Jedo the Jedi wrote:Ghost's information tease does seem suspicious, but at the same time, it's believable to me because I just had a game where I received information like that. We'll just have to judge based on the information itself.
I really don't understand all the stuff going on with hiphop. I've read the ISO, I've read it in context, and it doesn't stand out to me. Then again, I didn't see anything suspicious about Voided and the town was on the money with that one. Apparently, I'm not very good at seeing the micro-slips which are indicative of scumminess.
I'm down with scrutinizing the lurkers and those who just plopped their votes on hiphop with no explanation. I do want to say, however, that lynching hiphop is perfectly acceptable. From what I understand, this game is self-balancing, so town will be on the off-hand until one of us dies. Additionally, I've considered that the power the scum acquired might have been something along the lines of seeing a person's colour. Anyway, I just remembered something I want to go investigate. I'll divulge if it turns out to be correct.
Context for this post: hiphop is L-2 after Glass's unvote. Jedo here covers his back by excusing himself for missing any scummy points, sets up lynches on anyone who voted hiphop without explaining it and then maintains that hiphop is a fine lynch anyway. In short, lazy and hypocritical with a helping of fence-sitting.
Jedo the Jedi wrote:hiphop wrote:He posted, I pushed quote, typed what I wanted to say, then continued on in another window....Finished and I hit submit.Glass wrote:I don't get it, you quoted that line just because it was the only thing to quote? Why quote anything at all if it has nothing to do with your vote?
I looked back at hiphop again, and this is what gets to me. The whole xvart vote is strange. He didn't find xvart scummy (there's a post along the lines of "how could he possibly think xvart scummy because he clearly said the first town death" or something), but he voted him anyway which it turns out was RVS. xvart challenges this because we were clearly out of RVS, and hiphop counters by asking when RVS arbitrarily ends. The thing is, he quoted xvart talking about wanting powers and voted him in that same post. If it's RVS, why would you quote that? Usually when people quote then vote it is because they are voting based on what was said there, but you are claiming that is exactly what wasn't happening.
The final question in this Glass quote sums up my thoughts very nicely. Please give a better response to it for me, hiphop.
Preview Edit: I like that last catch by Rhinocke. I had forgotten about that. I'll wait for a response, but my vote is probably going on hiphop.
Context: same as the previous, except Rhinox has just pointed out another reason why hiphop is scum. Cue declaration of intent to jump on the bandwagon.
Jedo the Jedi wrote:Post 174 is :badposting:. Too bad you didn't respond better.
Giving Ghost until tomorrow morning to post his info before my vote goes on hiphop.
Context: hiphop is still at L-2, with Hotdogs' L-1 vote and Packbat's unvote. This is just stalling and a little coaching. I mean really, who says 'too bad you didn't respond better' to someone they genuinely think is scum?
Jedo the Jedi wrote:vote hiphop L-1
Context: well, I think that's pretty obvious vote-wise. Ghost has said he's poisoned, confirming he's town and ruling out any possibility of a hiphop reprieve.
Jedo the Jedi wrote:That case is chock full of WIFOM like you said, Glass. Plus, that second post is a good scum gambit. If he dies, there's only one scum left and those aren't good odds going into day 3 even with self-balancing mechanics. What's more, those powers are no good against a town who can catch scum without needing to use powers.
I think we should lynch hiphop anyway. The posts point too much toward scum, and we can learn a helluva lot from his death. And like I mentioned before, we might lose a townie, but that means two townies gain powers.
Context: hiphop is still L-1. Glass is arguing for hiphop-town. This just looks like a straight-up scumslip to me now that I re-read it. 'If he dies, there's only one scum left'?! Betraying more information than he ought to know if I ever saw it. The rest of this post looks forced and over-justified. To me it reads like a buddy resigned to the fact that hiphop is digging himself a massive hole and he's going to bus him relentlessly because he can't see any other way out of it.
So yeah, Jedo's attitude to hiphop is super-scummy. If you can't see that then you're not reading the game.
-Locke
