Mini 1185 - Artemis Fowl Mafia Game Over

[kiwieagle]

VOTE: Sleepykrew

Hasn't confirmed .

[kiwieagle]

Greetings to everyone I have played with before. To those with whom I have never had the pleasure, I look forward to getting to know you better.

With that, let's skip the RVS this game and getting straight down to detective work.

At approximately 6pm, eight out of thirteen players had confirmed. Of the five players who had not confirmed, four of them had posted on site since role PMs were dispatched. However, there is one person who was posting on site, but had not confirmed his role PM: MehPlusRawr. Over ten hour after that, he had posted yet again, but had still failed to confirm his PM. To me, this is a mystery. After all, when you're on site and you see that juicy, delicious "A new private message is waiting for you in your Inbox" box pop up on screen, who can resist clicking on it and reading the PM? And after you've read the PM, it only takes a second or two to confirm. So why wouldn't MehPlusRawr? My hypothesis is that scum have pregame talk and MPR decided to go check out the quicktopic and chat with his scumbuddies before confirming. That, or he had an overly complicated role and did not understand it, which is also more likely to be scum because they have a higher concentration of normal and factional abilities. Thus...

Vote: MehPlusRawr

Spoiler: Metagame haters, click here:

And no random vote either? Just defense?

So you tell people not to RVS but then you tell him he did a bad thing by not doing a random vote?

[kiwieagle]

L-1 so quickly?
what did he do? just make a meaningless vote on page 1 just cause he agreed with someone?

[kiwieagle]

Ok I thought Katsuki was softclaiming an investigation result on vollkan

. I really will go read everything this time <_<

Sorry - in way too many games right now. Might have to be a flake for once and replace out.

o.O

[kiwieagle]

I do not understand why you think he is scum.

Let me put it in terms you'll find easier to understand then?

"HERP DERP I'M VOLKAN. HEY AGM, YOU'RE STARTING A

SUPER SRS WAGON?

AND I CAN JOIN WITH IMPUNITY? LET ME HOP ON THAT BITCH."

In other words, his joining you on your confirmation time crusade was the most opportunistic vote I've seen on Page 1. Ever.

It was totally trying to ride your coattails.

It was one vote?
and it was RVS?
and then you say

"his joining you on your confirmation time crusade was the most opportunistic vote I've seen on Page 1. Ever."

opportunistic vote? im sorry...?
it was a simple RVS, and he agreed with someone why does that make it so

HERP DERP I'M VOLKAN. HEY AGM, YOU'RE STARTING A

SUPER SRS WAGON?

AND I CAN JOIN WITH IMPUNITY? LET ME HOP ON THAT BITCH."?

And even if he did "ride the coattails" of AGM....why does that deserve L-1?

Something really opportunistic might of been Sleepkreew hoping on Volkans wagon...

[kiwieagle]

[quote="AlmasterGM

Sorry for not getting here earlier! I was traveling and din't expect this to start until I arrived. Onto business now:
VOTE: volkan
For not spelling his name the way it should be spelled. And for not liking RVS. Why didn't you do something yourself to get us out of RVS?

This post does not smell good

You are right. The post above does not smell good

. Two people have called vollkan real-scum. You cannot walk in and RVS-vote him without commenting on that.

You did the same...Vollkan had 4 votes on him and you just came and RVSed...

I think he's real-scum too. Allow me to dissect my post.
1. Spelling:
RVS joke
2. Not liking RVS:
Leads into the next point
3. Not getting us out of RVS himself:
And here's the seriousness. If you dislike RVS so much, then DO something about it.

And something that happened after the post:
So, MPR has given a proper defense. It's been checked, verified, etc. Why didn't you check it yourself instead of saying "Bah! I'm the interrogator! Bah!"

This also answers the other question to me, correct?[/quote]

[kiwieagle]

wtf went wrong with that quote?

[kiwieagle]

Sigh.
What does a question have to do with someone being mad acomist?

[kiwieagle]

yeah a lot of people hate RVS because they prefer not to have to force themselves to be casual; they want to get into pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up

we call that lot of people "scumlors"

Acosmist+5

1) You are saying having a meta dislike of RVS automatically makes a person scum?
2) If yes, why?
3) If no - then suppose a player with said dislike read AGM's post and thought "Hmm, that sounds like a good idea". What should they do?
4) Why are you pulling "pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up" out of your arse? I don't think I've done that at all this game, so inserting it in your attack just seems to be a way to make me seem scummy for no basis whatsoever

1 yep
2 cuz RVS is a pure mirror into alignment and that terrifies scum
3 lolumad
4 I was attacking you waaaaat

This is what I meant.
Dont assign emotions to people, without reason.
You didnt even answer his question,
all you said is
lolumad

[kiwieagle]

Yes I know what conditions are
if no
if yes.
That stuff.

