note: Be civil. You know who you are.

[ReaperCharlie]

I don't see how my claim would change anything at all regarding people opinion on me. Either I am town or not. It will be beneficial when I win this duel that I have not claimed.

As for Gamma being town, I had him/her as town until this poorly thought through duel was initiated, and I have reversed my read. At any case, I am not going to vote myself to lose this duel, and every flipped initiating duelist (Lu Bu and Guan Yu) so far has flipped anti-town.

Gamma insistent repetition of "Ludi is scum" "so scum" is a rather poor argument, merely repeating the same statement many times to get it to sink in. If I lose, he will merely tuck his tail between his legs and say he was wrong and needs to 'recalibrate' or some other such thing.

He will then attempt to get away scot free. Seriously, on a reread, I have had trouble identifying what he has done that is particularly town sided. His role is equally as likely scum as town, he has pushed on a ton of town players, and is generally closed lipped.

As for 'not suspecting t-bone' I nailed that joker on his first post in the game and didnt back off except for one statement on his post that in fact DID sound town.

[RayFrost]

Stay inside you're hydra dammit.

[Iecerint]

...

Cao Ren is famous for defending Jing province for Wei for a long time even though he was outnumbered and for defending Fan Castle against Guan Yu. I would have inferred something defensive, but I dunno what would've made Ludi not want to claim. : /

[Iecerint]

I think it's relatively likely that exactly one of Gamma and Vi is scum...

I think massclaim is the next step. I think it's best if Gamma and Vi go first, then we popcorn through the rest.

[Gammagooey]

So apparently I'm terrible at this game.

I'm going to just save some time and go ahead and claim.

I'm Xiahou Dun of the Eight Tiger Generals.

D.) Ability is Fearless, it makes any duel I start not end the day, Including the first duel I use it in.
^yes I don't actually have to win a duel before it kicks in and it doesn't go how other D. abilities go but that's just how it works.

A.) Ability is The Empty Eye, and is a roleblock. Used it on Rayfrost last night, you have the other nights already.

I'm pretty much expecting to die from either Vi or I can start another duel tommorrow so you don't have to waste a lynch on me.

Maxous is my strongest non-role-madness town read in the game. His shit about suspecting me was wrong but was absolutely a legitimate town thought process. He's been thinking like town there and in his other posts.

Don't kill myk until either he claims or he gets modkilled for inactivity. Ask SpyreX exactly when the duel has to be delayed to for him to die to BaM and off him then if he doesn't show up-I do have some more doubts about him given that elvis flipped town but they're not nearly enough to want to kill an empowered guy that looked town early on without a claim.

I still think Kats is the most likely remaining green-scum.The Toasty suspicion and Vi thing was decent but it being on town means it could just be a strong scum push once he knew he had decent reasons and Kats hasn't really had any strong stated reads since then.

I blocked Rayfrost last night, and given my town read on him earlier I really think he would have made the kill if he's scum- he's probably town.

C-Worl is still probably town for his earlier comments to Toasty but it's one of my weaker reads.

If you guys would like to wait until myk gets back for him to claim that would be fine, otherwise I'd choose Katsuki for popcorning next.

[RayFrost]

I just realized it says "renmoved" and not "removed" - haha, mod. u so clever.

[RayFrost]

Gamma, you're roleblock I can confirm to not have hit me. Not I-got-a-result kind of confirm but it's-not-possible kind of confirm. Pretty sure on the resolution of this.