Newbie 1104 -- Game over

[Nobody Special]

You may request a prod for Morthas in 12 hours. Please see the rules.

[gbevilchaos]

Town: TS, Hayl
Leaning Town: noragar, forest_air, zMuffin
Null: CC
Scum: Espe (mainly due to his crazy thought process that he refuses to show in detail as well as his chronic absence)

Ditto for me, except replace noragar with gbevilchaos and drop forest_air to a category somewhere between Null and Scum.

I posted my reads in the post before that one, and nothing has changed since then, so I didn't see the need to repeat them.

The back and forth between Espe, Muffin, and gbevil have done nothing but solidify my opinion that espe is the other scum.

I still want your

detailed

opinions on Espe, by the way. What makes you think he's scummy?

[zMuffinMan]

Anyway, there's still a bit of time before the deadline. I want to do one last read tomorrow to see if anything I find really changes my mind about Esp (or, more specifically, makes me think someone else is more likely to be scum). Truthfully, I don't think I will find anything that will change my mind, but Esp has been staring at me with puppy dog eyes, guilt tripping me. Damn you, Esp, damn you.

[Espeonage]

Anyway, there's still a bit of time before the deadline. I want to do one last read tomorrow to see if anything I find really changes my mind about Esp (or, more specifically, makes me think someone else is more likely to be scum). Truthfully, I don't think I will find anything that will change my mind, but Esp has been staring at me with puppy dog eyes, guilt tripping me. Damn you, Esp, damn you.

What is this post?

If noragar turns up town. And you guys lynch me. Then take this one down next. he gives me not so happy feelings.

[forest_air]

Muffin's not scum.

[gbevilchaos]

Muffin's not scum.

And you know this...how? That's a much more "sure" statement then is possible based on what he's posted. Muffin is a townish read for me as well, but he isn't confirmed town or anything, like your statement seems to suggest.

[gbevilchaos]

Muffin's not scum.

And you know this...how? That's a much more "sure" statement then is possible based on what he's posted. Muffin is a townish read for me as well, but he isn't confirmed town or anything, like your statement seems to suggest.

I just completed an analysis of Muffin's ISO, which I will post only after Forest explains her read on Muffin. I want to make sure she has good reasons before I list out my own reasons that Muffin is town.

[forest_air]

Chkflip seemed town to me, especially some of the things he said about me at the beginning of d1. The way he questions he asked gave off town reads for me.

And I have also been getting a townish read from Muffin, some of his posts may give off some questionable vibes, but for the most part he seems to be helping the town. I'm more willing to bet that he's town at this point based on what he's posted so far.

[Twistedspoon]

noragar is easily my fave lynch

if we lynch him today, I'll roll with whoever you guys want tommorow

Noragar has already claimed and Muffin's Charistmas present analogy explains why this day isn't being very productive

we need a flip more than anything; just to build up momentum and give us more to work with
I have a great deal of confidence in Noragar scum. Trust me

@Mod: Morthas prod now?

[noragar]

Well as long as Espe's going next, then it really doesn't matter which order we're lynched in. But if you're still interested in the "perfect" game, I'd strongly suggest lynching him first and then me.

[Espeonage]

And I would suggest the other. Obv. So lynchies plox.

[forest_air]

I think it's about time someone was lynched.

I remember that story about the two women who were fighting over a baby, and the king decided to cut it in half so they could each have a part of it. One woman said she'd rather give it away then have that happen, which showed she cared about it more. She ended up getting the baby in the end.

We need to somehow apply that story to this situation, and quickly lynch the other person tomorrow.

[zMuffinMan]

Reading #710 after #709 makes me laugh when I remember Esp thinks noragar is town.

[gbevilchaos]

We need to somehow apply that story to this situation, and quickly lynch the other person tomorrow.

Why would we ever want a quick lynch? Discussion is important.

I'm okay with an Espe lynch, but based on recent events (read: lurking), I'm leaning more towards noragar as scum.

Unvote vote noragar

[forest_air]

^I was mostly just kidding. Just at the rate things are going, Espeonage and noragar are the only candidates for getting lynched tonight.

But if someone came up with a good comparison that would be cool

[Morthas]

Ok i started my catch up read now, should have a post sometime soon...