I wasnt telling you to answer the question.
I was telling you why does him asking you a question make him mad.

[kiwieagle]

dont need to give me the huge explanation (just noticed it)

[kiwieagle]

Imagine a series of questions like this:

1. Are you a cop?
2. If so, whom did you investigate last night?
3. If not, who do you think is the cop?

Now imagine the answers are:

1. Yes
2. [some player]
3. No answer

Would you then criticize the guy for not answering question 3?

I hope not. I hope I don't have to explain such basic things to you! I think I might! It might be one of those games!

Once again, I wasn't criticizing you for not answering. I was criticizing you for the exact opposite. For answering with some thing irrelevant and dumb.

And yes DeathNote is right.

[kiwieagle]

Once again, I wasn't criticizing you for not answering. I was criticizing you for the exact opposite. For answering with some thing irrelevant and dumb.

And yes DeathNote is

right.

sorta right

How to say this.....


I feel that everything pertains to a mafia game, no matter whats the conversation. And any type of conversation brings reads.

What I agree on,
is that me and aco should stop bickering.

[kiwieagle]

UNVOTE: volkan
Well, I guss it's time for him to claim... already? L-2 now, with my vote in essence on him.

Krew+7

,

Unvote, Vote: Krew

Let me very clear as to why, so that I don't get howls of "OMGUS" from the more lobotomised of you. Aside from ignoring my response he proceeds to push the wagon beyond the point of no return by demanding a claim. If he was town genuinely trying to ascertain my alignment, I would have expected a response ordinarily, but especially given that he was trying to force a claim. Coupled with the fact that he initially voted me for random reasons, then slides in the seriousness afterwards, I think it merits 7 points. Joining a wagon for random reasons, then adding on some weak serious reasons and, of all things, UNVOTING before demanding a claim reeks of trying to slip in under the radar.

Does that look like a demand? That is me being unsure. I was surprised that you got to L-1 so quickly, hence the "already...?" and was asking if it was too early for a claim.
Also, I don't understand how much more clear I can be. My vote on you WAS. NOT. RANDOM.
I also unvoted so as to prevent a quicklynch. Would you like my vote to go back on you?

The point thats its not random. MAKES IT WORSE. its a horrible vote.
You just hoped on a freakin wagon with NO REASON.
And why do you even threaten him about voting on him?




@bobsnox.
I like the change (from not paying attention, to paying attention)
I hope that atleast by halfway the game im able to make good ISOs like that (This is my 2nd game, bare with me).

[kiwieagle]

Which of your Null are leaning town/scum AlmasterGM>?

[kiwieagle]

Why is Sleepy acting as if though he is not in L-2?

[kiwieagle]

Why are people voting kwanton?
That is not mafia play.
It is noob play.
Though how come he is playin noob idk he has been in the site for a pretty long time.
Lets get sleepy tonight.
Getting kwanton would be sort of a policy lynch.

[kiwieagle]

*today

[kiwieagle]

with 2 deaths is it vig or SK...
like what do you guys think it is?

and eli why does bob seem obvtown.

his first posts were a bit whacky and then he finally posts a good post, and suddenly hes obvtown according to you.

[kiwieagle]

vollkan (5): Lady Lambdadelta, Leiskyrie, Katsuki, Ellibereth, MehPlusRawr
SleepyKrew (4): kiwieagle, Kwanton, AlamasterGM, vollkan
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SleepyKrew (6): kiwieagle, AlamasterGM, vollkan, bobsnox, Lady Lambdadelta, Ellibereth, SleepyKrew

Ok...so volkan wagon has scum, Lady/Katsu/Leisk/Meh. Nothing there yet.
But Sleep busser if we take out obvtown bob leaves Lady/kiwi.

and you were in the wagon aswell?
and
why does voting someone for a good reason make it bussing?

[kiwieagle]

answer my questions.

[kiwieagle]

meh.

was curious why bob is suddenly obvtown...
care to explain why thats scummy?

and who will start with name claim?

[kiwieagle]

yeah since some pressure is on me I don't mind starting with the name claim.

Wing Commander Vinyaya

.

