Dynasty Warriors Mafia (Shu Victorious)

[Magister Ludi]

Gamma, your antics this game were pretty much anti-town, the duel mechanic should have been used for two very scum players to both be killed, essentially doubling as two lynches.

As for claiming, It I see no reason to at any point in any game. Would people really have stopped and said 'wow, he claimed. Must be town!!'

Vi, I think you need to consider vig shots more carefully. Or at all hehe.

I really have no idea where people got their scum reads from in this game. How were people ignoring Iece all of day one again?

Toasty wagon I was right on, every player on it was town. Unfortunately, he was not scum.

[SpyreX]

Yea. force of habit with my setups that I should have realized. REALISTICALLY, if I could do it over I'd be a jerk and probably not let Zhuge perform the kill at all.

[Gammagooey]

Yeaaah Ludi me dueling you is my biggest regret this game, I got too anxious after seeing one scum abuse the system to get rid of a lynch and thought you were really likely to be scum given how Bastard and T-Bone acted towards you when I should have waited for a massclaim.

[Magister Ludi]

Waiting at all for the day to progress would have been a much smarter move, we still had a slight chance at that point. Not to be concieted, but once I died I think the game was pretty much over.

I still maintain that calling out scum correctly is in fact NOT a scum tell.

Anyways, I'm a little bitter here right now, but still I lost and scum won. Take away things to improve my game, learn, and will be back next time.

[Iecerint]

Plenty of people had scum reads on me D1. I was lucky that RedC flipped scum, because it let me make some good fake independent contributions.

Also: I legitimately thought you were scum D1. Gamma impressed me by accurately characterizing what I was doing in one of his early posts.

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: Flipped "scum"

[Gammagooey]

@Ludi-I wasn't calling you out for calling scum, I thought you were scum because of Bastard's & T-bone's comments about you (with the exception of you thinking that one T-bone post was town), not the other way around.

[Iecerint]

SX, what led you to include generic characters? I guess you're a fan of the novel?

[SpyreX]

Gotta mix it up some.

And, really, part of it was characters I could steal pictures from and quotes from easily.

[ReaperCharlie]

Full list of town players:

RedCoyote
ToastyToast
inHim
Juls
GreyICE
DietyKabuto
AGM
elvis_knits
Magister Ludi
mykonian
Maxous
Vi
Katsuki
Gammagooey
Druken Unicorn Master

Full list of town players who played well:



Like how scum let both vig roles live because you were playing so poorly it was like having an extra scum kill.

This, so hard.

(except for Juls and AGM, who to be fair sucked 99% less than the rest of us)

Maxous was town? lolwut
mykonian was town? lolwut
Vi was town? WUT

Iecerint had me fooled.

C-Worl, no comment.

RayFrost was who I'd have had cop results on in the morning though. He'd been flipping back and forth between a town read and scum read the whole game, and I didn't like it.

I was so right in reading that there was only one scum team, but I was still so wrong, because I fingered (and dueled) all the wrong people.

CSL + me trying to hydra is a very bad idea. Not happening in the future.

Well played, scum. Particularly Iecerint.

And, really, part of it was characters I could steal pictures from and quotes from easily.

Yeah, I feel ya here. ;P

[Magister Ludi]

Best Town Player:

Juls (seriously, check out her reads)
elvis

Best Scum:
Rayfrost (no one voiced any real suspicion after day one)

Best Part of Setup:
The Lu Bu Role

Critical Point:
Scum on Scum duel Day 3 ending in scum victory

(gamma, that its in my opinion a generally illogical and false path to find the scum, especially when you neglect to consider the entirety of the thread and players in whole. )

[Iecerint]

I was convinced that Katsuki was Wu-scum offering me an olive branch for like 70% of the game.

Thought the same thing about DUM and Vi from time to time.

XD

[Amrun]

That Lu Bu role reveal will go down in infamy.

[Iecerint]

RC, I miss being scum with you. SEII was so much fun. D:

Fun fact: DK could've clarified that Wu wasn't in the game if he'd claimed his wincon...AND that Vi was town.

[ReaperCharlie]

I was convinced that Katsuki was Wu-scum offering me an olive branch for like 70% of the game.

Thought the same thing about DUM and Vi from time to time.