[Morthas]

Here goes hangover posting¬¬¬¬

Thanks ....... fight for survival.

Well as long as Espe's going next, then it really doesn't matter which order we're lynched in. But if you're still interested in the "perfect" game, I'd strongly suggest lynching him first and then me.

The huge post that noragar did on ISO 24? I think it's town, for a player with low experience i don't think as scum he would manufacture a post that that reeks of thoughts that seem to be so honest.
He says several times ''i don't mind dieing as long as it helps town'' (using different words of course) which i don't see unexperienced scum saying.

He also doesn't post as much but pays attention to the game as proven by his prod response

noragar has been prodded. He has 48 hours to post or face replacement.

Nothing to add at this point. Still voting for Espeonage.

Conclusion? He seems to be unmotivated because he believes he doesn't posses great abilities to scumhunt and he has decided in his mind that Espeonage seems to be the best lynch so doesn't see the point in continuing . <-- My attempt to justify that he is indeed a nooby townie.

I may not be experienced enough to judge how newb towns tend to act but that is how i imagine them to so, of course if someone more experienced wants to correct me, go on
Most of the above is probably just Theory throwing but i like to believe it, so no im not pushing for a noragar lynch today.
P-Edit: I did a quick ISO on noragar and Otolia interactions and i can't convince myself that they bussed.
PoE Espeonage for now
I want to look into chaos, i'm getting weird vibes from him.

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: espe

this game is confusing

I'll trust muffin today

Noragar's last post did seem unusually townie

[Haylen]

I've decided I would like an Espy lynch today since no one wants to vote for CC's replacement.

Vote Espeonage

I will be be posting my TwistedSpoon analysis tomorrow, for now I don't consider i to be too important in the state of them game.

[Twistedspoon]

I want to look into chaos, i'm getting weird vibes from him.

go for it

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 2.10

Espeonage - 5 - noragar, Morthas, forest_air, twistedspoon, Haylen

noragar - 2 - Espeonage, gbevilchaos

Not Voting: zMuffinMan

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: June 21

V/LA: ...

My apologies for completely flaking on this thread yesterday.

[Nobody Special]

I'm sorry, but due to an Unscheduled Reality Intrusion, we're all out of flavor at the moment. Could I interest you in a flip?

There was an epic battle. The town unleashed 5,000 angry Orcs who descended upon the one called Espeonage -- and Espeonage, brave battle-soldier that he was, fought them all off and killed four thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine of them. The final remaining Orc picked up his knife of ice and stabbed Espeonage through the heart, repeatedly. It looked very grim, indeed.

As Espeonage was breathing his very last, he wrenched the ice-knife from his heart and hurled it at the Orc, now walking away from the battle.

The Orc, stabbed through, collapsed and died instantly.

Espeonage cackled madly, breathed his last, and died.

Espeonage, Vanilla Townie,

has been

lynched

well, ice-knife stabbed. AND lynched, too.

Night Two starts now. Night actions, if any, are due within 72 hours. Deadline: June 20

[Nobody Special]

It is morning. A day full of possibilities and potentialities. A day full of birds and sunshine and pretty trees and murder.

forest_air, Town Cop,

has been shot.

Day Three starts now. Deadline: July 11

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Haylen]

Damn. I'm going to check her posts to see if she crumbed any targets.

[noragar]

I'm actually kind of shocked, not only that Espe was town, but that my only other most viable scum candidate was also confirmed town.

I assume that forest would have left some clues as to her Night 1 investigation. In her first few posts at the beginning of Day 2, she's insistent on two things - that chkflip is town and that I am scum. If she had investigated me and found me out to be scum, it would have been safe to claim cop and say so. So it seems to me that she investigated Chkflip and found him to be town. Several times in her first 4 or 5 posts in Day 2 she definitively asserts that chkflip is town without much solid explanation behind it. So, in my opinion, chkflip/Muffin.

I also realize that this in no way clears my name and that unless something there's been a radical change of opinion, I'm probably headed toward being lynched today. If I were in the rest of your shoes, I think I would see myself as the moist likely candidate after the flips of Espe and forest. I'll just assert again, that I am town, and ask that if I am to be lynched that you at least try to work out a way to gain some useful information from it.