Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

[Duplicity]

Had a talk with Regfan last night. frankly, I'm a lot more apprehensive about lynching TS than he is. Fact is this: We agree at least one of farside or locke has to be scum based on voting and a TS/prosaurus team being extremely implausible, my direct concern is figuring out which one today. He thinks they're bussing him right now, I'm not so sure about that because I can't see the motive. I haven't been posting because I was busy and because I am not used to the pressure of lylo, but I am working on a case. Regfan has told me he will be away from the site before deadline so we might be voting today, I'm not sure yet.

[neil1113]

@Mod, do you mind telling us who reviewed the game?

Sure.. at the end of the game. Unless you have a valid reason for wanting to know now?

Vote Count #1.4:
Day Four

Twistedspoon

(2): Farside22, Locke Lamora

Locke Lamora

(1): Twistedspoon

Duplicity

(0):

Quilford

(0):

farside22

(0)

Prosaurus

(0):

No Lynch

(0):

Not Voting

(4): Prosaurus, Duplicity, Locke Lamora, Quilford

V/LA

(0):

Prodding:

(0):

With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Deadline

for Day Four is

5:00 PM EST 06/05/11

[farside22]

So I say FS is scum, it's almost guaranteed. Then it's also close to being guaranteed for TS or LL scum.

Honestly your case is all PoE then anything else. I have given numerous reason's day three why I find TS scum. Nothing has changed my view. Seeing people repeat what I said yesterday is just frustrating.

[Prosaurus]

@LL I don't actually know. It's suicide for scum to do it, and there's no reason for town to do it.

@FS Yes, it is. I doubt Dup is scum, and either one of LL or TS is scum (Unless it's a really dumb bussing attempt). That leaves you.

[Duplicity]

As G pointed out I'm going to have highly limited internet access for the next few days, I'll make an effort to get on, read and catch up with this game whenever possible otherwise G is going to have to take control. I strongly believe that TS is still the optimal lynch even though our last conversation ended with his suggestion of lynching between FS/LL but reading through them again today I'm nowhere near certain on either of them being scum.

G, I likely won't be able to see you online until near deadline but my thoughts are exactly these: I strongly believe Pros is town and TS is scum. I have a slight town-read on LL due to his interaction with TS. I still read FS/TS's interactions as something that initially would make me doubt them as partners, however FS/TS is more likely than LL/TS. Therefore my personal vote preference order is: Twistedspoon > Farside > Locke > Pros.

[Duplicity]

Yeah, enoughs enough. Twisted just logged in, posted in all of his games and /inn'ed for new games without even a slight bit of effort shown in this one even though it's lylo and deadline is near.

Consider this post as me showing intention to vote Twistedspoon if I log on again before the deadline.

[Twistedspoon]

Yeah, enoughs enough. Twisted just logged in, posted in all of his games and /inn'ed for new games without even a slight bit of effort shown in this one even though it's lylo and deadline is near.

assumptions

but whatever, I've said i don't know who the scum are and I'm tired of saying that this lynch will cost the game for us
You've already made up your mind so I see no reason to delay my lynch. This wagon is scum driven. That is all

gg scum

[Quilford]

Twisted

if you're being lynched it's generally your fault

[Duplicity]

1) It's not an assumption, it's a fact you've shown no care for this care at all.

2) If it's scum-driven who's the scum driving it other than Locke?

3) My mind isn't completly made up, especially with G disagreeing with me therefore saying 'gg' is seriously pointless. If you're town you need to show it, you need to show effort to scumhunt you need to stay why you're not a good lynch apart from saying 'i'm town'

[Twistedspoon]

1) It's not an assumption, it's a fact you've shown no care for this care at all.

2) If it's scum-driven who's the scum driving it other than Locke?

3) My mind isn't completly made up, especially with G disagreeing with me therefore saying 'gg' is seriously pointless. If you're town you need to show it, you need to show effort to scumhunt you need to stay why you're not a good lynch apart from saying 'i'm town'

1) I have shown care. Well I tried. I'm just no good. You know this isn't my scum play. [redacted]
2) I don't even know. LL, Prosaurs, Farside. I have no clue

VOTE: No lynch

3) But how do i scumhunt? D:

[Locke Lamora]

I already looked over your recently completed scum game and determined that your scum play here is very reminiscent of there. So what are we missing? All you keep doing is saying that lynching you will lose us the game and that you don't know how to scumhunt. Guess what? Neither of those things are a towntell.

