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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:31 pm

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So it's all "let's guess what the mod thinks" and "this doesn't make sense to me if I were modding" stuff?

Not sure how I feel about that.
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:33 pm

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So I wake up to a duel declared on me.. sweet. And RC, the reason you declared a duel on me was..? Last time I checked you said your read on me had fliped to town.

Dat Unicorn - 1468 wrote:And VI I CHANGED MY MIND. KILL RAYFROST INSTEAD.
But RayFrost completely avoiding talking about the duel between Gamma and MagisterLudi AT ALL, pretty much means he and Gamma are scum together.

This is some fairly interesting points.
Petinent question here:
Why the hell did you not duel RayFrost!?


Vi - 1469 wrote: It certainly helps to leave a paper trail, especially when the person in question is scum and you've only explicitly said negative things about him before calling him Town.

Huh?
The only 'negative' things I said about him was that he was being hasty regarding duels. In ISO #25 I in no uncertain terms declare I have a town read on him.
I did'nt delcare anything he done 'scummy'. So if a person does'nt do anything I find scummy then...I think they are town. :neutral:

Γ -1481 wrote: The T-bone vote wasn't GOOD but it would be fairly as ballsy as scum

No it was'nt and that is the point.
Unicorn dude stated he clearly beleived T-Bone was town over Iecerint.
However RayFrost said he was voting T-Bone as a way
to test abilities
while stating one or either could be scum. He did'nt declare his own personal read on either of them. It was 100% the easy route.

RayFrsot - 1484 wrote: I've no idea on how I'd ever get my D)

You would have to declare the duel yourself obviously..
And you claim to have asked the mod about this? And he did'nt clarify that is what you would have to do?
This seems quite strange.

And C-Worl's duel ability is a roleblocker and nothing else?
Even when gamma's active ability is roleblocking? Hmm.
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:36 pm

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As for my claim I am Yu Gin - one of the five generals.

My duel ability is called Daylight. Once per game I can block all actions at night. Complete negation if it works.
Hence my early suspicion of Gamma - it seemed too town over-powered to have both these abilities. And then lump Vi's ability in with this as well.
But Gamma is not a lyncher and giving a mafia extra lynches ain't exactly pratical so w/e
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:21 am

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I'll claim the rest of what I know now.

The person on the other end of my Neighbor thread is obv. Katsuki. It took longer than I wanted, but I got a claim from her. I think it would be better if she said what her role is just because it's better for her to not lurk every once in a while.

The other interesting thing about that Neighbor thread is that Katsuki told me she actually meant to target RayFrost. So I know the Nexus ability is true. In fact, I don't think anyone has fakeclaimed abilities. This also means that in the event that RayFrost is scum, Katsuki is almost certainly Town. What I was hoping to learn from RayFrost's claim was if he knew that Katsuki targeted him, because he picked a rather convenient time to softclaim.

Maxous's ability is tempting. I don't think it will interfere with anything pro-Town at this point. My choice to win is tentatively Maxous.
Fake edit: Maxous, do you have any other abilities?

C-worl's claim is the closest thing to a fakeclaim I've seen all game, looking at the wiki.

RayFrost's ability requires more intellectual meandering but the short of it is that I am for his lynch.
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:36 am

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Iecerint wrote:I hadn't noticed that he was implying EXACTLY AND ONLY those 3. That changes things.

Upon reread, also:
Magister Ludi wrote:It also appears you DID know
why I choose those three characters
of Shu, (being principle proponents/brothers) yet saw fit to try painting my expression of Shu as somewhat maligned or weird or anti-town. I do not think it was at all.
As for Wu, its your guess as good as mine, considering that the Quan family has four members plus sisters.

Bold added. Ludi is assuming 3 scum per team and ruling out the possibility of 4; otherwise, his comment about Wu would make no sense. O_O

Inside information, etc.

VOTE: Magister Ludi


Ludi made perfect sense, arguing from the point where there were 2 scum
teams
. As explained later, 2 teams of 4 made little sense (too much scum). As per Vi analysis, a 4 man scumteam isn't odd, while 3 man would be a little in a 20p game. 5 players would be rather a lot, seen that this could have thrown town into a virtual lylo after day one.

Gammagooey wrote:Iec I thought that 4 scum might be balanced TOTAL until Spy said that the duel could be a double lynch instead of just a force-lynch 1 person deal.
There's just waaaaaaay too much potential for snowballing effects with 2 scumteams that big and one or two potentially poor town decisions. If Spy put in that many scum on
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team (I COULD see 2 of 3+a SK) then I will send Spy like 20 pictures of my avatar glaring at him post game.

I don't really see how what I did was cautious and am ever so slightly hurt by the implication that I'm not fun but the rest of myko's post is pretty cool.


Bolded what is bugging me here. Otherwise, good analysis. Doubt that they are scum together.

This would be the point where I should do some hardcore data analysis of the person left. If I had a clear mind and lots of time.
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:16 am

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Vi wrote: Fake edit: Maxous, do you have any other abilities?

None that I am gonna mention.

As for fake claims: Flavour-wise T-Bone had a viable character and ability claim. It is safe to assume the mod has given the mafia good safeclaims so not adding up according the wiki is'nt really a scumtell.
Unless for some reason mafia C-Worl decided to stray away from the claim given to him.

