Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Kinetic]

I am catching up [note to self page 59].

These questions will likely be answered as I read through, but for myself, at least:

DGB, why did you unvote yourself, and vote Ludi?

Kinetic, why are you talking? No one's listening.

Albert, why can DGB post and you can't?

More thoughts as I read.

So, you claim "no one is listening" to me, by addressing me..., and then call for Albert to comment when he hasn't.

Hmm, sounds like you have a preference.

Why?

[Nobody Special]

Oh, honey, don't be coy. You

know

why.

[Mr. Flay]

Fourth Vote Count of Day Two:

Cobblerfone - 6 (bvoigt, Flameaxe, xvart, Yosarian2, Lady Lambdadelta, Battousai)
DrippingGoofball - 4 (Porochaz, Magister Ludi, populartajo, ooba)
Magister Ludi - 3 (Bunnylover, DrippingGoofball, Seraphim)
Yosarian2 - 2 (Katsuki, Fritzler)
Battousai - 1 (Zdenek)
ThAdmiral - 2 (springlullaby)

Not Voting:

Andrius

Toasty Toast, Cobblerfone, Herodotus, Nobody Special, Tanarin, ThAdmiral

With 23 voters, it will take 12 to lynch.

Day Two will end no later than July 2nd.

[springlullaby]

@Kinetic

, why wouldn't you tell us how you found out DGB's PM? Does it matter really?

[Yosarian2]

i really dont think a faction could lose the game if we lynched right day 1,

thats a big assumption you are making there yosa.

(shrug) The game rules are pretty clear, tajo.

Okay, apparently I didn't do as good a job of explaining this game as I thought.

Your "mob lieutenants" are the Cult Recruiters in this game - but the twist is they're Tree Stumps - you can't lynch them directly, but neither can they vote. Find and deal with their recruits, and once you strip their faction of power, they'll lose (the so-called White Flag rule).

Someone asked me for more specifics about White Flag as it relates to this game. Here's what I'll tell you:

A Scum Faction (and only scum) will autolose when it has one player left alive. This is to help account for the Mob Lieutenants who are unlynchable of course, and to help refocus the game away from the problem of 'you not only have to find the recruits, you have to find the recruiter in the right order'. Those of you who read the first Succession Mafia will recall what happened there.

Obviously town has problems when they're down to one player, too, it just works a different way.

If there was only one recruit on day 1, and we lynched that person, then that faction is gone. Only assumption I'm making is that there was only 1 person recruited night zero.

[Yosarian2]

Cobber is not a recruit.

Yos, you're really stretching here - why would he announce this at D2 start given that he never may be called out on it? If I had lied to survive D1, I would just keep quiet about it as cult ..

Please, then, explain to me how he could possibly be telling the truth here. Explain to me how his story makes sense. I just don't see it.

pretty sure you have seen a lot of vis making stupid things that dont make sense, huh yosa?

In my experience, when someone has a stupid claim that doesn't make sense, they are almost always lying.

[Kinetic]

@Kinetic

, why wouldn't you tell us how you found out DGB's PM? Does it matter really?

I'm sorry, I think you forgot that I'm in no way beholden to you. You can't pressure me at all, you have nothing I want. I'm telling you what I'm telling you because it serves my purpose, and I'm not revealing anything more because that doesn't serve my purpose.

I've told the town who one of Albert's recruits is. If you fail to lynch the fuck out of her, its your own damn fault.

[Herodotus]

Explain to me how [cobblerfone's] story makes sense. I just don't see it.

I can give you a plausible explanation, but it would be speculation on his role PM, and I'm not sure that's pro-town, as if he's scum it would help him in fakeclaiming and if he's town it would take away from his own ability to claim.
It may be best if he simply claims so this stupid town can start voting for actual scum. Most likely, all but six players are currently voting for townies.

• Flameaxe
• Ooba
• Porochaz
• Populartajo

Oh, look at this! All four of the scum who haven't answered my question are voting for either Cobbler or DGb. Am I surprised?



We can vig DGb tonight if it's really necessary. During the day, though, let's lynch scum.

[Kinetic]

O, also, there is another scum group besides cult in this game, if you guys haven't figured it out yet. Additionally, one of its members gave it away. I'd point it out (again) but instead I'll just remind you guys and you can find him and kill him, kthx.

[Cobblerfone]

It may be best if he simply claims so this stupid town can start voting for actual scum.

I think I have six votes on me. If six others want me to claim I will. Still waiting for my suspect to post again.

