Square Enix VI (MAFIA WINS)

[vezokpiraka]

Hey guys.
Come join the awesome hiraki wagon. We've got katsuki.

[Katsuki]

This game just isn't fun anymore.

Also Lowell needs to be policy-lynched/shot. I have no plans on letting him win via LURK2VICTORY.

[JPSalazar]

Limited Access: 3 days, maximum.

Reason: Death in the family. Will appear sporadically, if possible.

My vote on Parabollocks will stay. I'd honestly suggest myself to be lynched or killed at night just to prove that I'm NOT scum, but someone will stroke their chin and type on the keys and say, "That's a scum play" or something.

People have hopped on Para and then hopped off. Same with Diddin. My reads were on C-Worl and I was honestly trying to get a sense of Reck, but now they're gone. Reck was honestly one of the bigger contributors before Amrun went on a tear. I'm going to say Amrun's a solid town read...but I could be wrong. They did replace Elsa, and I was really thing Elsa was scummy.

I've not liked Hiraki's play, because I've got a bad vibe...but it's just not good enough to vote based on a vibe.

I'm also not going to follow the norm and pick apart every. single. post. like others have done. If they want to, they can...but I have read every bit of contribution.

In no particular order, I feel the list can be (in no particular order):

Para
Hiraki
Vezo (leaning BY A STRAND OF HAIR to town)
Moratorium
Panzerjager

If I had to add another, it'd be HellloooNewman.

[Moratorium]

Opinions on recent topics:

Amrun <-> Pops is still two townies.

Kdub appears to be rolefishing on Hiraki's "100% scum" declaration.

We still have a bit too many VI's/Low content/"GET ON MAH WAGON" players.

Hiraki needs to expand on what he means in post #787 where he just linked to some apparently random game.

Parabollocks's defense on being on every early game wagon appears to boil down to "It was only three wagons". Three is enough, it was every early wagon, and your vote shifts had minimal public reasoning behind them.

Para's case on bobsnox feels like weak tea to me, but I'd still like to see a response from bobsnox.

[Amrun]

Moratorium, I asked Hiraki for scum meta.

[Moratorium]

Limited Access: 3 days, maximum.
Reason: Death in the family. Will appear sporadically, if possible.

My condolences on your loss.

In no particular order, I feel the list can be (in no particular order):

Para
Hiraki
Vezo (leaning BY A STRAND OF HAIR to town)
Moratorium
Panzerjager

If I had to add another, it'd be HellloooNewman.

This is the first time my name is mentioned in a JPSalazar post, and it happens to occur in his first post following my calling him out on lack of reads:

So JPSalazar, Chronopie and Parabollocks all profess to having "no reads".

Sorry, but that just translates to "I'm too lazy to read the game" for me, with a pinch of "I'm scum and can't fabricate that many opinions". If I can sit down and ISO everyone in the game (and that post took me probably thirty minutes, just a quick skim on everyone), anyone can. I award you all bonus scum points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

So I'm going to call OMGUS on that one.

[Parabollocks]

Parabollocks's defense on being on every early game wagon appears to boil down to "It was only three wagons". Three is enough, it was every early wagon, and your vote shifts had minimal public reasoning behind them.

Para's case on bobsnox feels like weak tea to me, but I'd still like to see a response from bobsnox.

the case on bob is pretty weak if you look at it, but it's a case for curiosity, i'd also like to hear bob respond, and i'm glad amrun gave me the details that elsa hasn't even played with chess and voted with him for no reason besides his meta intuition.

that bit of information makes me feel better about bobsnox, because i didn't know that, however as amrun said, he said he voted chess as a ploy and never followed up on it, so that's another reason.

I agree that Pops v. Amrun is TvT, at least for now.

[Parabollocks]

also i would respond to your opnion on my defense but i don't feel the need to seeing how all i could say is basically a parrot of what i've been saying.

[HellloooNewman]

Unvote, Vote: LobsterCatapult

SCUM.

100% SURE.

Why isn't this getting more attention? Hiraki, are you actually sure, or just exaggerating?

Agreed. Hikari, whats the deal?



Jesus, I don't even know what to say about this game. Half the time, I feel like I don't even know what you guys are talking about (and yes, I have read and re-read the thread). The other half, it is a bunch of random shit that doesn't even half pertain to anything particular.


@ work right now. Will try to cobble together a coherent post with reads when I get home tonight.

[JPSalazar]

My condolences on your loss.

Thank you. Should have seen it coming.

