Newbie 1116 -- Game Over

[bluepokemon1234]

your still online ve?

[bluepokemon1234]

what are your reads on cy

[bluepokemon1234]

well if no one is on im going to bed

[VisceraEyes]

@Blue
I've given my thoughts on cymru several times. Please go back and read the thread if you're interested.

[bigAl]

wait it takes 3 weaks for one lycnch?

No, it takes 3 weeks for one lynch. >.>

[bluepokemon1234]

psh

[Cobblerfone]

Okay blue, here's some tips on how to contribute better. cymru, part of this might also be useful for you.

First, use capitalizaton and punctuation. Second, don't just type every little thing that comes into your mind like this:

im bored

Third, use the preview button, it'll help you find things that'd you'd otherwise have to EBWOP. Fourth, when building cases on players, look for things that a mafia would do. This can be helped by thinking of how you would act if you were mafia. Fifth, you can read through all of a player's posts by using a little arrow menu at the bottom of the page. It says "Display posts by user:" And then there's a drop-down menu. This is how you look at a player's ISO. If they replaced out, then you'll have to look at both players seperately.

[Workdawg]

Son of a bitch. This overnight chatfest is annoying. Could you guys try and avoid posting stuff that has NO use to the game? I'm not opposed to you guys playing "mini speed mafia" in here, but at least keep it on topic and try to make the content worthwhile.

"anyone here", "i'm bored", etc. It's just cluttering the thread and making it take much longer to read. There are 6 pages worth of posts since last night and really only enough content for about 3.

Now that I spent an hour catching up, I have to go skim all those pages and look for the specific posts that actually contained content so I can refer back to them.

I digress...

Things that I can actually remember from all that crap.

About my posting habits (I guess)

VE mentioned that "my most substantial posts" have been defending myself against Tomie. Certainly my longer posts have been in reply to him, but I find it A LOT easier to defend myself than to find scum. I know my intentions, and that makes it a lot easier to speak exactly to people's accusations against me. FWIW, that's only two posts.

While Tomie might not have said that he thinks I'm scum, he certainly has implied it pretty heavily by taking the extra time to analyze my posts (and set them apart from most others) and by saying "

don't look good."

Needless to say, I'm not going to sit around and let someone accuse me (straight up or not).

bigAl

First, his suggestion of lynching someone other than cym/blue; I'm REALLY torn on this.

On one hand, it's pretty damn good advice. Pretty much the only things I can remember others saying about them (myself included) is that they are both very obviously newbies and both not playing very well. If they do flip town, we won't learn very much.

On the other hand, if one of them is scum, bigAl could be trying to defend his partner in either of them.

That said, I don't get a very scummy vibe from bigAl. He's wearing the IC hat well. He's rather self-detrimental, which I'm not really sure what to make of. It doesn't seem scummy on the surface, but calling himself out on various things gives a hint of "oops, I hope no one notices that". I have to say that in both my two previous newbie games, everyone was very reluctant to vote the IC because they didn't want to lose that "advantage" a veteran player brings. But in both games, the IC was NK'd first night too.

As a semi-related side note... people who are throwing out "town points"... I'm not sure I like that so much. You are essentially giving scum feedback about what kinds of things YOU consider to be town. If I were scum, I would make note of what people are doing to earn "town points" and try to mimic those things.

Blue

He continues to rub me the wrong way, and I'm not sure if it's because he's so new or what. He bends to the will of whoever he chats with over night. I loaded up his ISO and it's 111 POSTS? W T F.

He votes VE, then unvotes when bigAl points out his reason for the vote is terrible. (go with the flow)
He reads the thread (after being pressured to by Grimm) then votes for VE AGAIN. This time because VE voted for zihark. (OMGUS)
Unvotes AGAIN after Grimm and bigAl tell him his reason for voting is bad.
Let's restart... -_-
Votes for Grimm, a vote I don't actually hate. He has a reason at least. Not sure on if it's really accurate or not, but hey.
Unvotes because they all had a nice SEVENTY FIVE post campfire chat and apparently that convinced him Grimm isn't scum.
FOS cym because cym agrees with him, and his theory is garbage... wat?
Votes for me (workdawg) because I was pressuring people.
Unvotes me.
Votes himself...
Unvotes himself after people tell him how terrible that is.
Decides he will sheep VE and votes no-lynch.
unvotes when people tell him sheeping VE looks scummy.
Votes Cym for lurking and not helping town.

And that's JUST votes. Of all of that, two of them are things I could maybe see as being reasonable.

Other things I noticed. He says that he has never played before, but then later he refers to playing on some yugioh site. This is his first game on this site, but it makes me wonder how much he's played on whatever yugioh site he was talking about. Is he acting the newbie role to try and slide under the radar?

Others

Grimm, VE, Cobbler and even Tomie I don't have strong reads on.