O, also, there is another scum group besides cult in this game, if you guys haven't figured it out yet. Additionally, one of its members gave it away. I'd point it out (again) but instead I'll just remind you guys and you can find him and kill him, kthx.

You mean Ludi's obv-gambit?

[Herodotus]

It may be best if he simply claims so this stupid town can start voting for actual scum.

I think I have six votes on me. If six others want me to claim I will. Still waiting for my suspect to post again.

Maybe you don't need to claim.
I don't like the wagon on you, but I also don't want it to stagnate for a week. Remember the xvart wagon? Sheep just left their votes on him FOREVER, and did no scum hunting.

Who is your suspect, again?

[Cobblerfone]

If I say they might stop acting suspicious.

[springlullaby]

If I say they might stop acting suspicious.

... And you are waiting for what?

What ML obv-gambit were you talking about?

[Herodotus]

:headdesk:

:headwall: :headwall: :headwall:

:cries:

Is the person on my list, at least, or will I have to fight against yet another towntunnel?

@Spring: Someone asked someone else an offhand question about why they weren't discussing "the third faction" during D1. I think it was Magister asking DGb.

[Herodotus]

You're too shy to mention the fourth faction in this game I take it?

[Cobblerfone]

... And you are waiting for what?

To confirm my suspiciouns. It's only been a couple days since the phase started. I want to make sure they've truly started acting differently, since I think they're a N1 recruit.

Is the person on my list, at least, or will I have to fight against yet another towntunnel?

They're not on your list.

Heck if they are recruited my above reply might've tipped them off. Of course, if it's not them that actually might help us further if someone else suddenly starts trying to act like they did yesterday. I'll post who they are tomorrow if they haven't posted til then.

[Flameaxe]

If I say they might stop acting suspicious.

This post is completely, and utterly, terrible.

[Battousai]

Ludi- How is someone lying about their night action less likely to be scum than DGB? This just boggles my mind why you wouldn't come right out at Seraphim when you knew he was lying.

Also, you case that cobbler is town is laughable. He's too scummy to be scum basically. The fact that you seem not to take into consideration that he was scum and made a mistake is questionable, especially coupled with the whole going after DGB instead of someone you would "know" is lying.

[ooba]

Explain to me how [cobblerfone's] story makes sense. I just don't see it.

I can give you a plausible explanation, but it would be speculation on his role PM, and I'm not sure that's pro-town, as if he's scum it would help him in fakeclaiming and if he's town it would take away from his own ability to claim.
It may be best if he simply claims so this stupid town can start voting for actual scum. Most likely, all but six players are currently voting for townies.

• Flameaxe
• Ooba
• Porochaz
• Populartajo

Oh, look at this! All four of the scum who haven't answered my question are voting for either Cobbler or DGb. Am I surprised?



We can vig DGb tonight if it's really necessary. During the day, though, let's lynch scum.

A - You ask a question but aren't paying enough attention to whose answering or not ..
B - You want to lynch scum but you're currently not voting

[Cobblerfone]

If I say they might stop acting suspicious.

This post is completely, and utterly, terrible.

I need to wait to make sure they've truly changed behavior.

Ludi- How is someone lying about their night action less likely to be scum than DGB? This just boggles my mind why you wouldn't come right out at Seraphim when you knew he was lying.

Good catch. Better than my "lead".

VOTE: Ludi

Yes I realize the supposed irony.

[Herodotus]

@Ooba:
I thought you had answered, but couldn't find it. I see that you said porochaz.
That leaves flameaxe, porochaz, and populartajo.

[springlullaby]

@Ooba:
I thought you had answered, but couldn't find it. I see that you said porochaz.
That leaves flameaxe, porochaz, and populartajo.

Huh?
Leaves flame, poro and pop for what?

[DrippingGoofball]

@Kinetic

, why wouldn't you tell us how you found out DGB's PM? Does it matter really?

Jesus. Look at SL actually thinking Kinetic has got anything close to my role PM, or anything resembling a Flay role for that matter.

We need to policy lynch players like that.

[springlullaby]

[Yosarian2]

I'm going to policy lynch the next person who suggests a policy lynch.

Well, not really, but what part of "we have to lynch scum every day or we're screwed" is hard for people to understand here? We can't assume we'll necessarily have the normal 2-3 mislynches the town can always afford in a "normal" mafia game. For that matter, it's probably possible for town to lynch scum every day and still lose, if we get unlucky with other stuff.