Mini 1193: Hacker's Panic mafia. (Game Over)

[CooLskins]

~CooLDoG

[bobsnox]

WOOOOOOHOOOOOO

CooLskins and Beck just both double RVSed. There is a 100% chance at least one is scum.
Hrezs has posted and isn't voting. There is an 80% chance he is scum.
Surye hasn't posted yet outside of confirmation and I'd like the mod to unofficially prod him. There is a 100% chance he will post following that prod.
kondi is still a totally good policy lynch. There is a 50% chance I will keep my vote on him after this post.
This game's only on page three. It's impossible for me to have caught all the scum at this point, but there is an 80% chance that 2 of the 3 players I have mentioned are scum, and a 100% chance that at least one is.

This wagon isn't helpful at all.

CooLskins, why is Beck scum?
Beck, why is CooLskins scum?
Hrezs, why is kondi town?
bobsnox, why is blue?

No, that's why this wagon IS helpful. What is your gut saying, Parama? Who would you vote other than kondi?

[Parama]

I'd totally vote Hrezs because he's scum.
But I just can't stand kondi because [ongoing game].

and answer my question, dammit.

Not going to comment on CooLskins or Beck again until they've both posted responses.

[CooLskins]

@bob, what do you think of both my and beck's hop onto the parama wagon?

[Humble Poirot]

Those in danger of being exposed #2:

Hrezs (1)

- deselby,

Celebloki (1)

- Celebloki,

Parama (4)

- bobsnox, kondi2424, xvart, Beck,

xvart (1)

- don_johnson,

Surye (1)

- Haschel Cedricson,

kondi2424 (1)

- Parama,

CooLskins (1)

- Zodiark13,

Beck (1)

- CooLskins,

Not Voting (2)

- Hrezs, Surye,


That was the first automated votecount. Let's hope it works fine. You'll notice the order has changed. It now lists players according to the list on page 1.
(update) The automation worked fine. It was a human induced error. I check votes manually but the format of the votecount is automated for easy tracking and history purposes.

Only don on the player list. Do I have to type the whole name?

*No. As long as the abbreviation is clear I have no problem. -HP

[/quote]

Surye will get prodded as soon as he reaches the 72 hs timeframe. I won't be lenient with unnanounced inactivity, specially early in the game.
2 prods in the beginning and I'm going to look for a replacement before it starts hurting the game.

Also, remember that you will have the updated votecounts from last to first on post 1 of page 1

[Parama]

Definitely wrong. CooLskins changed their vote on the bottom of the last page.
Don't automate your votecounts please, mod.

*Thanks for pointing it out. See above update. - HP

[bobsnox]

and answer my question, dammit.

me? this?

bobsnox, why is blue?

Why is blue doesn't sound like a question I can answer...

[bobsnox]

@bob, what do you think of both my and beck's hop onto the parama wagon?

Beck seems like a newb. Kinda scummy for the "fireworks" comment.

I don't have a problem with your hop. I like your #74.

[Beck]

see I knew my vote would get some discussion going,m mission accomplished.

I don't buy the whole OMG look at these 2 people voted so one of them must be scum, so I cant answer the question that was asked, why is skinshydra scum because I don't know if they are scum or not and I am not scum so if skins flips town, that will prove to be one of the most stupidist comment made thus far, but seeing it came from the person who has the wagon on them, i don't hold much water to it.

note to parama - don't go making up percentages unless you can back it up with games on site, the fact that 2 people "double rvs'd" as you put it makes one of them 100% scum is complete horseshit.

my vote is firm on you, your reaction to your wagon is horrible.

[Beck]

simple really:

1) wishywashy in vote stages. Votes for hasc, then all of a sudden votes for don.
2) hops on biggest wagon that already has 4 peple on it. Which is plenty big for an rvs wagon
3) His votes don't contribute to the game. Hasc had 2 votes on him when he unvoted to a wagon that had no votes.
4) piggy-backing with an apparently experienced (I full heatedly deny this ) player to gain town credit.
5) doesn't seem to understand the magnitude of his vote.

I argue that your wagon has produced valued information. It exposed that all beck wants is a lynch and to appear town.

unvote, vote: beck

1. my vote on hasc was rvs, my vote on don had a reason, if you read my follow up posts you will see what that reason was, my vote on para was so obvious, it's not even funny. we are talking about how there is no activity, so I say in my post with my vote, that my vote will generate discussion, and OMG guess what..... IT DID.
2. I hopped on the wagon to get the game moving, the best way to do that is to get a serious wagon gooing
3. opinionated statement
4. lol you are pretty full of yourself
5. I absolutely understood the magnitude of my vote, I knew it placed him at L-2 and I knew it would generate attention to get discussion going, which it did. Mission accomplished.

[bobsnox]

hmmm do not like

UNVOTE: Parama

VOTE: Beck

[Beck]

@bob, what do you think of both my and beck's hop onto the parama wagon?

Beck seems like a newb. Kinda scummy for the "fireworks" comment.

I don't have a problem with your hop. I like your #74.

by fireworks, it was obvious that meant discussion. clearly I was putting the attention on myself, why do you think that is scummy?

[Surye]

Surye hasn't posted yet outside of confirmation and I'd like the mod to unofficially prod him. There is a 100% chance he will post following that prod.
kondi is still a totally good policy lynch. There is a 50% chance I will keep my vote on him after this post.

