New York 134: Planet of Hats (Scum Win!)

[chkballin]

Hmm. So the most likely lynch of the day is Swag and myself.

Just going off of connections, I'd say Swag is the better lynch as it'll show us which other votes (or even ones on his wagon) came from likely scum/town.

Just going off of current posting, I'd still say Swag is the better lynch as his disappearence seems more-than-coincidental.

But that's coming from the other most-likely lynch so it's all going to sound like I'm just trying to survive, amirite?

UNVOTE: Thor665 - I spoke with glow about this vote and it's obv not on scum.

Still re-reading but I'm coming closer to being fully caught up. I've only got a couple pages to go.

~ CHK

[TBuG]

Okay, I was very busy today and have only really had the chance to read through the thread twice, but one suspect is standing out pretty prominently in my mine - DeityKabuto. I'm against PLs on principle, but I felt the strong need to ISO and this guy has managed to make the second-most posts despite maybe three of them having any sort of valuable comment whatsoever. He also seems to be a big fan of quote walls without actually giving any real analysis or... anything relevant with them. He just kind of makes stupid comments on them.

[chkballin]

I take it you've never played a game with DK? That's his MO be it town or scum. Do you feel he has more connections (game progression wise) than myself or Swag? I don't personally think he does but wouldn't exactly be opposed to his lynch since it would make the game run a little smoother. One less filler-poster.

~ CHK

[Palisade]

...Yeah...
There's a reason you two are the lead candidates right now.
Can we go PBuG (Swag's replacement)?

[chkballin]

I completely understand that, which is why I'm trying to talk to PBuG. So this day can get further.

I think it's laughable that the only viable person PBuG can latch on to is freakin' DK. scum-trying-too-hard much?

~ CHK

[SleepyKrew]

Okay, I see the reasoning now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: whateveraccountballisusing

What reasoning specifically do you agree with?

Pushing a wagon without voting. Gets town-cred if we catch scum, can say "I didn't vote" if it's a mislynch.

[chkballin]

Some reads I've developed.

PeregrineV

-

scumtastic

Has anyone else noticed that this guy hasn't done any scum hunting whatsoever? Four posts, one of which is RVS garbage and just doesn't count at all in my book. So three posts; one jumping on the common bandwagon, one saying he thinks this slot is town, and one unvote off the common bandwagon to allow the replacement time to weigh in. My opinion? He's scum trying to prod-dodge and stay afloat. He appears as if he's helping the game at first glance but it's quite obvious that you'd have

something

more to say after sixteen pages. The fact that he hasn't is insanely unbelievable to me.

PBuG

-

scummiertastic

I already made comment about the fact that the only person they care to mention is the fluff-o-matic DK. Which he probably just sheeped off of, I don't know, the over half a dozen others that have said it in these sixteen pages? Give me a break, dude. You're not going to convince me that your top suspect is DK - especially not when you're filling a newbscum spot with a lot of heat on you. The post (#376) states that he read through the

entire thread twice

and the

only thing

he came up with was DK? Like I already said, scum-trying-too-hard here guys. Trying way to hard to try to fit in and avoid the lynch the slot is ever so deserving of. The fact that PBuG made a point to note that DK has the second most posts makes me think he just clicked 'activity overview' and just claimed to have read the whole game twice.

Celebloki

-

slighttown

Although his main read could very well be sheeped as it's pretty much the more popular wagon (save jilly but even that avenue didn't seem that unpopular) it reads to me like he's being sincere and honest with his posts. He even looked into meta and took a jab at Thor; I don't think scum would make that attempt in that fashion. Not at all. Town motivated posting = townread D1.

DeityKabuto

-

unshockinglynull

With all the DK buzz going around I felt the need to state that I, personally, don't suspect DK to be scum and completely agree that he should be vigged instead of lynched if it has to come to that at all. It's nearly impossible to read him (not in the "he's a good player" sort of way, more like "Jesus where does the fluff and and real scum hunting start?") and it's even more impossible for us to actually get him to play the game the way we'd like him to play it (y'know, correctly) so all in all it's pretty pointless to go down that avenue if you're not the vig. The only time I'll support his lynch is if it's to avoid his presense in lylo.

I don't feel it's the right time to give full reads on the whole playerlist, I just wanted to share some of my stronger reads. That being said:

VOTE: PBuG

~ CHK

PEDIT: Yeah, right. Outright lie caught. Quote where glowball did that for me.
PROTIP: You're not going to find it.

[xRECKONERx]

Okay, I see the reasoning now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: whateveraccountballisusing

What reasoning specifically do you agree with?

Pushing a wagon without voting. Gets town-cred if we catch scum, can say "I didn't vote" if it's a mislynch.

^ town

[SleepyKrew]

No Reck, I won't have sex with you.

[xRECKONERx]

86 that town read.

[SleepyKrew]

OK, but it has to be hushhush.

[kryptinen]

Okay, PBuG is here and after reading the thread twice only one person has caught your eye, apart from the player you're replacing? ...Yeah, try again. I'd especially like to know what you think about Ballin, and if you think you can actually get enough people onto DK wagon with just that.

On the orher hand Ballin hydra has actually done something and unvoted. Still no explanation for the vote, but that can be overlooked.

UNVOTE: Ballin VOTE: PBuG

I don't find Palisade's "who's up for a X lynch? how about Y?" very helpful. The way it's just looking for acceptance is not very towny. If you want someone lynched make a case against them.