This is the first time my name is mentioned in a JPSalazar post, and it happens to occur in his first post following my calling him out on lack of reads

If it means anything, you've got my lowest confidence in actually being scum.

[LobsterCatapult]

Unvote, Vote: LobsterCatapult

SCUM.

100% SURE.

Why isn't this getting more attention? Hiraki, are you actually sure, or just exaggerating?

Agreed. Hikari, whats the deal?



Jesus, I don't even know what to say about this game. Half the time, I feel like I don't even know what you guys are talking about (and yes, I have read and re-read the thread). The other half, it is a bunch of random shit that doesn't even half pertain to anything particular.


@ work right now. Will try to cobble together a coherent post with reads when I get home tonight.

idk why hiraki is 100% sure im scum, because he is 100% wrong.

[PJ.]

Dude JP salazer seems so damn scum to me.

Just a lot of the motives behind his posts have been super shady.

Vote:JPSalazer

[bobsnox]

Para's case on bobsnox feels like weak tea to me, but I'd still like to see a response from bobsnox.

Sure - what exactly is the case though? It seems to have changed the last few times Parabollocks has posted. He feels better about my Chess vote and he sees that it's different from Elsa's Chess vote.

Parabollocks - see above. What is it I need to answer at this point?

[diddin]

VOTE: Parabollocks

This is a good lynch. As others have said, he has been doing a lot of poorly-reasoned bandwagoning. He also seems to keep backpedaling with his case on bob, which was fairly poor in the first place.

Officially off V/LA.

[popsofctown]

vote: parabollocks

if it's not there already.

He plays more protown than this as scum.

[Amrun]

So are you saying he isn't scum, pops? Sounds like that to me but I want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding.

[popsofctown]

He plays more protown as this, even as scum.

[Amrun]

So if he's playing differently than he plays as scum, do you think he's town that should be policy lynched, or do you think he's scum?

Does anyone else see a scumslip here? I do but I don't want to confirmation bias myself into oblivion here. It looks like pops knows parabollox is town.

[LobsterCatapult]

vote: parabollocks

if it's not there already.

He plays more protown than this as scum.

im also confused by this.

[Parabollocks]

I'm playing lazy, what can i say, i'm not taking 100% into this game as i usually do, so excuse me.

Sure - what exactly is the case though? It seems to have changed the last few times Parabollocks has posted. He feels better about my Chess vote and he sees that it's different from Elsa's Chess vote.

Parabollocks - see above. What is it I need to answer at this point?

Basically that you voted chess, elsa followed, and apparently that was all a ploy to catch scum, you then do a bunch of other shit that bothers me.

here's the post for reference. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p3118901

This is a good lynch. As others have said, he has been doing a lot of

poorly-reasoned bandwagoning

.

He also seems to keep backpedaling with his case on bob, which was fairly poor in the first place.

Officially off V/LA.

must i parrot, god?

C-worl wagon was started by me as an RVS vote, afterwards, i felt the vote was pointless, however, when he changed his attitude from troll to town tool, it bothered me and i put my vote back on him.

people wondered "i thot you said it was POINTLEZZ to vote him!?!?!?" and i respond "no, i think after being pressured with votes and his sudden flip on how he plays is bullshit and is playing a survivable game."

Couple of shit happens, and i vote DK, i wanted to believe the man was just a VI (and he was) but he did alot of scummy stuff you can't just mark-off as "VI."

my last vote was just for a wagon, simple as that, i didn't pay attention to what was going on but whatever.

I know it's poor, i know it's backpedal, but people keep asking me to give something and i thought "eh, i'll throw a bone to them and make that bobsnox case." i'm glad i did, as i said, amrun added some information to it which makes me feel better about it, but that's a parrot, and i keep parroting, and i hate parroting, sqwak.

[popsofctown]

there's generally protown players and generally antitown players. If someone is generally antitown, they'll be very anti town as scum, and somewhat anti town as town. If someone is generally protown, they'll be very protown as town, and somewhat protown as scum.


Since I've seen pb play pretty protown as scum, his bar is raised. The same way the bar is lower for some 8 players in this game that have done nothing useful whatsoever

[Amrun]

That post is missing the conclusions I asked for.

[popsofctown]

You're a lost cause. If people not named Amrun don't understand my explanation, though I will clarify as much as I can.

[MehPlusRawr]

ALL RIGHT GUYS WHO SHOULD I WAGON

[Amrun]

Pops, very simply: DO YOU THINK PARABOLLOCKS IS SCUM Y/N

That's all I wanted.