[Prosaurus]

I agree that TS hasn't done much in this game, but neither have I. I'd rather play it safe and lynch FS...

[Duplicity]

Just logged on hoping to see lots of material knowing that it's only

20 hours until the deadline

to find close to nothing, not liking this at all.

[Duplicity]

VC 2.1 further proves my belief that EA+Farside can't be scum together. I don't see them piling on a legitimate cop claim with NE knowing full well that even if TS managed to get lynched NE would be lynched the following day forcing them both to have to explain their votes. What's utterly frustrating is that G continues to disbelief and doubt the strength I have in the TS-scum read and is insistant upon lynching elsewhere today.

I believe G is currently in the process of putting together which should be up later today. Under no circumstances should a no-lynch occur, doing so forces tommorow into a position similar to now where nothing is produced and everyone wonders around until deadline with us likely being night-killed.

[Prosaurus]

@Dup So you think it's a TS/FS scumteam?

[Duplicity]

I'm leaning that way at the moment, only slighty though.

G is much more contempt with a FS lynch and considering I'm having difficulty managing to persuade him to vote TS it's likely FS will get or vote.

[Prosaurus]

Well it's not a TS/LL team, unless they're bussing in MyLo. So I'd say it's someone (Looks like TS now) and Farside.

[Duplicity]

Prosaurus: If you think it's farside, vote farside, then. It's what I'm going to do. Here's why.

#157 by farside is weak distancing, says they don't like NE's case, no real follow up with NE

#257 comes off with a town-read on M=W and names a bunch of stuff she doesn't like about NE's posting, but gives a null/uncertain read without really justifying the uncertainty. Both NEvil and farside dart around commenting on each other's alignments through day 1. Notable to recall that NEvil was pushing TS and prosaurus for a lynch day 1. I'm not dismissing the possibility of bussing but I do think it's worth bringing up .

next mentions of M=W's alignment come when he suddenly becomes the lynch target for day 1: #454 and #501 where suddenly his recent posting is scummy, no mention of prior towntells despite claiming to want to re-read him. Additionally, she puts an FOS on NE while hopping on the same wagon as him. Basic, fairly played-out scumtell, but to me it still looks fairly valid. criticizing the vote of someone on the same wagon on you doesn't make sense as town and given M=W flipped town and NE flipped scum it looks really bad.

Day 2 flip-flops on NE/TS lynch, argues on lynching TS pretty hard when the tide looks like it'll turn his way, and ends up stuck on TS at the end of the day. #734 by maxous does a good job summarizing this. response by farside in #762 looks weak in hindsight.

Hops on the maxous lynch as self-preservation, she never provides much of a reasoning for thinking maxous as scum

In regfan's own words he's uncomfortable with farside's play today, not sure what his exact words were but she's been pretty...reserved(?) about today's lynch (hate to be vague but it's the best I've got)

I know this is way late to be putting out a case but if we end up no-lynching, I want farside dead tomorrow. I keep disagreeing with Regfan on TS, it just looks like a trap to me, although setup spec keeps biting me that his claim shouldn't make sense I'm feeling like trying to outguess the mod is less effective than what my read of the game is telling me. Regfan has basically compromised with me on this.

VOTE: farside

[Quilford]

VOTE: farside

Good.

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: Farside
roll on

[Twistedspoon]

is that my win now?

[Twistedspoon]

ah it's 4 to lynch

cripes

[Duplicity]

Twisted just claimed scum.

Unvote

[Duplicity]

I don't fucking care what G thinks or feels about Twisted anymore there's no way he would ask if it was his win upon hammering Farside.

Vote: Twistedspoon

[Duplicity]

Apologies for the triple post but I feel it's needed to point out that the fact he said that upon hammering Farside also means that Farside is town making his partner Locke. Locke is going to cry when he reads this.