Trouble Kelp

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi is scum for every post he's made this page, but we can deal with this AFTER the nameclaim.

atleast I post.

havent seen you post anything useful

and explain why plz?

or is posting too hard?

[kiwieagle]

Not that you are going to believe me but my actual role is Chix Verbil. I figured since I was a lame role and that Artemis Fowl is who we are looking for, I doubted that he would be in the game and tried to pull a night kill on me.

Lynch All Liars

VOTE: deathnote

[kiwieagle]

Wasnt chix that ugly fairy that wanted to kill arty?

[kiwieagle]

Sleepy, that's why you claim your own character name, and make it seem town.

Life lessons~

DeathNote should of done this.


But still....

Isnt chix the antagonist?

[kiwieagle]

Oh...

But there both fairies right?
:hopeful:


And katsuki could you please post content
instead of point fingers and say "hes scum, lynch nao" without stating why.

[kiwieagle]

Bodyguard

[kiwieagle]

Bodyguard

Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Please try and be a little more obvious in your rolefishing. >.>

Kats, I don't endorse a claim unless you really think it will help town a LOT. Even then, I still think it is a bad idea.

He was gonna claim anyway.
Wanted to see how close flavor is to the actual role.

Nexus votecount plz.
Im too lazy to count how many votes deathnote has

[kiwieagle]

4 votes on DN.

And i dont wanna have the same you had with Acomist lol.
Since all bad guys seem to be mafia ( the goblin guy scalene )
And good guys seem to be town.
Why shouldnt charachter has similar traits pertaining to a role?

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: have*

[kiwieagle]

[quote=If AGM would be still alive he could of said something]Welcome to iPod Mafia, Player Nopointinactingup!

“Follow our intuition
Free your inner soul
And break away from Tradition”

You are Let’s Get It Started, by The Black Eyed Peas – Modern Superstar Pop [Godfather]

You are the most powerful and popular of the pop music on MagnaofIllusion’s iPod. You and your fellow pop music works are tired of the heavy influence that the old and tired rock music cabal has. It’s time for something new, something fresh.

Your partners in crime are Katsuki and Glass.

Abilities –

“And the bass keeps runnin’ runnin’ ” – Passive Night Power: Your heavy use of driving bass notes and synthesizers makes you fit right in with the dominant Rock genre. If you are investigated by a player that investigation will return the information in your Mod provide fake-claim for Song Title, Artist, and Song Style. This information is consistent with a Town result.

“So when I bust my rhyme, you break yo necks’” – Active Day Power: Once per game you can exert your influence and may attempt to destroy a song during the day. To do this you must post in thread the phrase Daykill: Target on a separate line in a post. If you choose to use this power you will forfeit your Faction Night kill the following Night.

”The feeling’s irresistible and that’s how we move it” – Active Day Power: You can use the power of your lyrics to influence others to achieve your goals. You may vote to lynch each Day.

“Burn it till it’s burned out’” – Factional Night Power: Once per Night you and your fellow Mafia members may choose to attempt to kill a player. This may be sent either by PM or posted clearly in your Mafia QT. In the case of disagreements about kill targets a majority opinion will be accepted as the Factional choice. In the case a majority opinion cannot be reached the decision will be made by the top ranking Mafia member alive. The order of rank is Godfather – Roleblocker – Neighborizor.

“Don’t worry ‘bout it people we’ll walk you through it” – Factional Day and Night Power: You may converse with your fellow Mafia members at all times HERE.

Win Condition – You win the Mafia member equals or exceeds the number of other players alive and at least one Mafia member is still alive, or when nothing can prevent that situation from occurring.[/quote]


Day Kills for godfathers are getting more common.....

If DN is town

gogoogog lynch on acomist!

[kiwieagle]

ok damnit
tag fail.
Point is I quoted a game witch had godfather with dayvig.
and then I said:


Day Kills for godfathers are getting more common.....

If DN is town

gogoogog lynch on acomist!

[kiwieagle]

It's called a mafia assassin. "Mafia dayvig" is a contradiction in terms; "vigilante" does not denote merely a killing role, but a town killing role.

Deflection is adorable, kiwi.

Deflection of what?

[kiwieagle]

And my bad.

I ment to say daykill.

[kiwieagle]

Ehhhh.....
Yay?

unvote

VOTE: kwanton

If anything after deathnote, he was next in line.
No content.
His first two posts were a bit "wow what the hell is he doing"
And after that hes barely posted much

[kiwieagle]

hmmm.....

unvote

VOTE: deathnote

if hes scum,
maybe he chose me because he wants a mislynch on me.