@Mod: Votecount please

[JDGA]

Right, chkballin's second head seems to be contributing quite a lot. I like it. UNVOTE: chkballin
However, any more tomfoolery from glowball and that vote goes right back on.
First, however, PBuG doesn't exactly seem to be doing much other than to ignore ALL the other suspects in favour of DK, which seems outright stupid.
I'll quickly tally up an abbreviated votecount, and move my vote to her if she's not too close to a quickhammer.

[JDGA]

Ok, so they're both on 7 votes for L-5.
I'm fine with a VOTE: PBuG in that case. I mean, Swag's three posts were bad to begin with, and PBuG isn't exactly helping her case

one bit

.

[SleepyKrew]

PBuG is a man.

[Wraith]

Votecount 1.4

PBuG

(8)

:

xRECKONERx

,

Thor665

, Palisade,

PeregrineV

,

bvoigt

, Taro,

SleepyKrew

, 65536, Celebloki,

sanchocolates

, Mist7676, chkballin, kryptinen, JDGA

chkballin

(6)

:

Tomie Uzumaki, Thor665, xRECKONERx,

JDGA

, sanchocolates, bvoigt, SleepyKrew

DeityKabuto

(2)

:

xRECKONERx

,

Tomie Uzumaki

,

Parabollocks

,

Thor665

, PBuG,

Knight of Cydonia

, jilynne1991,

Taro

sanchocolates

(1)

:

DeityKabuto

JDGA

(1)

:

BeaverWeasel

Parabollocks

(0)

:

Palisade

Knight of Cydonia

(0)

:

Knight of Cydonia

Thor665

(0)

:

PeregrineV

,

chkballin

65536

(0)

:

BeaverWeasel

Taro

(0)

:

Taro

xRECKONERx

(0)

:

kryptinen

Palisade

(0)

:

bvoigt

,

sanchocolates

jilynne1991

(0)

:

SleepyKrew

,

Parabollocks

,

JDGA

,

Celebloki

Not Voting

(4)

:

Zihark, Parabollocks, Knight of Cydonia, PeregrineV

Deadline is

July 10, 2011

With 22 alive it takes

12

to lynch.

[sanchocolates]

San needs to explain the timing of his votes. Why at those moments did he switch?

Because at that time, I got on the computer.

[xRECKONERx]

Every time I look at this game, I want to NOT post in it.

[Celebloki]

We just need to lynch PBuG already. Swag made the mistake and what I read from PBuGs entrance was essentially, "Wow, I'm caught, might as well pick on the easiest target to see if it gets me anywhere."

[Thor665]

How's the 'scummiest wagon hop' coming along? You don't even need to post much to communicate that.

[Thor665]

We just need to lynch PBuG already. Swag made the mistake and what I read from PBuGs entrance was essentially, "Wow, I'm caught, might as well pick on the easiest target to see if it gets me anywhere."

So DK is obv. town?

[Celebloki]

No, as I stated before, I agree with his vig tonight, and if PBuG flips scum after being lynched and DK is not vigged tonight I am going to be voting DK tomorrow as his scumbuddy.

[xRECKONERx]

YOU SEE THOR?
THIS IS WHY WE DON'T START COUNTERWAGONS TO SWAG IN THE FIRST FUCKIN' PLACE. BECAUSE ALL THEY DO IS CAUSE ME STRESS.

Kay so first off, kryptinen's vote on chkballin is terrible. Her vote goes "I didn't see the case until chk voted Thor… but now I see it". Also she threatens Swag's replacement if he doesn't do anything useful… then never follows up on it.

Then we have this little gem from bvoigt…

This is a vote from a scum mindset...trying to appear town, not actually thinking like town. It's not real scumhunting; she's simply trying to make a policy vote (Lynch All Liars), without actually thinking Thor is more likely to be scum

hooooooo boy. Lynch all liars is a perfectly valid argument/policy to follow, but bvoigt somehow shifts that into a scumtell. Me no likey.

SleepyKrew's hop on there has the least content "Okay, I see the reasoning now" but this honestly tickles me as TOWN because 1) I've played with SleepyScum before/read a game with SleepyScum and he's more cautious than this and 2) it screams town because he doesn't try to go over the top and come up with a new point or new case or something -- he just says "I like the above cases" and jumps on the wagon.

I'd prefer a kryptinen lynch to a bvoigt lynch, but only by a smidge.

If kryptinen is scum, Swag is 100% kryptinenbuddy.

However... I very much dislike this current wagon on glowball, all the other wagons such, DK is eating a vig tonight anyway, and PBuG is going to need to get lynched anyway due to Swag's play. There's literally no way he can survive, and it's not like PBuG's replace-in play has been any better... seriously, he champions a DK lynch in his replacement post?

*sigh*

There's little content from PBuG though, so I'd rather do this:

Unvote; Vote: kryptinen

JOIN ME THORAZINE

[Thor665]

I strongly agree with your Sleepy read - I'm not sure about the rest. I was actually going to suggest just ending Swag/PB by wagon till lynch, but I owe you a sheep anyway and am not fond of krypt's play either;

Unvote: chk/glow/ball/in/flip
Vote: kryptinen

[bvoigt]

This is a vote from a scum mindset...trying to appear town, not actually thinking like town. It's not real scumhunting; she's simply trying to make a policy vote (Lynch All Liars), without actually thinking Thor is more likely to be scum

hooooooo boy. Lynch all liars is a perfectly valid argument/policy to follow, but bvoigt somehow shifts that into a scumtell. Me no likey.

It's not a valid policy to follow when something's obviously not intended to be true. Glowball's vote doesn't look sincere at all...does Thor claiming daycop really make him more likely to be scum?