New York 131: Tricycle Mafia (Day 5)

[Toon Fighter]

I don't know if we should trust Zpeh's claim, but I want to hear the full claim before I vote him or someone else

[MrZepher]

I have 3 actions.
I used 1-shot watcher on NS night 1 because his lack on contribution seemed odd and that was the only investigative role I have.

I wasn't around day 2 if you recall so I no actioned, and I was going to target Maxous last night but then I thought that Toon would vig him, so I no actioned.
I knew that scum would want to get rid of a confirmed town over an iffy Vig claim (the SK drama that happened, which in the end was my fault but it worked out I suppose)

@Pine
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CLAIM WITH 2 VOTES ON ME?
It didn't look like the wagon would build up so fast so I didn't take any matter on it.

@Toon
I want to avoid claiming my role 100%, but smart town should be able to figure out my other two actions.

[Pine]

No, fuck it. VOTE: Zepher

I read a little more, and this claim strikes me as hardcore flailing. Important information that didn't come out when it would have been useful looks faked. Probably WIFOM. If Zepher flips JOAT as advertised, we know NS is probably guilty, because...honestly, NS's performance is among the scummiest I've ever seen. Only the cop crumb was to his favor. 1-2 scum in {Zepher, NS}. 97% certain.

@Maxous: I believe Toon is probably SK. Vig claim + scumminess. It doesn't actually matter though, not yet. If he's vig, there's no way scum will suffer him to live. If he's SK, same deal, except he may be BP. If he lives the night and we're missing a kill, we lynch the BP SK, who I don't want to see live to a Kingmaker endgame.

And don't give me that SK-acts-as-vig bullshit. It doesn't work out in the end, and there's no incentive for the SK except to betray the Town in LyLo.

[Toon Fighter]

re-reading KoC play from D2, it seems to me that he may have had a guilty on DK, or an innocent on mastin. That, coupled with MrZeph claim, gives us absolutely nothing in terms of information except putting NS back in the suspect list.

I will believe Zeph's claim unless someone else CC's, and I am going to turn to my next favourite suspect:

vote: Pine

I kinda guess what your last 2 powers may be, but I don't need further clarification on that.

[Maxous]

@Zepher:
Important: Did you breadcrumb?
Why did you softclaim VT?
Does this have a relation to your preference of being vigged rather than lynched?

If what Mr.Zepher says is true then with no cop-clear NS is looking like scum.
I'm going to take a break now and sleep on it.

[Pine]

I notice no night 3 claim.

Toon's rage against me is born of fear. He doesn't have others to rely on if he dies, he has only himself. Classic SK behavior.

[Toon Fighter]

Pine, stop with the WIFOM shenanigans. I can totally see scum missing their kill for the opportunity to lynch me tomorrow. Even more now, that you gave them the idea. I am Vig, I play for town, and I win with town. You have made a worst town play than me, robbing us of a free kill (Max) that would have helped us a lot today. I prefer to see you lynched and give Zeph the benifit of the claim, if only to get him lynched tomorrow.

[Nobody Special]

A quick skim of night-deaths suggests you have successfully blocked someone twice. Now to re-read in chrono-context. But I likely won't get to that till late tonight.

Also, please share your N1 result on me. I'm all ears! If it comes out a certain way, I can explain (hopefully to your satisfaction). (No softclaiming here, no sirree.)

[silverbullet999]

Pine... is now sure ns is scum... what?

-_-

[MrZepher]

Dude seriously?
If you'll stop tunneling me for like 20 seconds you'll see that if you lynch me not only do we lose a vig,
But we lose the only other semi-useful protective role we have left, or at least to my knowledge.

I've already explained that with Toon outed he SHOULDN'T make it to LYLO, and that more than likely he'll be night killed before that point, or he be the lynch that takes us into LYLO.

I told you, there was no reason for me to claim. The only "case" was yours and it's pretty transparent.
Maxous' case is paper thin; there's a vote because I don't remember every point at which I've suspected NS?
Toon told me to claim, and in my head I said "no fuck that, scum are going to try to quick wagon me", and while I apparently held it off, it was only for a few more pages :\.

Wait why did I unvote?

Nobody Special

Oh yeah it was because I wanted everyone's opinions on my case on Maxous to see if I could find scum.
I forget that the scum in this game either blatantly ignore what I ask them or they weasel around it.

WHERE THE FUCK IS NHAMMEN.

If anything lynch NS today and let me die tonight, so the vig can get one more night to weed out the scum.

PREDIT:
@Toon
Pine's town. Stop that.
@Pine
Toon's town. Stop that.

