Okay! Finally done reading!! So I've got my notes here, and gonna try making a huge elaborate post, lol. Can't fully remember how the BB tags work and stuff, so please bare with me -_- ...i'll try to sort it out!
Please note the following:
- If I talk about you - it's because of the posts you have done. Either I liked them, or didn't and it affects my view
- If I don't talk about you - it's because I havn't fully got a read yet, and still developing thoughts! I may need a re-read or just a bit more involvement to get fully up to speed. Either that, or I just dont have anything in particular that jumped out at me during my read.
Right, that being said...I think the best way to do this, is just get into it!
Post 40
Awesoma wrote:
I just saw your recent post now, and I skimmed. I noticed in two prominent games that you were SK, I could've been mistaken. Not usually do I give away my role on the first day, but if I am pressured too, I will. So far I do not feel eyes drifting to me, other than yours, which is understandable, since Ive sort of started pointing fingers at you.
Did not like this
at all
! We're at post 40 here....and awesoma is talking about revealing his role?? Also, why would pressuring result in this? Pressuring is a part of how can find scum.
Post 49
Awesome, you put cloudocean on L-1. Like
WOW
- this is a big warning sign for me. Thor explains his reasons for why this is not a problem for himself later, and I will comment on Thor later about this too. But seriously, did not sit with me well. Especially considering throughout the day you were worried about being bandwagoned yourself.....
Post 51
Awesoma wrote:
I know, he easily couldve gotten it this time, but based on his "Luck" Id say he is innocent for this Day (Day1) only. Once we find out another person's role, then That will make the voting process much clearer in term\s of who we think is guilty and innocent.
I lol'd at this. Didn't like it at all again. "based on his luck i'd say he's innocent for this day"? Day1?? Something quite odd to say. Understand that this is your first time here (but not first time playing mafia). Surely, you know that majority of us are innocent and it's going to be a mission to find out who is scum. ALso. I also understand that you've accepted your mistakes in saying all this, but I'm just putting it here, to show that I've found it really odd too.
Post 66
Awesome tries to clarify his odd behaviour. I don't really buy it. Kinda explains why he voted cloud, and why the logic was flawed, or rather not entirely accurate. Yet, he doesn't unvote.
Post 97
Awesoma wrote:The only thing I can rely on right now is reading and not psychological analysis of the person, as that is all I know atm. In addition, if someone were to pressure me to reveal my role, Id gladly reveal it, but right now, since it is still early in the game, Id rather keep myself anonymous.
I don't understand. Why would you even mention this kinda stuff? It's early days, we're not interested in any claims. And if anyone pressures you specifically to reveal your role, then they are quite against our objectives - in which case, we wouldn't want you to reveal it anyway.
Awesoma wrote:I buddied Thor because there was nothing suspicious about him at that time, though I do have my reasons to start pointing a finger at him now.
So you admit to budding Thor, just cos there was nothign suspicous about him? Seems like something scum would do. Town gain nothing from specificaly buddying with each other. Scum would prefer to align themselves with someone giving a strong town vibe. Why? Cos, they know they're obviously not scum (duh), and if other people are getting town reads off them, then all the better for the scum themself!
Post 161
Awesoma wrote:Since I am being bandwagoned, I will reveal my role. I am a vanilla Townie. Looks like im going to be dead tonight.
wtf?? -_- ...this is so outta the blue. Firstly, you weren't being bandwagoned. YOu weren't even realy being pressured. At first I thought it was just newbie. Now I think its newbiescum.
Post 171
Awesoma wrote:In addition, cloud needs to be pressured. He hasn't posted since Friday and he is looking scummier because he hasn't posted any points defending himself.
What?!? Cloud doesn't need further pressure, specifically. So far from what I've seen, the whole thing revolves around the Cloud vs Thor thing, and even that could be just futile for us, while scum are just along for the ride. Also, Cloudocean was on L-1, not much more you can add to that pressure. Yea, you can question him - but I think he dealt with it quite well. No, I'm not saying he's not scum, but it's a bit weird for you guys to have him on L-1 for arguments that dont be so strong - and thigns which originated from RVS, afterall.
