Alright, going to attempt to do this chronoloigcally whenever I can however it'll likely turn out to be a mess of a wall.
Post #615 by AV, reads as overdefensive and deflectionary to a degree however the tone he used to explain it in
Post #618 reads as geninue and the suggestion of offering himself up as a lynch isn't something I believe he would attempt to do with this group of players as scum, overall feeling slightly better about him.
Gamma, in Jungle mafia you will notice a massive difference between Hez's initial play and his play as the game proceeds I would suggest reading the rest of it to understand the similarities between that game and this, furthermore his intial behaviour in that game proved to be unsuccesful and this was something he recognized so I believe it's entirely possible he's attempted to mould his play over the sections of that game which were productive. I would like for you to attempt to explain a few of your reads from
Post #639, what exactly has led you to believe that Gorilla and inHim are town? The open admittance in
Post #624 by Hez over having a lack of reads is odd given his previous attitude though, his reasoning behind it in
Post #626 however is reasonable. His updated reads list on day two in
Post #877 are something I share a lot of agreement with and his reluctance to decide a verdict on MoI and my allignments reads as geninue paranoia.
Not exactly a big fan of
Post #644 by Gorilla, it reads as an attempt to slide by while providing minimal content, his suspicion towards Magna and SpyreX at this point is something I'm unable to understand or grasp.
Post #663 by Swift reads as a strong town-tell, I've been in a decent amount of hydras before and the conversation log put forward reads as a legitimate geninue attempt to converse of the occurances of the game. Starting to see the town-read on inHim,
Post #673 I too believe the attempt to paint Hez as anti-town and damaging is completly incorrect and is being abused, when I get time later I'll re-read through the thread to find out how it started and spread. Also liking the vote and reasoning behind it in
Post #683.
SDC, mind explaining the town-read you stated you had on IS in
Post #678 because again, not seeing it.
Post #718 by Vi reads as an attempt to misrepresent Faraday, the motive behind faradays question of Gorilla and I should be highly evident, we've had copious amounts of experience playing together therefore hae strong meta knowledge and a better chance of reading each other. Gamma, can you explain
Post #851, I've attempted to read into the flavour and I'm unable to find what makes you believe it was the terrorists kill only (If I've missed it, it's probably a sign that I should head to bed soon.) I have to disagree with
Post #865 by LLD, I don't believe the kill leads towards Gorilla-SK, I know him well enough to know that he'd avoid any sort of night-kill speculation that could lead back towards him as a third party kind of role however I believe his unjustified overdefensiveness leads towards him being likely scum. With the exception of the SpyreX death being someone that SP would kill if he were a terrorist I'm not understanding the assumption or basis behind the accusation put forward by SDC earlier, reemphaised by MoI in
Post #878 and again by AV in
Post #879 which reeks of opportunistic voting.
I strongly dislike the attempted guilt tripping down in
Post #886 by Swift, no one stated that they planed on completly ignoring RC's beliefs nor did they imply they would therefore suggesting it reads as off. I also would like
Post #892 by Swift explained because personally I understand AV's worry over two scum-teams continual night-kills reducing the number of town players quite rapidly. Furthermore could you explain the concept you're attempting to push in
Post #906, how does the number of someones posts impact on their likelihood to be mafia and if you believe it does how come you've refrained from mentioning the fact that I have far less than 20 posts overall myself, ah don't worry that's mostly addressed as it continues. LLD sums up my place style fairly well in
Post #911 however I have a tendacy to be far more active than I have currently been this game, my inactivity was mostly related to univeristy exams taking place. Finally an apperance from CSL in
Post #943, what are your current reads of everyone in the game (I don't want to know Vi's opinions just yours) and to what degree have you been keeping up with the game while you were unable to post. With the exception of the Gorilla discussion I agree with the rest of
Post #960 by Hinduragi however I'm not understanding his reasoning behind viewing gorilla as a sub-optimal lynch, from brief inspection it looks like a 'he's too scummy to be scum' attempt at logic.
I'm unsure what to make of Gorillas soft-claim however my first instinct is it's a desperate attempt to shove attention elsewhere, I've generally seen him enjoy being a town power-role more than not. There's a lot of players that I haven't noticed or read into too much through my read which I'll need to do so very soon and would appreciate if no lynch was rushed until I got through this. With that said I'm not a particular fan of the AV wagon I believe some of his comments have been pulled out of context and misrepresented to attempt to strengthen the image of the case against him, nor am I a massive fan of the Hez-case, his actions read more as flailing-bad town than scum. I'm unsure what's caused Maguas sudden decrease of activity and influence in the game recently but I'm leaning towards it being related to real life occurances rather than his allignment. My town-read on Gamma and SDC have reduced substancially however I'm still very confident in Toog, Toasty, Mina, Ludi, Kats and now inHim being town. This is likely to move when I've got through a good second skim-read through as well as read some players ISO's however right now I'm comfortable with:
Vote: Gorilla