@Maxous
I wanted to be vigged since it's not distracting for the town. Make sense? I don't want to be mislynched because that's worse off then getting NK'd. At least this way you guys can see my flip and you'll know that I'm not fucking crazy.
If Toon somehow dies tonight then you can lynch me tomorrow, see my flip, and know that at that point Pine and somebody else is scum (since he's the only claimed roleblocking ability)

@NS
I didn't get anything on you N1. No cops, no roleblocks, no docs, no jailkeeps, no vig shots, nothing.

WHERE THE FUCK IS NHAMMEN.

[Pine]

Pine, stop with the WIFOM shenanigans. I can totally see scum missing their kill for the opportunity to lynch me tomorrow.

This is a

moronic

suggestion. Any scum would rather just kill you and be done with it, killing someone else at the least.

This is 100% setting up for him to survive tomorrow.

Unvote
Vote: Toon

The quote above is DAMNING when coupled with a vig claim. I am now 100% certain that Toon is SK, and am setting aside the two-man scumteam to eliminate the one-man scumteam.

PE: Silver stop being a fucktard. I said Zepher/NS contains one scum (yes, I'm amending that, I don't see this as a bus). I have an unprecedented number of strong scumreads. The only one I'm 100% on is Toon.

[Toon Fighter]

I don't care about my survival tomorrow. You just care about yours. And don't come OMGUS'ing me, you are the sum in here, not me.

Bah, I'm not gonna explain it anymore, I am vig, you'll see when I get NK tonight (unless I get protected, since I don't have NK immunity).

At least I hope you have the decency to admit you were wrong when I die.

[Pine]

Lolol. Calling my vote OMGUS, then using the fact that I RBed him last night out of suspicion as evidence against me. Pick a side, you can't play both.

As for your repeated vocal Town-claims...methinks the lady doth protest too much.

[MrZepher]

Sorry I flubbed the vote in my last post

VOTE: Nobody Special

[Toon Fighter]

Well, if NS flips town, we know who to kill tonight, so

unvote, vote: NS

I just hope Pine drops the idiot ball, and, if town, blocks someone actually useful for town -.-

[silverbullet999]

blocks someone actually useful for town? hm?

[Pine]

Well, if NS flips town, we know who to kill tonight, so

unvote, vote: NS

I just hope Pine drops the idiot ball, and, if town, blocks someone actually useful for town -.-

Oh? And who do "we" kill tonight, Toon?

For that matter, who would you have me block?

[quadz08]

The Votecount Which Seventh Occurs on Day the Fourth

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

silverbullet999 (0) –
nhammen (0) –
Pine (1) – Nhammen
MrZepher (2) – Maxous, Nobody Special

L-1 --->

Nobody Special (4) – Uite, silverbullet999, MrZepher, Toon Fighter
Uite (0) -
Toon Fighter (1) – Pine
Maxous (0) –

Not Voting (0) –

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-06-26 02:00:00)

[nhammen]

Holy crap. The game blows up, but I'm about to leave. I just checked in before leaving and saw the claim. This removes my reason for not voting NS, but I do NOT have time to count votes right now, so I will
UNVOTE:

And say that if NS is not at L-1 I will vote him.


Also, my quick look at the game has shown multiple cases of people asking where I am. I posted yesterday, and I have a life and a job.

PRE-EDIT: Nice timing of a votecount. I will not vote NS yet, and will have much comments tomorrow.

[silverbullet999]

UNVOTE:

[Pine]

Seriously? After all that, Silver? You stay on stubborn as all hell when there appears to be evidence clearing him, arguing yourself blind, and now that the wagon gets close to lynch and that evidence is discarded, you unceremoniously unvote?

Please, please stop being a failure.

[silverbullet999]

Pine you are seriously about to drive me batshit crazy.

How is the evidence "discarded"

All I see is pine didn't do anything night 1. Which confuses the shit outta me now why both toon and zeph are voting him.

I'm probably being a confused blind idiot again but I need explanations... also post 1214 just looks... wrong

[MrZepher]

Watcher means I can only see who visits my target.
I didn't ever see KoC visit him, which was the thing semi-clearing NS.

Toon has had problems with his grammar, I wouldn't doubt that's another one; especially if was all riled up during that post.

[Pine]

@Silver: "Discarded" was perhaps a poor choice of word. To clarify, it has been called into doubt, its validity questioned.

As for "not doing anything Night 1"...

@nhammen: I targeted Uite. He's been very lurky and I had few other leads. Like with cop-investigation, I think it's more likely that scum would send their lurkiest member to make the kill. Remember in TWBB how we always sent you to make the kill?

[Toon Fighter]

By blocking someone useful for town, I mean blocking someone that harms town. Sorry if the post came out confusing :s

I propose that we kill/block in the {Max, Zeph} pair, depending on NS's flip