If he is not scum,
maybe he thought I was scummy.

[kiwieagle]

Deathnote, I'm curious, why don't you see anything town about bob? He's like beaconbeacontown to me.

And... now that LLD has revealed she fake day killed me, I can not imagine why she wouldn't be town. As scum, there is no reason not to day kill a claimed cop that everyone wants dead... it just benefits scum-LLD too much.

Also. This logic. It makes no sense.

Because I'm stupid and think that the Mod's bastard flavor thing is a bluff and I'll actually read peop;le later..I;ll be doing flavour analysis which I usually hate. Yay.

Elli - Angeline Fowl
Kwanton - Wing Commander Vinyaya
Kiwi - Trouble Kelp
Lady - Mulch Diggums
Bob - commander Root
Acos - Corporal Lili Frond
Meh Plus - Corporal Grub Kelp
Katsu - Butler
Leisky - Artemis Jr.
Death Note - Artemis Jr./Chix Verbal.

Okay, with Scalene...others two are obv Opal. and probably Cudgeon.
Root, Butler, Arty, Mulch are fairly obv characters. Mulch's alliance is questionable...but at least not scum.
sooo, Vinyaya, Kelp, Frond, Chix.
Ok here's the thing. I can't see Scum NOT bussing sleepy somewhat D1 for some cred. I mean, he was so obviously going down that was such a scumbuddy happen.
SleepyKrew (6): kiwieagle, AlamasterGM, vollkan, bobsnox, Lady Lambdadelta, Ellibereth, SleepyKrew
..that leaves lady and kiwi. Gah.
Kiwi is probably not scum. With Deathtown he's conf'ed. With Deathscum...I don't think Deathscum would fake the innocent on his buddy.
Katsu's V/LA will be an issue if we massclaim though...timewise. And he already wanted to claim earlier so it would be necessary in it gah.

aggggggggggggggggga screw this. I mean theoretically and like whateveritically we have to kill Death Note. But I keep hesitating. Damn it.
yeah Blag, I'll be voting him in a few hours. So if people want to say anything now blahblah. No self-hammer this time.

Whats wrong with trouble kelp?
I havent read the book in a long time....
but trouble kelp was like the police.

[kiwieagle]

With what's looking 2 NK's keeping Death alive looks risky...
Hmmmmagah.
...

I'm seriously debating massclaim,

would help organizing this sooo much easier.

Should we start tbh?
Katsuki claimed anyways

[kiwieagle]

yeah ok.
I SHALL CLAIM
trouble kelp....
the leader of the....
*checks PM*
LEP!


is actually......






















-suspense-





























-more suspense-






















a.....










VT!
no PR for such a cool guy...

[kiwieagle]

Bodyguard

Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Please try and be a little more obvious in your rolefishing. >.>

Kats, I don't endorse a claim unless you really think it will help town a LOT. Even then, I still think it is a bad idea.

It does no harm, and it's for the lols.

Plus the game's prolly ending tonight so doesn't really matter.

Butler the Modified Elite Bodyguard~

I could always ask the same question.

[kiwieagle]

Whats wrong with claiming?

Kat claimed.
Eli was thinking of doing a mass claim.

It was a matter of time.

[kiwieagle]

oh and
Kat was in favor of one.

[kiwieagle]

So two people were in favor of it.

thats 20% of all players.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're exposing power roles.

If Mafia were smart they would be trying to get a power role that has already claimed = kat

Cool, you can die after DeathNote and Kwanton.

Cool, you are already 100% sure who will die and who will not. Cause if your mafia, you dont want your scum-partners dying.

[kiwieagle]

20% of all players

Yes! cause guess what! 10% < 20%

is actually YOUR ARGUMENT

like

that should be MINE, because that's, you know, a point in my favor

Well, mafia already has a target, so let's tell them EVERYTHING about the setup! Make it really simple!

Yes cause one claim, tells them EVERYTHING about the setup!

If I am mafia, I don't want my scum-partners dying. Isn't that uh...trivial? Like, if you satisfy your win condition, you achieve victory. What a vacuous statement. Are you calling me scum? Can you man up and do it? No hypothetical to hide behind! Come on!

Sigh

[kiwieagle]

and 10% > 0%! That means that anyone could want to massclaim, and we'd all go on our merry way!

Do you know what disagree means?

Did I miss where 10% was the threshold for approving an action in mafia? Typically it's...you know, 51%.

