Succession Mafia II: OVER!
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Cobblerfone I don't knowMafia ScumI don't know
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Battousai Mafia Scum
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ThAd 1516- Not in this setup. I believe that if you think someone is at best null, that you shouldn't be willing to lynch them. A mislynch is even more detrimental (especially D1 when a mislynch will give us no information unlike other following days).
Andrius 1545- What, no breakfast?
I'd be happy with a Ludi lynch yesterday, though others have bumped the slot down on my scum list. I think Cobbler is lying scum, so I'm happy with that lynch. One way or another he'll die this game anyways.
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Herodotus Black Ops
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Seraphim wrote:There is a high likelihood that Yos wasn't scum previous to last night, jury's out, but I don't think he's been recruited yet. I don't want to claim my ability but I think it should be blindingly obvious.
Also, why do you keep mispelling my name? "Serephem"? It's Seraphim.
Given all the information we have, I say we either lynch Ludi or Cobbler.
Vote: Magister Ludi
This is one of the worst posts here. Start with a softclaim, move on to focusing on the spelling of your name, make an unsupported assertion that one of two prob-townies is scum, then vote one of said prob-townies.
There has been a lot of badposting in this game, but you've been low activity, and you're capable of playing decently. I expect better from you.Just because a majority of a group of people decide it's okay doesn't mean it's not murder. - Cobblerfone-
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Cobblerfone wrote:xvart wrote:You told everyone you were recruitable, which you do not know based on the information Flay gave you. There is obvious reasons why Flay would not answer that question either way under either assumption. You are N0 recruit. You deceived the town and provided information which you do not know.
Half-fakeclaiming isn't such a bad idea. Maybe you'll see if I get nightkilled.
So, he admits he was fakeclaiming, and now he's back to saying:
Cobblerfone wrote:
To the best of my knowledge I'm unrecruitable though.
Which is it, cobbler?I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Herodotus Black Ops
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Cobblerfone I don't knowMafia ScumI don't know
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Seraphim she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Yosarian2 (shrug)
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The excuse you originally gave for fakeclaiming unrecruitable was that you thought other "teamsters" might also be unrecruitable. Now that we know that that was a lie, why did you claim unrecruitable, if not just to avoid being lynched?I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Cobblerfone I don't knowMafia ScumI don't know
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Yosarian2 wrote:The excuse you originally gave for fakeclaiming unrecruitable was that you thought other "teamsters" might also be unrecruitable. Now that we know that that was a lie, why did you claim unrecruitable, if not just to avoid being lynched?
I thought they might be unrecruitable too. Then around the time RaudhrGarm soft-claimed vanilla and xvart seemed suspicious I asked Mr. Flay about what happens if the recruiters try to recruit me.Avatar by me-
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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OH NOW WE LYNCH THE OBVHERPADERPA VI PLAYER THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE TO RECRUIT PRETTY MUCH EVER.
AND WE DEBATE ABOUT TOO SCUMMY TO BE SCUM, RAGE, WALLOTEXT, NOU AND SUCH.
WHILE DGB GETS A FREE PASS.
SIGH.Call me Tajo.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12894
Coming summer 2010: Tajo's Starcraft Mafia.
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Tanarin Goon
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Cobblerfone wrote:Yosarian2 wrote:The excuse you originally gave for fakeclaiming unrecruitable was that you thought other "teamsters" might also be unrecruitable. Now that we know that that was a lie, why did you claim unrecruitable, if not just to avoid being lynched?
I thought they might be unrecruitable too. Then around the time RaudhrGarm soft-claimed vanilla and xvart seemed suspicious I asked Mr. Flay about what happens if the recruiters try to recruit me.
What I am not getting is the fact you claim flay said he could not tell you if you were or were not unrecruitable. You would think if it mentions being unrecruitable in your Role PM, it would either be spelled out, or if you asked about it, he would indeed TELL you if you are or are not. So just to get the facts straight, here is what I am gathering happened according to you:
Garm claims vanilla.
You PM flay about being unrecruitable or not.
He comes back with an answer that says you COULD be but he is not fully telling.
You go and claim you ARE unrecruitable.
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Cobblerfone I don't knowMafia ScumI don't know
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Garm claims vanilla.
You PM flay about being unrecruitable or not.
He comes back with an answer that says you COULD be but he is not fully telling.
You go and claim you ARE unrecruitable.
I think that's right. More or less. You'll understand if I ever die or get in a position to fullclaim.Avatar by me-
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OK, so now that the time line is established, what good in your mind would not only outting yourself but the other teamsters get you? Especially not knowing if they were or were not unrecruitable in any extent. This holds even more weight KNOWING there are at minimum 2 kills that can go flying on any given night.-
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Fritzler More /in than you!
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Tanarin wrote:OK, so now that the time line is established, what good in your mind would not only outting yourself but the other teamsters get you?
I didn't claim until after I voted xvart to explain my way of thinking because I was certain we weren't the same roles any more. So how is that outting the other teamsters?Avatar by me-
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Magister Ludi Mafia Scum
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Swamped by graduation and other such things. More posts coming over next few days.
DGB is still scum. Tajo lined it out rather nicely with a series of quotes.
Seraphim is also highly likely scum at this point. I have information that pretty much confirms he is lying about what he did last night.
Cobble still doesn't look recruited. No cult is going to come out and say 'tehehe, I was lying to you guys on day one, let me spell my contradiction out for you to lynch me over'. It's town.-
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Magister Ludi Mafia Scum
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If you confirm you say you
A. Targeted Yos last night and
B. Found out information
I don't need anything more.
Also you need to explain how you switched to 'Magister Ludi has no chance of being town' based on no actual reasoning I can so whatsoever.
And I would have voted you if there was not a far more obvious cult in DrippingGoofball.-
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Magister Ludi wrote:
Cobble still doesn't look recruited. No cult is going to come out and say 'tehehe, I was lying to you guys on day one, let me spell my contradiction out for you to lynch me over'. It's town.
My guess is that he got scared after I mentioned how in the last game certain power roles were unrecrutable and certain power roles were not. Since he was lying, he didn't have enough information to fake a claim without knowing which roles in this game are unrecrutable. Therefore, he decided to back out of his claim while he still could.
That doesn't PROVE he's scum; DGB's "townie who fakeclaimed unrecruitable so as to not get recruited" theory could still apply here. It's still the most likely possibility, though.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Fritzler More /in than you!
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Sorry for criticizing the earlier softclaim, I didn't put it together with Seraphim's first post of the day.
@Ludi: you need to reread your role PM and think about it carefully. If it's possible that you are making bad assumptions about how various roles work or the details of what Seraphim is claiming, you may want to drop this issue.
OTOH, if you're a tracker who tracked Seraphim to someone other than Yos2, and you're ignoring that because you think your 133t scumhunting ski11z are better than mod-confirmation that someone is lying, then (I don't know how to finish this sentence politely).
Magister, Cobbler, xvart, Yos2... none of them was recruited last night, and each has only a 1/12 chance - adjusted based on expected chances of being lynched - of having been recruited during night zero. There should be no votes on any of them.
Populartajo - take your finger off the shift key, you'll find it easier to type. Also, DGb is correct that Ludi's reasoning is bad.
But DGb, that's not because he's scum.Just because a majority of a group of people decide it's okay doesn't mean it's not murder. - Cobblerfone-
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I am here. I think that the case against Cobblerfone based on his changing claims is reasonable, so I'd be willing to support his lynch. I don't understand why the quote from ML by DGB (something about him being unable to see her as town confirms him as scum) implies that he is scum. On the other hand, I think that the case against DGB makes quite a bit of sense.
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