Genuis! I thought I bookmarked and subbed this thread, and I didn't, and so I forgot.

Quick catchup:
Not sure what's up with the Kondi policy lynch. QT remark is
I'm fine with the hydra.
No idea who Haschel Cedricson is, so no real response, other than wut.
Hrezs makes a good concise point. I'd like an answer to his question in #41

VOTE: Beck wagon hoooooooo!

[don_johnson]

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

[bobsnox]

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

Is that a scumtell though?

[xvart]

you don't really have one so I'll just take note and move on for now, another vote on para should add some fireworks

vote para

This is scummy. Taking note? Do you believe it or not? Is he lying or not? Is it a scumtell or not? From what I've seen so far it appears that this would be a justified reason to keep you vote at this stage in the game yet you go for fireworks?

see I knew my vote would get some discussion going,m mission accomplished.

I don't buy this.

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

don is partners with Beck.

VOTE: Beck

Parama's reaction and follow up to his wagon is town in my eyes.

[bobsnox]

Parama's reaction and follow up to his wagon is town in my eyes.

Agreed on Beck and agreed on the above.

[Beck]

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

I have a great sense of humor

bob, I asked you a question, could you please answer.

[Beck]

you don't really have one so I'll just take note and move on for now, another vote on para should add some fireworks

vote para

This is scummy. Taking note? Do you believe it or not? Is he lying or not? Is it a scumtell or not? From what I've seen so far it appears that this would be a justified reason to keep you vote at this stage in the game yet you go for fireworks?

see I knew my vote would get some discussion going,m mission accomplished.

I don't buy this.

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

don is partners with Beck.

VOTE: Beck

Parama's reaction and follow up to his wagon is town in my eyes.

yes I take mental notes to use later in the game, assuming I make it to later in the game. I don't know if he is lying and it surely isn't enough to say if it is a scumtell. he is somebody I am keeping my eye on though.

I'm sorry you don't buy it but it's the truth. The game was stale and boring, I was about to log out and never return because I was so damn bored, so in order to get the game going I decided to force the hand a little bit.

how does that comment make him partners with me? I don't understand? I don't even understand how don can even say I have no sense of humor, I thought my rvs vote for sharing snacks was quite witty.

Parama's reaction to his wagon was HORRIBLE, I don't know what the heck you are thinking if you actually think that reaction was genuine town. He immediately starts deflecting off himself by calling out multiple people.

1. he declares one of coolskins or myself is scum, 100% guaranteed and he is 80% he has caught a second (@ Parama, i'd like a link to 2 or 3 games on site that can support this scum tell please, if yuo are unable to provide such links than your 100% nonsense is horseshit)
2. he starts calling out lurkers or inactive posters to get the attention off himself
3. he starts asking people to explain why somebody is scum or town, wether they actually believe that person is or not. It is way to early in the game for me personally to have strong scum or town reads on anyone
4. he honestly advocates a policy lynch, which in my opinion is a horrible reason to lynch anyone (though this isn't a scumtell, it's just a stupidtell. policy lynches are lame)

off to work.

[Beck]

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

If my wagon is so good, why are you not on it?

[deselby]

I don't know if they are scum or not and I am not scum so if skins flips town, that will prove to be one of the most stupidist comment made thus far, but seeing it came from the person who has the wagon on them, i don't hold much water to it.

If you don't "hold much water" to a comment by someone with a wagon, why did you wagon them?
Also, I didn't like your comment about being bored and nearly leaving the game never to return.
Although not scummy I guess, your defence of your own sense of humour is a bit weird....
I do, however, agree somewhat with you about parama's percentages.....

@parama, why the certainty so early on?

[Beck]

@desel, I didn't wagon him cause of the comment, that comment came after my vote. My vote accomplished exactly what I wanted it to. Discussions. It also gave me more than what I was hoping for, reactions.


Where I play normally, im always the most active poster, I post 200 more posts than anyone else. But those games also move quicker and we never end the rvs style joking and we hold discussions about other things in the middle of the game.

Day 1 would already be over, day phases never last more than 5 RL days so for me this is boring, but the skill of players here are much better which is why I finally joined. I just have to adjust my expectations a bit.

If parama can support his percentage claim with evidence, than he may be on to something but to declare it 100% certainty is almost always an embelishment.

[deselby]

@desel, I didn't wagon him cause of the comment, that comment came after my vote. My vote accomplished exactly what I wanted it to. Discussions. It also gave me more than what I was hoping for, reactions.

Not quite what i meant. You say youwagonned parama to see reactions, then you disregard ("don't hold water to") his reaction, saying, in essence, that because he had a wagon, his reactions are not useful.

[CooLskins]

I'm really not liking Don's reaction to the Beck wagon. Saying that the wagon is good without voting is classic scum fence-sitting. It could be him trying to push a townie wagon without his vote being on it, or him offering vague support for a scumbud's wagon without him actuall pushing it. Either way it's super scummy.

FoS: Don

Not going to vote for him just yet, though, because CooLDoG likes the Beck wagon and I want to respect his opinion. Also, I want to see where this wagon's going...

-Bub

[bobsnox]

beck wagon is good. he has no sense of humor.

I have a great sense of humor

bob, I asked you a question, could you please answer.

#86? I don't understand the question. How were you putting attention on yourself?