As for Katsuki and RayFrost - hypothetically if they are on the same team she would know his fakeclaim, and told you she targeted him accordingly. It would'nt be that hard to fake.
Did she mention why she targeted RayFrost?
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:36 am

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I've no knowledge about people targeting me.

I softclaimed at the time people were speaking of dueling / killing me to stave it off because of the fact it wouldn't have ended up with a result anybody would want.
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:43 am

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And again, RayFrost completely bypasses the large elephant in the room and concentrates only on explaining himself and not getting killed.
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:42 am

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Mrrr? I don't have time to make long posts in between games of LoL. /addiction
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:44 am

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Maxous wrote:
And C-Worl's duel ability is a roleblocker and nothing else?
Even when gamma's active ability is roleblocking? Hmm.


For starter's, I don't like the "rb but nothing else!?" and then claiming a global RB and nothing else.

And then not really stating anything about it.

Explain the result of your "Hmm"ing or I shall assume that you were "Hmm"ing to the tune of notreallycommenting.
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:52 am

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Between DUM and Maxous, I'm torn from the perspective of being stupid. Which I am.

DUM's got this supah sweet cop abillity.

Maxous has got this supah sweet global RB.

Ability-wise, I'd say maxous should win the duel.

Reads-wise, I've got a kinda solid town read on RC from the sheer rash stupidity he's displayed. The in-hydra conflict doesn't look faked to me, which would kinda be necessary considering made up reads and the like. On maxous, I'm leaning town but not really sure on why. Feelings. I like my gut, but I've been sick lately. Who knows if I'm right. After all, I just experienced the rather gross and painful process of slowly peeling a mucus-covered sore from my nose. Mind = broken.

For the time being, I prefer maxous over DUM based on ability preference, the fact the sore makes me think of RC, and the fact DUM started a premature and moderately stupid duel on someone he didn't have claimed suspicion of (nice catch by maxous there, admittedly)
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:07 am

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Time to let go of all other reads too!

consider my vote in favour of Maxous. It will be there as soon as other people are ready etc.
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:08 am

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Ray - 1508 wrote: Mrrr? I don't have time to make long posts in between games of LoL. /addiction

The length of your posts are not issue nor were long posts required.
If you were reading the thread enough to explain yourself you could of spared 1-2 lines stating who you agreed with and who you think is mafia. Even if you were skimming since your ISO 76 - around 15 posts from you at the time of my last post.
What is your opinion of mykonian?

RayFrost - next post wrote: Explain the result of your "Hmm"ing or I shall assume that you were "Hmm"ing to the tune of notreallycommenting.

As in I am unsure and thinking about it.
It seems weird that somebody's duel ability would be the exact same as somebody else's run of the mill active ability. So gamma just has this ability anyway but C-Worl gets this ability as his big prize? It seems off.
Maybe C-Worl is lying/witholding information. I am considering it.
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:22 am

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@ Everyone calling our duel stupid:

Drunken Unicorn Master wrote:Vi. Your next kill will be mykonian.

Town's next duel victim will be Maxous, and I will duel him, and come out the victor
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So it has been written, so shall it come to pass.

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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:47 am

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apparently I'm not allowed to vote yet. Something with claims and a Vi kill?

and I will vote you.

It's still a stupid duel. And saying that you would duel changed little.
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:01 am

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In further news of whyRayfrostwhy:

Rayfrost wrote:Mod: Do D) abilities count as A abilities? By this I mean to ask if it's possible to use both a D and an A ability on the same "night" phase.

Why did you ask this question?
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:49 am

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FENCESITTING
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:58 am

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I forgot that Katsuki never claimed.

I guess we're still waiting on her to confirm Vi's claims.

Also, please point out whether you two claimed Neighbors earlier in the game.
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:37 am

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Claimed => crumbed*
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:57 am

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Iec look at Kat's iso for like 45 seconds.

I'd like to do some no-risk claim checking tommorrow after my double duel if it isn't LYLO at the start of tommorrow- If Iec duels Ray and it gets randomized Iec is voted to lose and we fall back on a regular lynch because of his ability- if either of them lied to avoid getting dueled or losing duels then insta-scum lynch.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:00 am

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Ugh, I have stuff I REALLY wanna say, but I need Katsuki to claim.

Claim, womyn. :P
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:06 am

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Gamma's plan sounds OK.

I glanced through it with selective ctrl+f "Vi" and "neigh," but really don't have time to pour over it in too much detail. Am taking a USMLE diagnostic. Katsuki has to claim, anyway.

I have my megapost made up in notepad, so that's different. :P
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 am

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Vi, pending Katsu's claim, I am revising my tentative kill list.

{DUM, Max, myko}


myko >>>>>> DUM >>> Max (>>>> Katsuki).

Basically, please kill myko. He is scum. Very certain.

More after Katsuki + Vi-shot.
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:23 am

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Actually, you can probably throw in C-Worl somewhere below myko and before DUM/Max, given Max's inclusion.

OK NOW I AM GOING SEE YOU IN ~4 HOURS.
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:22 am

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omg OMGUS KILL IECE.

in any case, why kill me? Just say as I asked, Vi, and I'll suicide against Gamma.
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