Grimm I would say I feel is the most town right now.
Tomie I would give a slight town read as well. He's provided good discussion points, despite them being mainly directed at me.
Cobbler and VE are middle of the road. They've both done things that I can see either way.

[bluepokemon1234]

Blue

He continues to rub me the wrong way, and I'm not sure if it's because he's so new or what. He bends to the will of whoever he chats with over night. I loaded up his ISO and it's 111 POSTS? W T F.

He votes VE, then unvotes when bigAl points out his reason for the vote is terrible. (go with the flow)
He reads the thread (after being pressured to by Grimm) then votes for VE AGAIN. This time because VE voted for zihark. (OMGUS)
Unvotes AGAIN after Grimm and bigAl tell him his reason for voting is bad.
Let's restart... -_-
Votes for Grimm, a vote I don't actually hate. He has a reason at least. Not sure on if it's really accurate or not, but hey.
Unvotes because they all had a nice SEVENTY FIVE post campfire chat and apparently that convinced him Grimm isn't scum.
FOS cym because cym agrees with him, and his theory is garbage... wat?
Votes for me (workdawg) because I was pressuring people.
Unvotes me.
Votes himself...
Unvotes himself after people tell him how terrible that is.
Decides he will sheep VE and votes no-lynch.
unvotes when people tell him sheeping VE looks scummy.
Votes Cym for lurking and not helping town.

And that's JUST votes. Of all of that, two of them are things I could maybe see as being reasonable.

Other things I noticed. He says that he has never played before, but then later he refers to playing on some yugioh site. This is his first game on this site, but it makes me wonder how much he's played on whatever yugioh site he was talking about. Is he acting the newbie role to try and slide under the radar?

you sum up my votes pretty well as for the yughio thing i keap refering to im on a witing list and willl be in a game tomorrow but this is indead my frist game.

[Workdawg]

Do you have any explanation for why you have switched your vote around so much, and why you seem to be doing it when someone gives you negative feedback about it?

[bluepokemon1234]

beacuse I dont want to do something that screws over town and dont like pepole mad at me also im expermenting with diffrent startegys so far I find a all out noob claim is the funest.

also ik no im pretty spamy but im always like that i dont have compostion skill to sit and write copel paragraphs it bores me

[bluepokemon1234]

your next after the cy lynch btw

[Cobblerfone]

Hmm... Interesting. Maybe blue is the better lynch out of the two of blue and cymru?

[bluepokemon1234]

we are both going to get a lynch by games end any way

[bluepokemon1234]

if cy flips red they will go for me if green they willl go for me

if i fliped green they would go after cy if fliped red they would go after cy we are both dead

cy will probaly go frist beacuse of the leading vote count but who knows

[Nobody Special]

The Fonz replaces Miss JJ effective immediately.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.09

cymru96 - 3 - Workdawg, bigAl, bluepokemon1234
bigAl - 1 - Grimmjow
Grimmjow - 1 - The Fonz
The Fonz - 1 - cymru96

Not Voting: Cobblerfone, Tomie Uzumaki, VisceraEyes

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: June 30 -- (expired on 2011-06-30 11:00:00)

V/LA: ...

[cymru96]

Unvote: The fonz

I have a FoS on you cause I thought/think you person you replaced is scum.

Blue kinda makes a good point about either me or him going soon after each other but saying that it would probably be me coz of vote count is like asking someone to finish me off and I'm getting suspicious.

[Workdawg]

beacuse I dont want to do something that screws over town and dont like pepole mad at me

also im expermenting with diffrent startegys so far I find a all out noob claim is the funest.

also ik no im pretty spamy but im always like that i dont have compostion skill to sit and write copel paragraphs it bores me

What? (above bolded section)

You are trying out different strategies and claiming "all out newb" is one of them? So you are lying to us?

Also, do you think you could try spell checking your posts before you post them? Most browsers run check as you go, the little red underlines show what is misspelled. When I quoted your above, like 1/3 of the words are misspelled. It's really hard to read.

VOTE: blue

Lying (see above), contributing almost no content, and not taking a stance on ANYTHING (changing votes and opinions whenever anyone gives him negative feedback)

Welcome Fonz!

[bluepokemon1234]

ok thats fine altought im not lieing this is my frist game i meant im haveing fun as a noob

[bluepokemon1234]

anyway i wonder me or cy

[bluepokemon1234]

i sure hope cy is scum so its a win for us

[bluepokemon1234]

VOTE: bluepokemon1234[/VOTE: that makes the votes two to two take your pick ve

[bluepokemon1234]

VOTE: bluepokemon1234

[bluepokemon1234]

bigAl - 1 - Grimmjow
Grimmjow - 1 - The Fonz
The Fonz - 1 - cymru96

anybody that dosnt have there vote on me or cy should change their vote too one of us