Colour Concentration Mafia (Mini 1174) - Over

[hiplop]

meransiel''s claim would be easy enough to counter claim, so at this point i believe him.

jedo has to be the last one i think. Im not going t vote quite yet tho

[Glass]

Off to write a final so I will be quick about this: leis, stop being dumb. Mers is clear until someone else claims yellow (which would be suicidal for maf). Hiplop claimed that his role pm did not seem to have 3 people in his colour, scumclaim.
VOTE: Hiplop

[Glass]

Oh WTF, did leis claim yellow?

UNVOTE:

[Meransiel]

People, stop being aberrant. There is only 1 yellow left and 2 people claiming it. Your vote MUST be on one of us, lest puppies die.

[Leiskyrie]

meransiel''s claim would be easy enough to counter claim, so at this point i believe him.

jedo has to be the last one i think. Im not going t vote quite yet tho

Are you kidding me? "Merans has a claim that is easy to cc, so it must be true." What?

[xvart]

UNVOTE:

Mers - do you get to use your previous action until night or did you lose a complete action when you got upgraded?

[Glass]

I received a one-shot protective role after Pack died and did not use it last night. I thought Merans was the other yellow, and was unlikely to be killed given it would leave one unidentified yellow with a strong PR, thus believing it would be best for me to save my shot. I certainly didn't think my play was spectacular enough to warrant me being NKed either. So, it was a shock when I saw Rhinocke's color flip. And that was why my reaction was what it was (the "uh...huh..." part).

Care to elaborate on your one-shot protective role?
What power did you get when rhinocke died?

[Leiskyrie]

I became shielded- 1-shot kill or poisoning immunity- after Pack's death.

After Rhinocke's death, I am now Bulletproof and thus completely immune to kills or poisoning.

Meransiel's claim is just so full of BS that it's ridiculous. My new PR is directly related to my weaker PR- it's just a (much) stronger version. However, it is only useful if I could theoretically draw the nightkill, which limits the strength of the role somewhat. On the other hand, a complete doc AND cop is way overpowered. And it wasn't even really based off his original claim either (concentration cop.)

[Leiskyrie]

That's a rather big leap there.

Rhino was a Macho Cop, it stands to reason that I get better than that.

Macho Cop means he couldn't have been protected (by a doctor or such.)

Stands to reason that he gets better than a cop who can't be protected? True. Getting a doctor and cop role simultaneously? Not plausible.

[Leiskyrie]

Need to sleep now...if you guys STILL aren't convinced, I can make a huge post when I wake with everything I have thought regarding Merans.

[Meransiel]

Bulletproof is, without a doubt, weaker than Macho Cop. And anyway, your 1-shot anybody protection you're claiming to have had isn't really a downgrade of what you have right now. And ultimately: it is very advantageous to scum to claim bulletproof.

@xvart: No, I lost the concentration thing.

[xvart]

VOTE: Meransiel

[Glass]

I thought Merans was the other yellow, and was unlikely to be killed given it would leave one unidentified yellow with a strong PR, thus believing it would be best for me to save my shot.

This sounds like a doc role?

I became shielded- 1-shot kill or poisoning immunity- after Pack's death.

This sounds like a 1-shot bulletproof role?

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[hiplop]

meransiel''s claim would be easy enough to counter claim, so at this point i believe him.

jedo has to be the last one i think. Im not going t vote quite yet tho

Are you kidding me? "Merans has a claim that is easy to cc, so it must be true." What?

i meant until a cc happens..

[xvart]

UNVOTE:

Hold up a second... Gotta think about something.

[Leiskyrie]

@Glass: I didn't want to use my shot immediately, and I doubted I would be the night kill based off of my day play.

And honestly, I can't agree or deny with the strength of my role. Yes, it would advantageous for scum to claim bulletproof. Does it matter? No, because this game is ending either today, or tomorrow.

Will be back later. with more

[hiplop]

mod im going to have to go VLA until friday/saturday, something serious happened and ilikely wont have much access

[hiplop]

mod im going to have to go VLA until friday/saturday, something serious happened and ilikely wont have much access

[Leiskyrie]

Anyways.

Firstly, the yellow role PM is the same as the sample PM given. At first, I did ponder the possibility of uneven color distribution, given what hiplop said in the beginning about being in a non-3 color group. However, more thought into it and looking at what the mod wrote in the theme specific rules, I am

very

certain that there are only 3 yellows.

Now, with regards to Merans, it did make me wonder why he would choose a fellow scumbuddy. The gambit, if successful, would of course make him pretty much obvtown and prevent him from being lynched. For it to work, however, he needed to be certain of the target's color, or in this case, claimed color. Had he randomly chosen a townie, there was the possibility that they would belong in the color group that had not had a death. If this occurred, he would have a very difficult time explaining his insistence for them to claim since a non-concentrated color confirms town.
Now, his "investigation" on SC doesn't yield a result that would guarantee scum, and I don't think they originally intended for SC to be lynched, though he really responded badly enough for it to be inevitable. On the other hand, it would also further confirm "town Merans" so there was a bonus.

The plot too would depend on them not NK'ing another yellow -> Rhinocke. And clearly, that failed.

It is complicated, but it's what I've been thinking went on, purely because I know Merans must be fakeclaiming, given what it says in the yellow PM which makes it quite obvious there are only 3 yellows total.

/motivation speculation

ninja'd: @hiplop: ...any other comments about the current situation?

[Glass]

@Leis
I am confused, with your original ability could you save someone else or only yourself?

Also, game ends today

VOTE: Meransiel

[Jedo the Jedi]

I believe Leis.

vote Meransiel

[Seacore]

Vote count 4.1

Meransiel (3) -

Leiskyrie, Glass, Jedo the Jedi

Leiskyrie (1) -

Meransiel

Not Voting (3) - xvart, hiplop, HotDogs

With 7 alive, 4 are required for a lynch. The Day 4 deadline can be found here.

In regards for the request for me to clarify the rules. I will not do so in this instance, interpret as you wish.

[Meransiel]

Well, what the heck.

Vote:self

Boom, town wins.

Ok, some things:

1. I didn't tell SC about the plan. Sorry, buddy.
2. I didn't do it for towncred, but for CONFIRMATION. I hoped inv roles would find it unlikely that I could've 1 shotted scum and investigate me. Which is great given the power scum receives when he's alone: Ninja Roleblocker.
3. I was devastated when I shot yellow. Honestly I tried to hit blue so that my fake role would vanillize, but red could do aswell.

[Seacore]

Final vote count Day 4

Meransiel (4) -

Leiskyrie, Glass, Jedo the Jedi, Meransiel

Not Voting (3) - xvart, hiplop, HotDogs

With 7 alive, 4 were required for a lynch.

The rainbow erupts in a geyser of colour and the last taint of murk is easily expelled from it's radiance. The colour is safe and free.

Meransiel -

colourless

- Lynched Day 4

Drops of Colour Win!

[Meransiel]

EDIT: Ninja Godfather, not rb

@leis: I was honest with my observation. Keep in mind for further games, the FIRST thing you must do to a confirmed scum is put a vote on him. Then shits and giggles.

@mod: I know that in this game town was mediocre and scum HORRIBLE, especially me, but this is the truth:

The setting is unwinnable for scum. The moment you hit mylo, equal colour spread reveals who the mafia are instantly. If you make a 2nd, I suggest unequal spread.