Mafia threshold =/= claim.

Do you want to massclaim or not?! You are changing this story awfully quickly!

Point to me where I changed the story plz.

Say trivial things some more! SOME MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAR

DIG THAT HOLE DEEPAH

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: threshold for approving an action in mafia*

[kiwieagle]

Y U CONTINUE TO POST WHEN U WRONG

INTERNET Y U EXIST

So trolls like you didnt have to stay under the bridge all day long.

[kiwieagle]

Y U CONTINUE TO POST WHEN U WRONG

INTERNET Y U EXIST

So trolls like you didnt have to stay under the bridge all day long.

Is this how you answer exam questions? "Professor is a troll, don't care."

It was a rhetorical question I decided to answer.
exam question? yeahhh...no.

Also.
Wtf leiskryie?

[kiwieagle]

Katsuki and Leiskryie are calling me scummy without telling me why
:l

[kiwieagle]

or when im NKed....
If I die tonight due to being confirmed town heres my thoughts on everyone:

Town

LLD
bobsnox
Katsuki
Ellibereth
MehPlusRawr
Acomist
Kwanton
Leiskryie

Scum

[kiwieagle]

Kwanton might be:
scum
or
newbtown (look at his join date though.....)

he may seem scum, but theres always the possibilty of him being noobtown


Leiskryie:
Barely any content.
Gut feeling she is scum.
Dont know how to elaborate.
all her posts were never larger than a paragraph.
Always pops in to answer a question.
Its as if though she posts little, so she attracts any attention.
also her recent post was a bit opportunistic

[kiwieagle]

Hmm....
true.
Lemme rephrase.

I think he is acting newbtown more than scum.

Though he still is the scummiest.

Not sure if I worded that correctly...

[kiwieagle]

Can you please explain why.....
I seriously dont know why you always call people scum/town without saying why...

[kiwieagle]

[kiwieagle]

Im alive!
/happy

[kiwieagle]

Yes.
Thats why im suprised to be alive.
Though....
Acomist...
He fought with lots of people tbh
and katsuki who did you protect?

[kiwieagle]

Leaning Scum

MehPlusRawr
Elliberth
Kwanton

Null

Leiskryie
Katsuki
LLD

Leaning Town

bobsnox

^^ changed my scumreads
leisk goes down due to NK
katsuki heads up.
LLD gets pushed up due to NK
MehPlusRawr has been lurking ever since initial wagon. Scummy.
Elliberth is null leaning scum. Lurking aswell.

Im starting to believe kat's claim is fake.


-Its the higher you are the scummier-

[kiwieagle]

Im not sure I have anyone 100% scum or 100% town.
Who I would like to lynch:
MPR or Elliberth, maybe kwanton aswell.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: I still dont have anyone 100% scum or town

[kiwieagle]

This thread is so quiet tbh.


POST PLZ

Vote:MPR

for the sake of making this thread more active

[kiwieagle]

Kwanton is lurking a bit, after everyone's initial wagon tbh/
Bobsnox is quite right.

[kiwieagle]

translation:

Ah you know what you bean? We should be able to communicate with each other with the Chinese.

[kiwieagle]

Why are you:
"Oh ok lynch me, no problem!"

also, should they both claim and we decide from there?

[kiwieagle]

yes

[kiwieagle]

MPR: Flavor, and why N1, restrictions etc.?
and methinks Kwanton should be claiming too, peoplez agree right?

Basically, I'm a wimp that can get away from all the scary murdering action. N1 because I have no idea how to play a commuter- I decided that it'd be best to at least use my power as much as I could until near endgame. I can't commute two nights consecutively.

also yes, Kwanton should claim.

Why would mafia NK you, if people were already suspicious of you?
Mafia dont NK possible mislynches.
"I have no idea how to play a commuter"
Well neither do I, but its common sense.

[kiwieagle]

Unvote

VOTE: Kwanton
Kwanton is confirmed scum after that post.

[kiwieagle]

i'm part of a council that wants to protect underworld and haven.

" Uhhhh my character is a goblin so they will call me scum, so I will have to invent something, just that - I haven't read the book"

Is what this post tells me.


And why would deathnote lie elib?
Lei is right.

[kiwieagle]

And lie read the final pages of D1

[kiwieagle]

No.
I just read my flavor.
Its not REMOELY similar to yours BS: 'm part of a council that wants to protect underworld and haven.


what is the name of your character?

[kiwieagle]

V/LA until sunday night

going to the beach, might post in cellphone.