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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:25 pm

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Very true. I hadn't thought of it that way.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:26 pm

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Blue, defending oneself is not a scum or town tell. Defending oneself is a given if you are trying to play the game and someone casts blame on you. And I didn't post anything to your other reads because I can see how you can see what you are seeing.

The only comment I do have to post about your reads, however, is what is making the "?" on VE.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:27 pm

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Also, one thing I just noticed:

@Mod: It has been 72 hours since Miss JJ has posted in the thread. Prod, please?
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:29 pm

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Also, VE, I just made the comment to my boyfriend about how I thing "speed mafia" would be better for me because I hate having to wait for people to post and I like the more active and fast paced feel. Perhaps that's something you should look into as well once you get out of the newbie games.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:29 pm

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EBWOP: "how I think*"
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:38 pm

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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:40 pm

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I understand that, but can you explain what your reads on him are? What makes you think he's town and what makes you think he's scum? I'm asking you specifically about him because he's the only one that you have a "?" on. Everyone else is either scum or town to you.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:00 pm

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I also have to say that I find in incredibly interesting that when I say that talking with both VE and Blue individually will give me more information than the long forum version, both of them log off pretty soon afterwards... Noting that VE has kinda been defending Blue the whole time and Blue's "?" read on VE, I could see a possible scumteam here...
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:03 pm

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I hontestly cant decide wich he is he seams town but at the same time he seams scum
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:04 pm

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Grimmjow wrote:I also have to say that I find in incredibly interesting that when I say that talking with both VE and Blue individually will give me more information than the long forum version, both of them log off pretty soon afterwards... Noting that VE has kinda been defending Blue the whole time and Blue's "?" read on VE, I could see a possible scumteam here...

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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:05 pm

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Well can you give reasons as to why you think he is town and/or scum? Just stating that you think that doesn't help the town. If you can give concise reasons, then it'd be taken better and more into consideration...
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:08 pm

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@Grimm:
VisceraEyes wrote:Quick thought: regarding bluepokemon...it could very well be that he takes attacks so personally because he's afraid of what the attention might illuminate. Kinda a null-tell obviously, if he's a VERY new player, but you never know.

I hardly think this is defending sir.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:09 pm

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he seams like hes trying to help me somtimes but then he seams scumy when argues with you so i dont know i guess im leanig towards scum if i had to say
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:10 pm

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A little insight into my play: I give almost everyone the benefit of the doubt until they do something suspicious to me. I was trying to make you see his PoV when I said that bit about 'noob' and then his defensiveness started to seem a little suspicious to me. I fail to see why you'd say I'm defending him 'the whole time'...
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:11 pm

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he look we're all online again yay
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:12 pm

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are we the only 3 playing this game 0.o
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:12 pm

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Have you heard of the term "buddying"? It refers to scum trying to get in the good graces of a townie by saying "hey, you're right " or "I can see why he does this." It takes blame off of the scum Not saying that's what VE's doing; I'm just saying it's something to consider.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:12 pm

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bluepokemon1234 wrote:are we the only 3 playing this game 0.o

No, we're not, but we're the only ones online right now.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:14 pm

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Grimmjow wrote:Also, VE, I just made the comment to my boyfriend about how I thing "speed mafia" would be better for me because I hate having to wait for people to post and I like the more active and fast paced feel. Perhaps that's something you should look into as well once you get out of the newbie games.

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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:15 pm

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VisceraEyes wrote:A little insight into my play: I give almost everyone the benefit of the doubt until they do something suspicious to me.

My first game, I gave everyone "the benefit of the doubt" and it ended up biting us in the ass. I was the only person that said "eh, I dunno" towards one scum person because of his newness where everyone else was like "Oh, he's newish, idk" and we ended up screwed because of it. So I'm not doing it this time.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:15 pm

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Grimmjow wrote:I also have to say that I find in incredibly interesting that when I say that talking with both VE and Blue individually will give me more information than the long forum version, both of them log off pretty soon afterwards... Noting that VE has kinda been defending Blue the whole time and Blue's "?" read on VE, I could see a possible scumteam here...


Yeah, like I said before...I play on a different forum sometimes, and they run on a 48/hr day and 24/hr night cycle. It's MUCH faster paced than this, which means that some of the methods of determining scumminess have to be a little different too. But it basically DEMANDS activity, so they work with a banlist too...if you are mod-killed in a game, you're banned for a game. Multiple offenses cause longer bans...it's pretty tightly-run. The end result, however, is LARGER games, MORE ACTIVE games and FASTER games. This is cool too, I'm finding, because it gives you MUCH longer to scum-hunt...I can't really say which I like better.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:15 pm

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Whoa, I quoted the wrong post. lol That should've been the bit about speed-mafia.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:16 pm

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bluepokemon1234 wrote:boyfreind !?! i thought you were a guy.

ITT: Blue doesn't read the thread.

Yes, I'm a guy. And yes, I'm gay. As has been stated multiple times.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:19 pm

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Grimmjow wrote:
My first game, I gave everyone "the benefit of the doubt" and it ended up biting us in the ass. I was the only person that said "eh, I dunno" towards one scum person because of his newness where everyone else was like "Oh, he's newish, idk" and we ended up screwed because of it. So I'm not doing it this time.

I can see what you're saying, totally...but what I do isn't really trust everyone. It's giving them leeway until something truly scummy comes up...such as promising to post something and then disappearing when it's an engaging discussion...or voting for someone based on flimsy reasoning and disappearing.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:20 pm

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yep on yughio forums its just like how you said ive bean wathing a game there beacuse im on the reaplacement list

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