Post 180
Awesoma wrote:I dont see many people hopping on it, but still.
And now,...in reference to your own bandwagon. You don't see many people hopping onto it, yet you felt necessary to make a claim? ...something just doesn't sit right with me with your behaviour.
Post 75
Hellhound1 wrote:I really hope you are right about cloudocean, he seems the most logical choice, for me, atm. He's tried to twist our words, and contradicted himself. So if he isnt, ill be mightily surprised..
This seems suspicious to me. Firstly, why are you placing your 'hopes' on someone else (Thor) being right? It's so early, and you seem to be aligning yourself with Thor? And if he's not scum, you'll be mightily suprised? Kind of looks like an 'out' for me. Meaning, if he does flip to be town, then you have an escape goat in Thor.
Post 86
Hellhound1 wrote:No but you defended yourself by twisting what
we
said, thats not very innocent is it?
Granted, this is small - but it did catch my eye. Why the "we"? Seems like you're making it seem as if ocean has it out for the two of you.
Post 103
Hellhound1 wrote:Im on my phone so ill keep it short, buy i vote cloudocean still because of the way hes twisted what i said, and what Thor said, to make us sound scummy. That to me is the scummiest thing so far.
Again with the whole "me and Thor" thing? I'm not saying you're necessarily budding up to him - but it sure looks like it! Afterall, from what I've seen, ocean hasn't even said much towards you.
Post 132
Hellhound1 wrote:And well I'm guessing awesoma has a power role. Obviously i don't want him to out if he is the cop, but o suspect he is. I might be wrong and awesoma was making an assumption him/her self.
:s Firstly, if you suspect him of having a power role, then please dont mention it - pretty sure its against our interest. Secondly, this is not necessarily the view I get from what he's done/said so far (read above). Also, again it seems you have another 'out' with your "i might be wrong". It just seems that a lot of your arguments are based on "yes no maybes" and you're not really sure of what you might or might not be saying.
Post 151
Hellhound1 wrote:I kind of understand, but you switched your vote from CO to Scum, so if Scum flips town, that sets up CO as scum, right? So, as he's my number one scum suspect and my vote, IF we have a cop, can i ask politely for him to be watched overnight?
If he turns out town the next day, then obviously i was wrong, however if he turns out scum that'd prove you were right. Just a thought <-- see that CO? Just a thought k?
Did not like this post at all. Firs tof all you make some assumptions. Then you're quietly asking for a cop to watch them overnight? I dont see how this helps us. For all we know, you're scum ...going to hit this person (if they don't get lynched), and have our cop waste an investigation. There's just so much possibilities going on at the moment, its still early - and I really dont like that you've started the "if i was right..then he must be xxx" etc. And yes, I know you said this is
just a thought
. Again, just pointing out stuff that I don't like and seem dodgy.
Post 170
Hellhound1 wrote:You're my second choice because you've been defending cloud, even though there was no reason to, you just seemed to jump in and defend him.
In reference to Scumhunter. I don't see it as overly defending. From my viewpoint, cloud and thor could be both town and just scumhunting how they know best. This is part of the game. Scumhunter has pointed this out and so has hoopla.
Okay, now about this whole L-1 thing....Scumhunter has a nice post here.
Post 109
Scumhunter wrote:
-You'd want to unvote to give him a chance to claim in case he is a power role. like cop ?!?!? C'mon you should know better.
-You are scummy because you aren't thinking things through and tunneling like a mofo.
.....
Question at you Thor: Are you willing to be lynched tomorrow if (and its almost certainly a "when") cloudocean flips town? Like instant lynched with no questions asked?
If not, why are you incessant that we lynch him. It's 5 pages into the game and im telling you the case on him is shit (and that is even if he ends up being scum).
