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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:54 am

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[Day 2, DEFCON 2 - Vote Count I - Fear Mongering]


"The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy." --Friedrich Nietzsche


[Votes]


AurorusVox
(8) - inHimshallibe, ooba, HezLucky, Toogeloo, Screaming Death Clan, Swift Justice, SocioPath, ToastyToast
danakillsu
(0)
Gammagooey
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gorilla
(1) - Lady Lambdadelta
HezLucky
(1) - danakillsu
Hinduragi
(0)
inHimshallibe
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Internet Stranger
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Katsuki
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Lady Lambdadelta
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Magister Ludi
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MagnaofIllusion
(0)
Magua
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Mina
(0)
ooba
(0)
PookyTheMagicalBear
(0)
Regfan
(0)
Revenge of the Wei
(1) - Internet Stranger
Screaming Death Clan
(0)
SocioPath
(2) - MagnaofIllusion, AurorusVox
Swift Justice
(0)
ToastyToast
(0)
Toogeloo
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Not voting
(10) - gorilla, Hinduragi, Katsuki, Magister Ludi, PookyTheMagicalBear, Regfan, Revenge of the Wei, Magua, Mina, Gammagooey

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The deadline is Sunday, 3 Huly at 23:59 EST. Twelve votes are required to lynch.
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, Vi and CSL's hydra account, is now activated. This player name effectively replaces Vi.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:56 am

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So Gamma's post reads as "I know AV isn't scum but let's just mislynch him anyway"

Are you
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:12 am

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AV you went from zero votes to L-2 in the time I woke up. Mina and inhims and Katsuki and MoI are all likely to very town that think you're scum and the two towniest (mina+kats) haven't even shown up yet. Your attacking Pooky for his i'm america because blank was ridiculous stretching, your post about letting scum get the sub was bad, and I don't see why You thought why Hez's big ol' post was town for anything except being long and effort. Yeah your posts around iso 35-40 were decent but I'm not going to disrail your wagon when you're still fairly likely scum, it would require convincing literally half the game that someone else is a better lynch than you despite that, and a bunch of townz think that you're superscum.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:24 am

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Hmm. With MoI changing votes and toasty miscounting by 1 that's L-4, not 2. I'll probably just change this once Mina and Katsuki get on but whatever.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:34 am

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AurorusVox wrote:So Gamma's post reads as "I know AV isn't scum but let's just mislynch him anyway"

Are you
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This actually reads like you're the Terrorist.
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:35 am

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@AGM- LLD is voting Gorilla, not herself.


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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:36 am

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I almost filled that out with my role in it. I'm probably just stupid. But other players have revealed their roles casually and Pooky's "blank" seemed to facilitate that. He's not a top scumread but I read that as an anti-town thing.
People still don't understand the Sub thing. It just made the Sub into a regular nuke. Well, it made Sub the same as Silo or a scumclaim.
I didn't say Hez's post was town, I said it was "okay". It had some reads which will be useful later down the line at least, and I'm happy to go after the SK and reduce NKs by one.

Now you're backing off of it. If you want to lynch me, lynch me. None of this "I'll probably change later" bull. Either IS is scummier than me and you should try to get him lynched rather than half-heartedly poking in my direction and throwing a vote in his direction; or I'm scummier than him and so why are you voting IS?

@InHim: Explain? If I was the terrorist, him trying to lynch me wouldn't lower town's numbers, would it?
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:37 am

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Gammagooey wrote:
@AGM- LLD is voting Gorilla, not herself.


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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:40 am

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SOCIO YOU BITCH DID YOU PEW PEW SPYREX?

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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:43 am

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IS is scummier than you. But as previously stated there are looaads of likely town who want you dead and I'm not going to yell about how much better IS's lynch would be than yours when I don't actually think it's that much better. Plussssss I don't see any reason why you can't be scum together- it's not like IS-scum means OMGAVTOWNSTOPTHEPRESSES or vice-versa.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:43 am

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Don't bother trying to tell me I'm wasting my vote, because I'm not switching to AurorusVox, and there's only one other 2-vote wagon. I'm hoping that people actually listen to me today.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:46 am

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son i want a full report on what parts of hez's wallpost means he's scum. Also which parts make you doubt that conclusion. And a cookie.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:52 am

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Oh man I cant wait to see how much shiny Gamma is going to be after he eats a fateful American Nuke. I only wish I could nuke both Gamme and his Socialist Euroscum scumpartner Vi (Revenge of the whatever) at the same time.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:00 am

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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:06 am

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Screaming Death Clan wrote:SOCIO YOU BITCH DID YOU PEW PEW SPYREX?
Gammagooey wrote:All of you guys who are going on about Socio-SK you're silly. SpyreX's only post about him was saying that he speaks truths and I would think he would enjoy having SpyreX around as a fun player given their respective playstyles.


