Newbie 1104 -- Game over

[Haylen]

Prob-town isn't good enough for process of elimination.

[Haylen]

Vote Muffin

[zMuffinMan]

@Twisted,

No. While it's all nice and cool that you compromised yesterday, I want you to compromise with me again today and re-read Haylen from the perspective she's scum and #718 was a slip.

noragar is really, really town. It should be pretty obvious at this point that I'm the NK if this goes to night 3 so I would rather get my choice of lynch today, and if I'm wrong again, leave the game in your hands.

I will compromise with you so far as considering the possibility I'm way, way, way off in my read on noragar, and I will re-read him from the perspective he's scum, but I really don't like that everyone is giving Haylen a free pass right now.

[zMuffinMan]

Prob-town isn't good enough for process of elimination.

Yes, it is. It is, at the very least, a good enough reason for PoE meaning you are my top suspect.

Where's your ISO analysis of Twisted, btw?

And where's your ISO analysis of chkflip/me while we're at it?

[Haylen]

Now look at all my posts from the perspective that I'm town. Or perhaps you just think I'm scum because you couldn't be bothered to actually read my posts earlier. You say you have all these reads but you don't explain them.

[Haylen]

I don't like how everyone game Muffin a free pass when he couldn't be bothered to read the game earlier.

[Twistedspoon]

why is 718 a slip?

[Twistedspoon]

if muffin was scum i feel he'd be wagoning noragar with me

[Twistedspoon]

scum muffin has no reason to defend noragar

[zMuffinMan]

Twisted,

She didn't actually think Espeonage was scum, and therefore knew it would reach D3, where she would be able to post her Twisted analysis. You don't say "I'm going to do it tomorrow" while hammering the person you think is the final scum.

[Twistedspoon]

I didn't think espe was that scummy either :/

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 3.01

noragar - 1 - Twistedspoon
zMuffinMan - 1 - Haylen

Not Voting: noragar, Morthas, gbevilchaos, zMuffinMan

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: July 11

V/LA: ...

[Haylen]

You clearly didn't read my post on Espeonage prior to my hammer. I said I was still deciding on what I thought of Espeonage but I was leaning scum, and then I hammered so it was clear I had made my decision -_-

TS...you were on his wagon.

[zMuffinMan]

So, Haylen, to be clear, you really thought Espeonage was scum and you weren't hammering for any other reason?

[Haylen]

Along with nobody wanted to vote for CC's replacement. I change my mind, btw, Morthax is probably town. I also thought day had gone on long enough.

[Haylen]

What reasons did you think I was hammering for?

[zMuffinMan]

I just wanted to confirm you thought he was scum.

I need to read some things (your ISO in particular) before I say anything else today.

[Twistedspoon]

TS...you were on his wagon.

that has been explained

[gbevilchaos]

You clearly didn't read my post on Espeonage prior to my hammer. I said I was still deciding on what I thought of Espeonage but I was leaning scum, and then I hammered so it was clear I had made my decision -_-

Haylscum, being a pro, would probably gradually change thought process instead of suddenly saying "oh wait - Espe is scum now!"

Coming from a smart player, your defense isn't that strong. I still don't like that either of you (TS and Hayl) jumped on the wagon without being convinced of Espescum.

Also, Muffin, why should we all compromise with you? You were wrong on Espe. Not accusing you of being scum, but your reads aren't the only valid ones (clearly, based on Espetown).

[zMuffinMan]

gb, if everyone sheeps me and I'm wrong again, then at least you learn a valuable lesson: never sheep zmuffinman because he's an idiot. That's a good thing to learn in your first newbie game. Better you learn it sooner than later.

But I don't expect people to just sheep me without a reason to, especially when a lot of people seem to have some sort of town read on Haylen. So I will be reviewing her in ISO, and then I will make a case on her if I still think she's scum.

[Twistedspoon]

I still don't like that either of you (TS and Hayl) jumped on the wagon without being convinced of Espescum.

neither do i

but we needed info. I was confident noragar was scum and I thought we all had a mutual agreement to lynch noragar today if i comprimised with an espe lynch yesterday

sometimes we can't all have our favourite lynch. Yesterday was an example

and it didn't matter to me anyways since I'm still adamant noragar is scum and thought we were lynching him today

[Twistedspoon]

@mod: can a mafia rolecop both kill and rolecop during one night?

[Nobody Special]

2of4 Setup

The 2of4 setup is a test game format we’re trying out in Newbie games to get around balance issues with the F11 setup. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen as detailed below:

• 1 Mafia Goon
  
• 1 Mafia RoleCop
  
• 5 Vanilla Townies
  
• 2 of the following (no duplicates possible): (Cop 25%, Doctor 25%, Jailkeeper 25%, Vanilla Townie 25%)

Notes

1. The RoleCop has the option of submitting both the night kills and investigations, even when the Goon is still alive.
2. Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the Night action PM is submitted!

I believe the part in blue is the part you want.

So

glad people read my rules.

[gbevilchaos]

I still don't like that either of you (TS and Hayl) jumped on the wagon without being convinced of Espescum.

neither do i

but we needed info. I was confident noragar was scum and I thought we all had a mutual agreement to lynch noragar today if i comprimised with an espe lynch yesterday

sometimes we can't all have our favourite lynch. Yesterday was an example

and it didn't matter to me anyways since I'm still adamant noragar is scum and thought we were lynching him today

Ok, I can understand that. There was just a failure in communication here, I guess.

[Twistedspoon]

I believe the part in blue is the part you want.

So

glad people read my rules.

sorry

I read the sample role PM and it wasn't there