In a way, I was. But you stabbed me in the back. lol

RC, I miss being scum with you. SEII was so much fun. D:

Yes. Yes it was. One of my favorite wins onsite.

Let us make a pact to play together in a mini soon.

[Maxous]

Well I knew this was happening (obviously)

I enjoyed this game overall even though it was frustrating at times - The theme was interesting.
I don't think the situation with Red Coyote's flip affected anything really. It did'nt change anybody's reads and as a matter of fact the flip balanced it'self out along with AGM's choice of words (as in we knew there was only the scum-team left after Amrun's flip)
RayFrost's re-direction was a bit meh but the town had the potential to kill 3 times a day. We lost because we got the reads wrong.
Once Juls got NK'ed it went downhill.

From a personal standpoint: What was the best way to handle the unrequited lover situation I had?
I got freaked out that Vi was killing people unclaimed when I knew I could confirm somebody as 100% town, and then I really regreted opening my mouth about looking for somebody because it put more suspicion on me but if I said something the mafia would of just killed Vi and boom.
I was thinking of bluffing and saying I could only use Daylight if Cao-Cao was alive but that would of also put a red-mark on Vi. It's a role I never experienced before and I think it showed :p

Thank you for the moderation SpyreX and well done to the mafia team.

P-Edit: Oh yeah I will remember DK's claim for a long time xD

Another P-Edit: @Iecerint: I could of claimed Vi was town at any time.(since Cao-Cao was in my role PM)
Hence my disbelief of your 'suspicion'. I would'nt of allowed her lynch.
Though you were arguing it so hard I was trying to decide if you were lying or just really confused

[C-Worl]

C-Worl, no comment.

[Iecerint]

@ RC -- I came through and let you win the duel in the end, though.

P-edit -- Re: Max -- Yeah, but that wouldn't have mattered as much, I think. I had you as scum with Vi, etc.

And my suspicion was legit. That whole story was legit. The scum QT is full of me ranting and raving about what sly scum Vi was, etc. <3

[inHimshallibe]

GG

[ReaperCharlie]

Also ... death miller?

THIS ISN'T A REAPERCHARLIE GAME.

[Gammagooey]

Oh Rayfrost if I were in your position then I would have just played like a jester to try and make Vi shoot me (and thus itself) after DUM started the duel instead of truthfully claiming- Did you consider doing that at all?

Also tell me if you're playing LoL later tonight cause I want to play with you >_>

[ReaperCharlie]

Can you update the OP please, Spy?

Also, whoever said I am better at town than at scum made me laugh out loud.

ReaperCharlie#Mafia_Statistics

[RayFrost]

RayFrost was who I'd have had cop results on in the morning though. He'd been flipping back and forth between a town read and scum read the whole game, and I didn't like it.

That would have just been ever the more helpful for my team. You'd have been redirected to Vi, get a town read on me, and then bam. Woohoo.

To those complimenting my play in this: I didn't really do too well. I mean, I lurked to victory over the last day rather than just actively promoting the win.

Gamma: I'm on LoL right now.

[ToastyToast]

Ugh, town just played poorly. I didn't play 100% and got lynched for it. Still, I'm happy that I was 50% right on my reads, more if you count later suspicions of DK.

SInce I was suffering from N1 on in the dead thread, this is what I see:
1)Too many players thought their way of playing was the right play. Gamma did not duel correctly once, Vi caught third parties but seemed oblivious to the scum, DUM hydra was distracting, DK should have claimed who he was supposed to kill...A lot of things that SHOULD have happened just fell through.
2)Too many kills a day. When town saw that there had only been one green flip, they should have played more conservatively
3)Letting the "I have no read" people live (C-worl)
4)Believing that scum wouldn't oust one another to power themselves.
5)Too quick to duel

GreyICE is right to say that no town player did well, and its unfortunate because the setup was great.
I definitely think my reads killed me this game (poor evidence), but I'm still pissed off that people found this to be scummier than any other person in the game--enough to be lynched on a purely town wagon..

[Iecerint]

Well, I mean, I don't think more than a handful of people really thought any of us were town...this wasn't like some other scum games I've played where I felt like town had no idea what was going on...

I think town got discouraged by some bad luck earlier on. That bad luck led them to seek out other opinions that they'd disregarded as scum at first. The result was that we could control what was happening while still having town believe that they were personally responsible for the various bad outcomes.