Especially considering my view of Spy, those that know OF me, and those that know OF my playstyle, and those that know me, and those that know my playstyle, and those that think that they really know both me and my playstyle, people should realize that I certainly wouldn't kill Spy, of all people.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:18 pm

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TOO MUCH STUFF
TOO LITTLE TIME

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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:32 pm

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Gammagooey wrote:Image


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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:03 pm

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Apologies for the lack of activity recently. I just completed my university final exams and I should be able to fully catch up with the ongoings of this game in the next 24 or potentially 48 hours. Until I've fully caught up I'm going to request no one does anything stupid and places anyone towards L-1 because Pooky is just going to come dumbblitzhammer again.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:24 pm

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Oh hi.

AV is just full of scumsauce. Bandwagon, even though I haven't talked to Vi about this.

Vote: AV
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:38 pm

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Bolded parts are, of course, mine.
HezLucky wrote:Okay time for my catchup.

Townread on Hinduragi #50.

Magister Ludi #55 is actually a really good post. Not sure how I missed this the first time around. But he's right.

Magua #70 is consistent with what his position on me later on -- he thinks "people are going to be much better with using their nukes
once they have their reads established". I'm thinking that if he had attacked me it would have been very hypocritical. He didn't.
Consistency is town.

Scummy: Calls Magua NOT attacking him town in a roundabout way


Gamma's #99 and subsequent attacking of me is just idiotic.

Scummy: Calls Gamma's attack of him idiotic with no reasons why.


Posts like Magua #101 are being really helpfulw ith town. However, I recall a recent game I read that I was not in where Magua was
really helpful as scum and used that to become the sole survivor (was this RC's game?). So I'm definitely not giving him anything
for that.

AurorusVox #104 - it might be best to let scum have sub, eh? Good for you, AV. To the scumpile you remain.

Null (maybe scummy): Implies AV would be stupid enough as scum to blatantly suggest town not go for the submarine without good reasons.


Seriuosly though Magua #107 ... his posts are SO GOOD and he's not leaving ANYTHING OUT. he's making it very difficult for scum. I
just can't possibly see Magua as anything but TOWN.

Scummy: Continues buddying the guy who doesn't attack him.


I've become so calm lately and then I read Spyrex #174 and I want to completely F#@$#@% NUKE HIM AGAIN. Okay, dude. I take policy
lynches REALLY PERSONALLY so lay off please.

Spyrex #183 also makes me very angry.

Null: Gets angry at a town player.


townread on Regfan #220. A lot of his post is speculation on what the mafia would do. I see two possibilities -- he's thinking this
through as a townie trying to use the mindset of mafia OR he's mafia and has already thought this through. Given the degree of
analysis (ie. not much, but enough ... suggesting he's come up with a few nuggets but isn't spouting the full-blown analysis of his
scumbuddies) I'm inclined to go with the former.

Null: Does some weird WIFOM to come up with a townread on Regfan, completely ignoring the equal possibility that Regfan-scum wouldn't WANT to tell us everything his scumbuddies thought up.


LLD #233 - but this does not make inhim scum. Sure as hell sounds like something I would do =D

Scummy: Gives no reason why LLD's points should not be used as scumtells other than self-meta, which of course is a handy way to say at the same time that we shouldn't consider HIM scummy for the same things.


AurorusVox #236 - fake analysis. ranking several power roles isn't going to make you likely to get anything except probably the first.

Scummy: Pretends to be able to tell just from looking at a post whether it's faked. Doesn't share how he knows it's fake, of course, unless you count what is meant to be a contradiction of AV's post. Wrong =/= insincere, though.




Shall I continue? In short, I TRIED to find something townie, and couldn't really come up with it.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:39 pm

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Also, I just want to make sure that you look at the first 2 in conjunction. They make EACH OTHER scummy, in a way.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:52 pm

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yo dana

u trying to protect your boy AV?
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:24 pm

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Regfan wrote:Apologies for the lack of activity recently. I just completed my university final exams and I should be able to fully catch up with the ongoings of this game in the next 24 or potentially 48 hours. Until I've fully caught up I'm going to request no one does anything stupid and places anyone towards L-1 because Pooky is just going to come dumbblitzhammer again.


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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:35 pm

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@dana-No don't continue I don't want a play-by-play of the entire wall post and I get your point. I do want you to read over the rest yourself and tell me if you see just one or two things that point to Hez-town though- because there are a few in there IMO even though a very large portion of the wall is junk reads-wise.
If you can't find ANYTHING then say so and I'll settle for a few town reads of other players.
Yeah this is mostly for getting a read on you, not Hez. Even if I wanted him as dead as I did yesterday in regards to him today is basically yesterday minus SpyreX plus effort from Hez- He's not going to be todays lynch.

Hey Pooky, I'm curious. Would nuking God be the most or least American thing to do?
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:11 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

1) "Why Me" is one of my personal twitches in mafia. Please explain your motivation in asking this.

2) SpyreX dying seems like something that a Gorilla!SK might do to frame HezLucky, and eliminate someone who wanted him dead. Spyrex's suspicion of Gorilla was quiet enough that if Gorilla!SK killed him it might have gone unnoticed.


I did it because I know it sets people off - my choice of phrasing was intended to be sort of tongue in cheek, but I really did want to know SpyreX's reasons because I didn't have a solid read on him, thought he might be scum.

If I had intended to fr

I don't really care if I end up getting nuked tomorrow, though, since I'm kind of useless.

I don't get the AV wagon, I need to reread.

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