This is a brilliant post. Sums up why L-1 is bad. Why? Cos Thor's response to this question is that he has time now to claim and what not. Also, Thor responds by saying that we won't rush to lynch anyone in Day 2 because that's one of the most important days. Now let's see, if we have the situation at L-1, someone can easily make the hammer and we'll transition into Night 1.
Guys, keep in mind - this is a Newbie game here. Not saying that anyone is a n00b, but look - we might have impatience (it's already creeping in), and a bit of inaccurate play. Someone can easily come in and say (hypothetically), "right I've had enough of this day and this arguing, so lets start progressing things". Then they bring in the Hammer to transition. We would be fools to think that cos of this, they would necessarily be scum. But not saying that they won't be either. Essentially, this has not helped us at all. That's why L-1 is REALLY dangerous in my eyes. Back when I was playing 2 years ago, only when things got reallly heated and when we were close to a lynch, it was considered okay to go to L-1. Don't know - play style might have changed since then, but I still find L-1 to be a big warning. Something that's really against our interest. Thor as the IC, I was sad to see your responses to this. But then again, it's your playstyle and have the right to have your views on it. In general though, I don't like it. Especially considering the fact that the arguments aren't even that solid in the first place. I'm a bit suspicious of your behaviour to think L-1 is okay based on what we've gone on.
Post 94
ninjacheese wrote:I see your point, it would look bad.
I feel like i should vote so.
VOTE: Cloudocean
Because your the scummiest person here.
Oh man!!! Did not like your reasoning here. Again you brought cloudocean back to L-1 just cos he's the most scummiest. I understand if its pressure, but your logic escapes me. Also, I don't like it when people just vote for the sake of it. Have some reaons, and back them up. If you agree with someone, so be it - but at least say why and what for. Not just "Because your the scummiest person here" especially to bring them to L-1, and I already said why I don't like this (read above).
Post 110
Thor665 wrote:
1. L-1 still gives him a chance to claim, why would I need to unvote to L-2 to manage a claim?
2. I think you're mistaking aggression with being scummy. You did the same thing last game we were in, whassup?
Thor's response to L-1. I don't really like this (as mentioned before). We don't really want claims just atm, and bringing someone to L-1 quicksmart is not really helping us, imo.
Post 115
hiplop wrote:
Thor and Cloud are both town. Unfortunately they're both gunning for eachother full force. Thor, without mentioning Cloudocean, who do you think is the scummiest player? Same for you cloud, except with Thor instead.
Awesoma seems to be playing EXACTLY how i did as newbscum. Hes using how often they're given PR as an offense for goodness sake! Thor why havent you put any pressure on awsoma? I know you tend to be forgiving towards newbs, but that kind of play is scummy, whther youre a newb or ..non-newb?
Two thumbs up for this post. I really like it. It's actually exactly what I was thinking during my read. When I got to it, it's like he wrote what was in my mind. Essentially, for all we know, cloudocean and Thor are both town but are going throught the motions of scumhunting. It's perfect, it's what we need. I'm just wondering if scum are hiding behind this and letting them go at each other. Reason I believe this is because of lack of other arguments, really. Dont really see anything solid going on. If we lynch at the first argument (which arose from nothing, really), we'd be fools and only hurting ourselves.
This is pretty much my summary so far of my initial read. There's things that I like, and things that I do not. Really sorry for the huge wall of text, this has turned out to be. It's taken me literally a day to write it, lol.
Sorry guys I didn't link the posts. Thought it'd be too much work -_-. Did bold them to hopefully make it easier!
And now for the action. Based on everything I've said above
VOTE: Awesoma
FoS: Hellhound1, Thor665
And on non-game related matters. Just pleased to be playing with you all
It's nice to see that this game has a lot of SEs in it! Also, @ Thor, I think you're doing a good job as an IC and keeping the interest alive - regardless of what your alignment may be!
